Why are we targeting lebron?

[leeprettyp]

Nice to see you back Lee

Thank you Slava, happy to be back

[milesfides]

Lebron won't come in a trade because I don't think the Lakers will trade Ball or Ingram; timeline doesn't make sense for Lebron and a bunch of kids, so if the Lakers trade for Lebron, they've got to blow up the entire roster. And the other question is, who else can the lakers really get in trade, even if they expose Ball and Ingram? Truly elite players are hard to get, especially those that can beat the Warriors.

I want the Cavs to trade Kyrie Irving for Andrew Wiggins - how awkwardly awesome would it be to have Kevin Love and Wiggins on the same team?!

In many ways it would be a good trade. With Wiggins, the Cavs would match up better against the wing-heavy Warriors. Do they need a point guard? Sure. But they needed one with Irving anyways.

I think the Cavs will try to squeeze a point guard out of the trade, or move TT or another player for a decent, overpaid PG. or get Derrick Rose for free.

[Beethoven]

Cuz he's the self imposed king.

[Up-And-Coming]

Because he's still the best player in the world. Don't want to sound too harsh but why would we not want to sign the best player, even if he is towards the end of his career? What should we do instead? Sign a worse player because he's younger?

I don't really understand the hesitance to sign Lebron. Every team in the league would jump on the opportunity and it's something the Lakers should not think twice about. Putting my homer glasses aside, Lebron even just last season is better/more impactful than Kobe ever was.

[MAMBAEMD]

I would guess that if LBJ really wanted to come to LA and play with PG, that he'd not demand a max contract if the Lakers didn't have it available.
He'd take the most they have to offer but not having a max contract wouldn't be a deal breaker.
At that point, it wouldn't be about money for him any longer .
It'd be about him wanting to play with PG, Lonzo, Ingram, and the rest of this talented group.

[Sushisensei26]

Honestly I feel like the ugliest girl in school during prom season and would be happy if one of the jocks ask me to the dance. Even if I will never be prom queen and it will likely end with being felt up in the back of a Chevy at make out point, at least he pick us.

Awwwww.... You're not ugly TJ. You're not even the ugliest on real GM. cough.... slava..... cough cough....

No need for you to get felt up in the back seat just like there is no need for us to get Lebron.

[gts1]

I honestly have no idea why we would target LeBron.. as Slava pointed out he's just going to sign 1+1 contracts which is basically holding the franchise hostage...

It's screwed up Cleveland to the point you have a player of Kyrie's talent asking to get away from it all... He butted heads with Pat Riley over his entourage being accommodated. then after kowtowing to him for a few years he just walks with no heads up and leaves his supposed friends holding the bag. His style of play marginalizes everyone on the roster, his passive aggressive sniping at teammates when things don't go well just drives more wedges into the chemistry (and with this roster there's going to be lot's of bad times)

seriously the only positive I see from Lebron being a Laker is the comedy value of having Lavar Ball and Lebron trying to blame each other in the media circus after every loss.. The highly outspoken loud mouth who's son can do no wrong, who always blames Lonzos teammates vs the verbal sniper who's stabbing you in the back while he pats you on the head after a loss

[LakersSoul]

I honestly have no idea why we would target LeBron.. as Slava pointed out he's just going to sign 1+1 contracts which is basically holding the franchise hostage...

It's screwed up Cleveland to the point you have a player of Kyrie's talent asking to get away from it all... He butted heads with Pat Riley over his entourage being accommodated. then after kowtowing to him for a few years he just walks with no heads up and leaves his supposed friends holding the bag. His style of play marginalizes everyone on the roster, his passive aggressive sniping at teammates when things don't go well just drives more wedges into the chemistry (and with this roster there's going to be lot's of bad times)

seriously the only positive I see from Lebron being a Laker is the comedy value of having Lavar Ball and Lebron trying to blame each other in the media circus after every loss.. The highly outspoken loud mouth who's son can do no wrong, who always blames Lonzos teammates vs the verbal sniper who's stabbing you in the back while he pats you on the head after a loss

I expect Lebron to either stay in Cleveland or change team 1 last time. I doubt Lebron wants to leave a legacy as a journeyman of sort. Whichever team Lebron signs with next summer, that could be the team he retires with.

As Lebron will turn 34 next year and since he likes 1+1s, the Lakers have to stay smart and not trade away Ball or Ingram in any situation. Lebron does not have Kobe's history with Lakers. We owe nothing to him. Lebron will have to decide if he wants MAX money in LA, if he comes, or take less and have a third superstar join the team to win championships.

[Goudelock]

Lebrons a great great player. He's also a terrible GM. Hopefully he comes to LA and lets the FO do their thing, besides a couple token vet min ring chase signings to appease Lebron (like Wade).

The sight of Wade in a Lakers jersey would make me sick

[leeprettyp]

Word is this is all LBJ and his camp who leaked this Kyrie stuff. A bunch of unnecessary drama. Lookup the "wackstar" on Instagram, thats Kyrie friend. And we really want to bring this kinda of drama here around what we trying to build back up?

[Michael Lucky]

There is merit to the OPs argument if and only if Lebron decided to sign a long term contract here. And here lies the problem, we're a long term project to win a championship. We can't be GSW with 34 year old Lebron.

[leeprettyp]

you guys would want to give full 4 year max to a +33 year old LBJ? I'm just asking, interested to see the answers to this

[gts1]

I honestly have no idea why we would target LeBron.. as Slava pointed out he's just going to sign 1+1 contracts which is basically holding the franchise hostage...

