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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

Post#23 » by Kilroy » Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:24 am

JJ Reddick is not going to miracle this team to a finals, so with that out of the way, sure why not?

Maybe he'll build a culture of commitment to both ends of the floor here, and we'll at least not give as many games away... But the reality is, we're short on talent, with no clear path to improve there... So coaching hires are meh...
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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

Post#24 » by Landsberger » Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:00 pm

Kilroy wrote:JJ Reddick is not going to miracle this team to a finals, so with that out of the way, sure why not?

Maybe he'll build a culture of commitment to both ends of the floor here, and we'll at least not give as many games away... But the reality is, we're short on talent, with no clear path to improve there... So coaching hires are meh...


Very short on talent and the money we have tied up is in a waining star, a overrated "star" who''s injury prone and a player that somehow has tricked the league into paying him over $180M for playing a game he's not very good at.

Then there are the fodder around them. For 50 years the Laker fans have loved the barely NBA level people we've put around our stars. Overrated them to the moon in the process.

A new coach Isn't going to do much of anything the last couple haven't.

The fall to the bottom will be slowed... and Ownership seems intent on pushing the bottom even lower with each trade for a near washed former star. But hey, it keeps the Buss family in their homes.
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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

Post#25 » by stan francisco » Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:48 pm

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Kilroy wrote:JJ Reddick is not going to miracle this team to a finals, so with that out of the way, sure why not?

Maybe he'll build a culture of commitment to both ends of the floor here, and we'll at least not give as many games away... But the reality is, we're short on talent, with no clear path to improve there... So coaching hires are meh...


Very short on talent and the money we have tied up is in a waining star, a overrated "star" who''s injury prone and a player that somehow has tricked the league into paying him over $180M for playing a game he's not very good at.

Then there are the fodder around them. For 50 years the Laker fans have loved the barely NBA level people we've put around our stars. Overrated them to the moon in the process.

A new coach Isn't going to do much of anything the last couple haven't.

The fall to the bottom will be slowed... and Ownership seems intent on pushing the bottom even lower with each trade for a near washed former star. But hey, it keeps the Buss family in their homes.


That’s quite the negative outlook. I think a coach with his hands in his pockets saying ‘next play mentality’ is not a coach. A good coach maximizes their players’ talent.

We have a historically great low post defender in AD. His offense is elite, too (see bubble 2020).

JV is a great defender on level with Artest and Ariza, if he can stay healthy which nobody knows if he can.

Christie deserved a starting role last season based on his defense alone.

JHS at 6’6”was good enough to start last season, too.

I have very high hopes for Lewis.

LeBron is a great defender when he wants to be, but since he’s 489 years old we can’t expect that during regular season x 82.

Reaves needs to get stronger in his lower body.

We need an anchor at C so that AD can guard PFs, be more of a helper instead of playing low post defense for three players like last two seasons.

A coach can change all that, indeed. PJ could and would have changed so many things player role related over the last two years. I hope Reddick can get it together and keep it together.
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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

Post#26 » by Landsberger » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:50 am

stan francisco wrote:That’s quite the negative outlook.


I'll log this one away and we'll talk this time next year.
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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

Post#27 » by LakersSoul » Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:21 pm

stan francisco wrote:
Landsberger wrote:
Kilroy wrote:.


That’s quite the negative outlook. I think a coach with his hands in his pockets saying ‘next play mentality’ is not a coach. A good coach maximizes their players’ talent.

We have a historically great low post defender in AD. His offense is elite, too (see bubble 2020).

JV is a great defender on level with Artest and Ariza, if he can stay healthy which nobody knows if he can.

Christie deserved a starting role last season based on his defense alone.

JHS at 6’6”was good enough to start last season, too.

I have very high hopes for Lewis.

LeBron is a great defender when he wants to be, but since he’s 489 years old we can’t expect that during regular season x 82.

Reaves needs to get stronger in his lower body.

