Brandon Ingram workout

[LAKESHOW]

Nice to see our youth workin hard during the offseason

[kblo247]

Defensively, sure, he'll never be as strong as Leonard but he'll be a different type of defender that can put his length to use. He covers ground, Leonard is physical. Leonard's best asset is his lower body strength.. well it used to be till he got injured...

Ingram is so far ahead of him offensively that I don't even need to go into detail. He's already a better passer, playmaker, and ball handler. Ingram at age 20 is way ahead of KL at 20, again, not even close.

Oh I know he will score better. Coming out of college I thought Ingram had the ability to be Sonics Rashard Lewis and score naturally when he’s comfortable. The passing he’s done under Luke was a nice surprise. I would say he’s an average passer, above average scorer for his spot, and okay defender.

I think the thing is Kawhi does something great, not very good but great. He is a great defender with instincts you can’t really teach on and off the ball. He’s got what guys like Artest, Pippen, Payton had in them nightly mindset wise.

I even get the idea that Ingram and Kuzma both could start next to Lebron and George and learn from them, improving them immensely. I just don’t think either of them has top 5 player in the league potential, which Kawhi can make a claim to being before. I think Ingram as long as he stays healthy can steadily be a top 15-20 player and that Kuzma can be a top 10-15 guy. That’s just me though as I see more in Kuzma than Ingram

Maybe Ingram can learn from guys like Marion or Tayshaun Prince though and use that length to his advantage though.

In the comparison between Ingram and Kuz, I would simply refer them to different stage of Kobe, development wise, who actually improve year by year until the Achilles injury.

Kuzma is more of 2003 / 2004 stage of Kobe (just over the most vigorous development period, with fine techniques with matured body, getting stronger, trying to add 1-2more skills every season)
Ingram is more of a 2000 / 2001 Kobe (play with natural talent, immature body, seems to play with ease on court, refining his skills in all aspects)

Many player stopped their development in Kuz's current stage. When their body matured, they are what they look like. Kobe and James is quite exceptional in this regards where they improve continuously and adding weapons to their arsenal. Other notable names are Griffin and Kidd who added a respectable jump shot in the later part of their career. (Yes, to me, shooting, in a certain degree, may be one of the easiest technique/skill to master ). Can Kuz do the same ? Time will tell. That's why, I have larger hope on Ingram's development and what he can be when he physically matured. Looking like he will make a leap soon.

I think I see more skill in Kuzma overall like the little hooks, shorting from different spots, jumping off one or two feet at a time, fakes, etc.

I worry less about Ingram’s frame now that I used too, but he’s not smooth. KD at that size was always fluid and smooth with the ball. Ingram is a little clunky and clumsy putting it on the floor but it works. I don’t really see KD or Greek Freak in him skillset wise, but I do think he can get you 20 a night, shoot off the dribble, and play some small ball 4. He just always reminded me of Lewis before he went to Orlando and became a full time 4

[zuju]

Oh I know he will score better. Coming out of college I thought Ingram had the ability to be Sonics Rashard Lewis and score naturally when he’s comfortable. The passing he’s done under Luke was a nice surprise. I would say he’s an average passer, above average scorer for his spot, and okay defender.

I think the thing is Kawhi does something great, not very good but great. He is a great defender with instincts you can’t really teach on and off the ball. He’s got what guys like Artest, Pippen, Payton had in them nightly mindset wise.

I even get the idea that Ingram and Kuzma both could start next to Lebron and George and learn from them, improving them immensely. I just don’t think either of them has top 5 player in the league potential, which Kawhi can make a claim to being before. I think Ingram as long as he stays healthy can steadily be a top 15-20 player and that Kuzma can be a top 10-15 guy. That’s just me though as I see more in Kuzma than Ingram

Maybe Ingram can learn from guys like Marion or Tayshaun Prince though and use that length to his advantage though.

In the comparison between Ingram and Kuz, I would simply refer them to different stage of Kobe, development wise, who actually improve year by year until the Achilles injury.

Kuzma is more of 2003 / 2004 stage of Kobe (just over the most vigorous development period, with fine techniques with matured body, getting stronger, trying to add 1-2more skills every season)
Ingram is more of a 2000 / 2001 Kobe (play with natural talent, immature body, seems to play with ease on court, refining his skills in all aspects)

Many player stopped their development in Kuz's current stage. When their body matured, they are what they look like. Kobe and James is quite exceptional in this regards where they improve continuously and adding weapons to their arsenal. Other notable names are Griffin and Kidd who added a respectable jump shot in the later part of their career. (Yes, to me, shooting, in a certain degree, may be one of the easiest technique/skill to master ). Can Kuz do the same ? Time will tell. That's why, I have larger hope on Ingram's development and what he can be when he physically matured. Looking like he will make a leap soon.

I think I see more skill in Kuzma overall like the little hooks, shorting from different spots, jumping off one or two feet at a time, fakes, etc.