It's screwed up Cleveland to the point you have a player of Kyrie's talent asking to get away from it all... He butted heads with Pat Riley over his entourage being accommodated. then after kowtowing to him for a few years he just walks with no heads up and leaves his supposed friends holding the bag. His style of play marginalizes everyone on the roster, his passive aggressive sniping at teammates when things don't go well just drives more wedges into the chemistry (and with this roster there's going to be lot's of bad times)

seriously the only positive I see from Lebron being a Laker is the comedy value of having Lavar Ball and Lebron trying to blame each other in the media circus after every loss.. The highly outspoken loud mouth who's son can do no wrong, who always blames Lonzos teammates vs the verbal sniper who's stabbing you in the back while he pats you on the head after a loss

I expect Lebron to either stay in Cleveland or change team 1 last time. I doubt Lebron wants to leave a legacy as a journeyman of sort. Whichever team Lebron signs with next summer, that could be the team he retires with.

As Lebron will turn 34 next year and since he likes 1+1s, the Lakers have to stay smart and not trade away Ball or Ingram in any situation. Lebron does not have Kobe's history with Lakers. We owe nothing to him. Lebron will have to decide if he wants MAX money in LA, if he comes, or take less and have a third superstar join the team to win championships.

With Lebrons history of leaving teams in the lurch, what superstar is going to come to LA when the other superstar won't commit other than a 1+1?

Remember not one not two not three not four? It turned out to be 2 and I'm outta here, or the classic, I'm not leaving until I bring a championship to Cleveland turned into I'm taking my talents to South Beach one year later.. you know who remembers? other players remember, their agents remember...

If George and Westbrook have a good season in OKC, look like a lock to make the WCFs with a shot at the Warriors for the next few years you think either of their agents is going to steer them to LA with it's rebuilding mode roster plus LeBron on a 1+1 and his history of leaving

[Tee212]

i want to vomit seeing him in a laker jersey

[gts1]

you guys would want to give full 4 year max to a +33 year old LBJ? I'm just asking, interested to see the answers to this

3 with a team option on the 4th? he'd be 37 in the final year he has a ton of miles on those legs, we've seen him slow down the last season.. obviously he's still the best in the league and a physical specimen rarely seen in any sport but the talent margin has narrowed and he's getting into that age where even healthy players can start having issues..

Of all the big name difference makers level plays in the league he's number one at 41 thousand regular season minutes plus another 9 thousand in the playoffs, a combined 50k minutes played...

next big star name on the list that isn't well past his prime that's even close to Lebron is CP3 at 29 thousand minutes regular season and 2800 playoffs

[SlimShady83]

He'll sign for one year ... We don't win champion ... Then he'll want out to go jump ship again and again

Do we really want that???

FOOK NO!

[XXBKXX]

Even if Lebron comes here, he won't commit to anything more than a 1+1 max deal so he has an out if this doesn't work out. At that point we'd be stupid to even be debating if we should go for Lebron. He's still the best player on the planet.

I don't know if that's true for a 34 year old Bron. I'd be much more willing to give Bron that kind of money if it was a short term deal. But at 34, I think LeBron will be finally seeking a longer term contract to protect himself into his late thirties.

This is where the wheels come off the tracks for me. There's no way we should commit long term max money for a 34 yo player. We did the same thing with Nash -- how did that work out ? Bron is going to start falling apart and getting injured.. If Bron comes here next summer -- he will be the same age that Kobe was when he ruptures his Achilles... Remember.. before that injury.. Kobe also took great care of his body and was in excellent shape.. injuries happens to older players ...

With that. If Bron really wants to be in LA to get his businesses going... Then he should come here on a big discount... 10m per for 3 years with third year a team option.. otherwise he can go play for the slippers if he so desperately wants to play in LA..

BK
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Lakers / Angels / Dolphins

[Texas_Lakers]

We finally have something good going and this s#%t comes around to screw it up, are we really that freaking cursed?


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[leeprettyp]

I'm just happy to see I'm not on the "Don't want Lbj on the Lakers" island by myself. I'm only fine with it if we sign him and he understands its about the name on the front of the jersey (doesnt seem likely). Also, we not cashing out Lonzo and Ingram for win now players.

LBJ just hopped on his IG taking subliminal shots at Kyrie. Lol i ask again. For an aging superstar, do we as Lakers fans want to ignore the obvious red flags here? If he was still 28 years old thats a different story. He's already regressing on the defensive end.

I'm 40% Yes and 60% no on signing him here. Because at this point its obvious the drama that comes with it. I'm actually okay with this 2018 plan

1) Resigning Randle
2) Making a serious play for 2 of these 3 - Boogie, PG and/or Russ (If he doesn't sign the DPE)
3) And filling out the rest of the roster with older ring chasing vets. I think we have enough ascending youth who're talented
4) Maybe even resigning KCP if he has a solid year and we only get 1 of the above big name free agents.

I'm all for letting this young core grow. I'm just that high on what Lonzo Ball brings to this franchise and also the high ceiling of Ingram as well.

[leeprettyp]

you guys would want to give full 4 year max to a +33 year old LBJ? I'm just asking, interested to see the answers to this

3 with a team option on the 4th? he'd be 37 in the final year he has a ton of miles on those legs, we've seen him slow down the last season.. obviously he's still the best in the league and a physical specimen rarely seen in any sport but the talent margin has narrowed and he's getting into that age where even healthy players can start having issues..

Of all the big name difference makers level plays in the league he's number one at 41 thousand regular season minutes plus another 9 thousand in the playoffs, a combined 49k minutes played...

next big star name on the list that isn't well past his prime that's even close to Lebron is CP3 at 29 thousand minutes regular season and 2800 playoffs

Remember he and CP3 made sure that new 33 year old contract rule was put in place this CBA. They both cashing out next off-season.