We need an anchor at C so that AD can guard PFs, be more of a helper instead of playing low post defense for three players like last two seasons.

A coach can change all that, indeed. PJ could and would have changed so many things player role related over the last two years. I hope Reddick can get it together and keep it together.


I agree with most of your takes except not sure about JHS. Think it was a bad pick because not sure he can play defense. And Lewis still still WIP.

I agree about Vando and 1000% on Max!

I agree on AD’s role esp against Denver which would have prevented easy baskets esp by Gordon and would have dominated the board. Hoping we draft Holmes or edey. Holmes can be our stretch big like Naz/PJ Washington. Edey would give us flexibility to put AD at PF against Denver-esq teams.

We made the right move by removing next player mentality and hand-in-pocket coach and adding JJ which to me is no risk at all, over of no vision rethread coaches. He needs to max the talent and get guys like Bron less minutes (20s) and have him more off-ball.

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Post#28 » by TylersLakers » Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:07 pm

Glad it’s official. Now we need a good staff. My dream is:

HC Redick
Vet Lead Assistant: Stan Van Gundy or Alvin Gentry
Assistant Coach: Jared Dudley
Assistant Coach: Phil Handy

Assistant Coach: Jay Triano
Assistant Coach: Scott Brooks
Assistant Coach: Rajon Rondo
Assistant Coach: JJ’s Choice - I’m sure he has a guy he wants to get a job.
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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

Post#29 » by Ball so hard » Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:45 pm

stan francisco wrote:
Landsberger wrote:
Kilroy wrote:JJ Reddick is not going to miracle this team to a finals, so with that out of the way, sure why not?

Maybe he'll build a culture of commitment to both ends of the floor here, and we'll at least not give as many games away... But the reality is, we're short on talent, with no clear path to improve there... So coaching hires are meh...


Very short on talent and the money we have tied up is in a waining star, a overrated "star" who''s injury prone and a player that somehow has tricked the league into paying him over $180M for playing a game he's not very good at.

Then there are the fodder around them. For 50 years the Laker fans have loved the barely NBA level people we've put around our stars. Overrated them to the moon in the process.

A new coach Isn't going to do much of anything the last couple haven't.

The fall to the bottom will be slowed... and Ownership seems intent on pushing the bottom even lower with each trade for a near washed former star. But hey, it keeps the Buss family in their homes.


That’s quite the negative outlook. I think a coach with his hands in his pockets saying ‘next play mentality’ is not a coach. A good coach maximizes their players’ talent.

We have a historically great low post defender in AD. His offense is elite, too (see bubble 2020).

JV is a great defender on level with Artest and Ariza, if he can stay healthy which nobody knows if he can.

Christie deserved a starting role last season based on his defense alone.

JHS at 6’6”was good enough to start last season, too.

I have very high hopes for Lewis.

LeBron is a great defender when he wants to be, but since he’s 489 years old we can’t expect that during regular season x 82.

Reaves needs to get stronger in his lower body.

We need an anchor at C so that AD can guard PFs, be more of a helper instead of playing low post defense for three players like last two seasons.

A coach can change all that, indeed. PJ could and would have changed so many things player role related over the last two years. I hope Reddick can get it together and keep it together.


Would love some of that kool-aid you’re drinking. AD’s offense is elite… then goes on to site 2020, almost 5 years ago. Lebron hasn’t been a great defender since his Miami days. 95 percent of the season Bron is essentially a traffic cone.

Even on his best day Vanderbilt is nowhere near the defender Artest was.

Also not sure what you mean by Reeves needs to get stronger in his lower body, as if doing so would turn him into a good defender.

It would take an all time great coach to get this team to the next level.
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Re: OFFICIAL: JJ Reddick new lakers coach 

Post#30 » by tamaraw08 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:07 pm

stan francisco wrote:
Landsberger wrote:
Kilroy wrote:JJ Reddick is not going to miracle this team to a finals, so with that out of the way, sure why not?