I worry less about Ingram’s frame now that I used too, but he’s not smooth. KD at that size was always fluid and smooth with the ball. Ingram is a little clunky and clumsy putting it on the floor but it works. I don’t really see KD or Greek Freak in him skillset wise, but I do think he can get you 20 a night, shoot off the dribble, and play some small ball 4. He just always reminded me of Lewis before he went to Orlando and became a full time 4

That's why ppl hold different opinions on trading Ingram, we see differently & diversely on his potential.
I see him as a premium Iguodala , a great player achieving a level in between KD and PG. His legs were heavy when he first arrived LAL. Last season, his handle was tightened and his feet is much lighter. He drives at will, make the correct plays, decent to good defense. Very much similar to the trajectory of 2nd or 3rd year kobe. Hugh improvement within a very short period of time.
You see him as Rashard Lewis, good player but not great player in his peak.
Again, time will tell.

[-Spyda-]

Trade him for star player.
BI is a good player but he will never be a suprstar.
Facts.

[Slava]

Its called an opinion, not facts.

[Kilroy]

The only reason to trade Ingram IMO is if you know you're going to get PG, LeBron, and Kawhi, and you need to move him to get Deng off the books to make it all work... Otherwise Ingram's virtually untouchable...
It's not about Ingram not being a great young talent, it's about there being little or no room for him in that lineup.

[iamworthy]

You also have to factor in his extension. Even if you got two of the three max players, Brandon will be up for a extension in a couple of years. That's a decision they will have to make

[Slava]

His extension would still start lesser than a veteran max offer sheet.

[iamworthy]

His extension would still start lesser than a veteran max offer sheet.

He can get paid what Wiggins got right?

[Slava]

His extension would still start lesser than a veteran max offer sheet.

He can get paid what Wiggins got right?

Yeah but PG or kawhi's max starts at $30 mil+ and then 4.5% increases each subsequent year.

Anyways if Ingram becomes a max worthy player this argument would be moot.

[AGAVE]

I think I'd like to see how BI plays around better players.
Thinking this over, LBJ, KL, & PG would crowd/reduce some of his freedom to roam.
Never the less, it works up at GSW

[stan francisco]

If I were LBJ, I’d want to play with these kids.

Ball
Ingram
Kuzma
LBJ
Randle

[NBAWestFan]

Like to see them keep Ball, Kuzma, Ingram and Hart.

We were bad for so long and waited and waited for all the drafts. So yeah I could see trading Russell but now there is no need to trade these guys when free agents can come without trading. Just adding the right players will make this team a lot better.

I think a good Center would be key
and maybe just adding a Cousins and better role players will be key

[Mamba Mentality]

He'll be better than Kawhi real soon.

You better not make that statement on the gb. People jumped my ass when I made that statement a couple weeks ago...

[Slink]

Watch on YouTube

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[Michael Lucky]

Watch on YouTube

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It's from the same workout. It's nothing new.

[madmaxmedia]

Sadly, I think the lack of muscle is just genetic...he can probably hit the weights all he wants, but the bulk might be minimal...just like KD....KD got a little bulkier as compared to his first few seasons, but I mean, he's still a twig....and Ingram looks even thinner than a rookie KD.....the good thing is that he can still finish around the rim.

He can still be wiry strong with a dedicated workout program, which may suit him better than bulk anyway.

[Slink]

So James thinks that BI can be his Scottie Pippen?

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/lebron-james-brandon-ingram-scottie-pippen-role-los-angels-lakers-video/

With that in mind, James doesn’t have any stated expectations for this squad, even while refusing to acknowledge that his considerable prime might be coming to an end in the near future. Part of that reserved optimism could apparently come from the presence of Brandon Ingram, at least according to Chris Broussard of FOX Sports.

On the air this week, Broussard indicated that “people close to LeBron” believe that Ingram could eventually play a “Scottie Pippen role” with the Lakers.
As Broussard acknowledges, this feels a bit lofty for Ingram, even while pointing to his considerable talent. It is always wise to keep one’s guard up when referencing sources close to individual players but Ingram does boast some point forward skills and his considerable length opens doors to a potentially devastating floor game.

[Dr Aki]

Well I'm glad LeBron didn't try to trade the kids, particularly as I thought George was a lock and that we would no longer have room to grab another max FA

LeBron's eased a lot of anxiety I had over his window with the Rachel Nichols interview

[Slava]

Frye was doing his podcast with Richard Jefferson and Dave McMenamin and said some stuff on his tenure with the Lakers and LeBron that I thought was interesting.

He said the Lakers young guys were as talented as they come but they workout just enough to get by on their talent and its going to be a shock in how much they have to step up to keep up with LeBron even at his age. Kuz apparently used to text Frye and IT a lot asking how he was doing and how to improve. Both Frye and IT would tell him that the key to him is consistency and its not just work today and let go for a few days but he has to put in work consistently everyday to reach the levels he wants to reach.