Maybe he'll build a culture of commitment to both ends of the floor here, and we'll at least not give as many games away... But the reality is, we're short on talent, with no clear path to improve there... So coaching hires are meh...


Very short on talent and the money we have tied up is in a waining star, a overrated "star" who''s injury prone and a player that somehow has tricked the league into paying him over $180M for playing a game he's not very good at.

Then there are the fodder around them. For 50 years the Laker fans have loved the barely NBA level people we've put around our stars. Overrated them to the moon in the process.

A new coach Isn't going to do much of anything the last couple haven't.

The fall to the bottom will be slowed... and Ownership seems intent on pushing the bottom even lower with each trade for a near washed former star. But hey, it keeps the Buss family in their homes.


That’s quite the negative outlook. I think a coach with his hands in his pockets saying ‘next play mentality’ is not a coach. A good coach maximizes their players’ talent.

We have a historically great low post defender in AD. His offense is elite, too (see bubble 2020).

JV is a great defender on level with Artest and Ariza, if he can stay healthy which nobody knows if he can.

Christie deserved a starting role last season based on his defense alone.

JHS at 6’6”was good enough to start last season, too.

I have very high hopes for Lewis.

LeBron is a great defender when he wants to be, but since he’s 489 years old we can’t expect that during regular season x 82.

Reaves needs to get stronger in his lower body.

We need an anchor at C so that AD can guard PFs, be more of a helper instead of playing low post defense for three players like last two seasons.

A coach can change all that, indeed. PJ could and would have changed so many things player role related over the last two years. I hope Reddick can get it together and keep it together.


I agree with most of what you said.. except about JHS and I hope you're right about him.
Lewis might need another year to develop his body and mind.
My biggest concern is that both James and AD are planning to play in the Olympics and that might mean that they won't be able to fully rest and heal before the start of the season=possible 10-20 missed RS games.
I can see JJ being eager to implement a ton of his fresh ideas and I'm hoping Rob could find that veteran assistant who could help weed out which schemes would work or not. Most strategies have been drawn before and Pat Riley revealed from his book that Bertka pointed that out when Riles really thought that just invented a new Set play.
JJ can hopefully teach Rui how not to be a weak link on defense while helping tweak the shot of Vando. If not hopefully they can trade both for player/S who can both shoot and play defense.
James would need to recruit because they really don't have much cap room to acquire the best free agents. A healthy CP3 might be able to help execute esp in the critical 4th quarters if he can play 16 quality mins/game.
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Post#31 » by tamaraw08 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:15 pm

TylersLakers wrote:Glad it’s official. Now we need a good staff. My dream is:

HC Redick
Vet Lead Assistant: Stan Van Gundy or Alvin Gentry
Assistant Coach: Jared Dudley
Assistant Coach: Phil Handy

Assistant Coach: Jay Triano
Assistant Coach: Scott Brooks
Assistant Coach: Rajon Rondo
Assistant Coach: JJ’s Choice - I’m sure he has a guy he wants to get a job.


I cringe at the thought that Jeannie might put a cap on how much they can spend on these prospects. Ramona Shellburne revealed before that Rob wanted Scott Brooks but the former OKC coach said their offer was less than half of what Portland was offering before. :roll:
I really like SVG and not a fan of Gentry. If not, Brooks is a good option.
Dudley can help bridge the gap between a very intellectual JJ and some of the players who may not fully grasp the intricacies of Redick's schemes and language.
They shouldn't have fired Handy because he could have done a lot of wonders on the development of JHS and Lewis right now.
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Post#32 » by stan francisco » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:37 pm

Landsberger wrote:
stan francisco wrote:That’s quite the negative outlook.


I'll log this one away and we'll talk this time next year.


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Post#33 » by danfantastk32 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:53 am

Ball so hard wrote: Would love some of that kool-aid you’re drinking. AD’s offense is elite… then goes on to site 2020, almost 5 years ago. Lebron hasn’t been a great defender since his Miami days. 95 percent of the season Bron is essentially a traffic cone.

Even on his best day Vanderbilt is nowhere near the defender Artest was.

Also not sure what you mean by Reeves needs to get stronger in his lower body, as if doing so would turn him into a good defender.

It would take an all time great coach to get this team to the next level.


Harsh....but someone had to say it. I'll add to it: It would take an all-time great coach....at least a couple well placed roll players, and nice slab of good injury luck to get this team to the next level.

I think some of us forget what we used to be. So many guys get talked up like they are elite at this, and elite at that....when they're passable...decent at best.
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Post#34 » by Dr Aki » Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:26 am

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Post#36 » by BEazy » Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:25 am

Not buying it. A TV personality saying all the right things at a press conference? Really? Lol... I'm waiting for one specific event to see if this guy is legit. Once injuries and losses start happening, I want to see how he adjusts. That will show if he's the real deal or not. Personally, I'm not convinced yet.
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Post#37 » by LakersSoul » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:14 am

JJ killed it!

JJ might be a TV personality but you know he speaks his mind. Said all the right things and to me meant them.

Feels good to not have the same ole **** from Ham.

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Post#38 » by danfantastk32 » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:18 am

BEazy wrote:Not buying it. A TV personality saying all the right things at a press conference? Really? Lol... I'm waiting for one specific event to see if this guy is legit. Once injuries and losses start happening, I want to see how he adjusts. That will show if he's the real deal or not. Personally, I'm not convinced yet.


I will give him his just respect, in that he was a player, not just some nucklehead from TV that showed up. Or, some player from the 90's or something. He understands a hell of alot about the trenches. The locker room, the personalities...a million things. I want the Lakers to get out of this swamp as much as the next fan...so I'm rooting for him. But anyone who says anything but ??? is lying.

People like to mock Hamm's "Next man up" view.....but seem fine with the FO doing it. Even if this goes amazing, and he's turns into the next Phil...and 8 titles later we're molding statues, it still doesn't change the fact that this was just flinging sh** at the wall from our inept FO. They interviewed him.....then broke course and went after Hurley. That won't ever change. So this is just the FO flinging....and there's little reason to be enthused by that.
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Post#40 » by Landsberger » Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:16 am

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Ball so hard wrote: Would love some of that kool-aid you’re drinking. AD’s offense is elite… then goes on to site 2020, almost 5 years ago. Lebron hasn’t been a great defender since his Miami days. 95 percent of the season Bron is essentially a traffic cone.

Even on his best day Vanderbilt is nowhere near the defender Artest was.

Also not sure what you mean by Reeves needs to get stronger in his lower body, as if doing so would turn him into a good defender.

It would take an all time great coach to get this team to the next level.


Harsh....but someone had to say it. I'll add to it: It would take an all-time great coach....at least a couple well placed roll players, and nice slab of good injury luck to get this team to the next level.

I think some of us forget what we used to be. So many guys get talked up like they are elite at this, and elite at that....when they're passable...decent at best.


Elite is what I call an "ESPN" word... it's one of these words the talking heads use to get reactions from other talking heads on the endless series of talking head shows... I haven't purposefully watched 5 minutes of that crap in over 20 years. I get subjected to it when I'm in a sports bar between games.

Making this team better is one thing... making it a contender is another. Unless Reddick is reversing time this isn't possible with the two elephants in the room. The focus is on the fodder around them when the problem is the two of them. They just aren't good enough to dominate the possessions yet their position/pay/fandom will ensure they do.

Every team goes through it. Some recognize and sell early to try and close the gap between times of contention. For some reason our leadership fails to recognize it... could be greed... could be hubris... could be that they just aren't that worried about the fan base because they will get paid either way.

Stay tuned for a CP3 acquisition of some sort... that will put us over the top and make us an "Elite" team again.

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