Future starting SF for Lakers

[stan francisco]

Knecht showed great promise in SL. Unlike rookie Jaime last year, I don’t think he’ll contribute substantially in his own year one. The soft defense would make Knecht a target in the playoffs, like D Lo is. I see Knecht as a bench weapon competing for minutes on the wing against LBJ, Christie, Vando, Rui, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis.

I’d like to see this starting line-up

PG: JHS / D Lo / Vincent
SG: AR / Knecht / Hinson / Lewis
SF: Christie / Vando / Reddish
PF: LBJ / Rui / Traoré / Castleton
C: AD / Hayes / Wood

Vando starting at SF is fine, too. Christie and JHS are both ready. Besides a bit of early season patience, it’s about defense, brains, shot making, play making. Both have what’s needed if we just trust them with minutes early on.

[LakersSoul]

The lineup has to cover defensively for LeBron, so you can’t just focus on scoring… Vando at least used to be a solid man defender, when he was healthy…. I’d lean that way right now but who knows what will happen with JJ and some time…

Yeah, if Vando shoots at a decent clip , say 36%, then the defense will have to respect him.

Vando’s energy and D is top notch so hope the practices have helped, esp at corner 3.

Last year Vando shot 35% from the corners, but only attempted about 1 corner 3 per game.

Vando gets open 3s.
He needs to shoot more and have confidence in it!

[LakersSoul]

Knecht showed great promise in SL. Unlike rookie Jaime last year, I don’t think he’ll contribute substantially in his own year one. The soft defense would make Knecht a target in the playoffs, like D Lo is. I see Knecht as a bench weapon competing for minutes on the wing against LBJ, Christie, Vando, Rui, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis.

I’d like to see this starting line-up

PG: JHS / D Lo / Vincent
SG: AR / Knecht / Hinson / Lewis
SF: Christie / Vando / Reddish
PF: LBJ / Rui / Traoré / Castleton
C: AD / Hayes / Wood

Vando starting at SF is fine, too. Christie and JHS are both ready. Besides a bit of early season patience, it’s about defense, brains, shot making, play making. Both have what’s needed if we just trust them with minutes early on.

Cannot compare Knecht to Dlo.

Knecht is longer and much more athletic and wants to excel on defense. Dlo is Slo!

[Godfather13]

Knecht showed great promise in SL. Unlike rookie Jaime last year, I don’t think he’ll contribute substantially in his own year one. The soft defense would make Knecht a target in the playoffs, like D Lo is. I see Knecht as a bench weapon competing for minutes on the wing against LBJ, Christie, Vando, Rui, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis.

I’d like to see this starting line-up

PG: JHS / D Lo / Vincent
SG: AR / Knecht / Hinson / Lewis
SF: Christie / Vando / Reddish
PF: LBJ / Rui / Traoré / Castleton
C: AD / Hayes / Wood

Vando starting at SF is fine, too. Christie and JHS are both ready. Besides a bit of early season patience, it’s about defense, brains, shot making, play making. Both have what’s needed if we just trust them with minutes early on.

The good thing is all those other names - Christie, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis aren't really serious NBA rotation players, so Knecht should get his fair share of minutes. And LBJ slots in at 4, not 2 or 3, now, so they're not really in each other's way.

Ideally, if he can just simply hold up defensively, I'd like to see him get about 20-30 of Austin & Rui's bench minutes at the 2 & 3. Get 8-12 FGA and be replaced in the 4th.

JHS isn't starting above Dlo. Did you watch him play last year at all? Or too busy watching the Celtics? lol. Dlo is a fairly productive player in the regular season, without a nearly capable replacement on the roster, so he's gonna get his minutes, regardless of how he's perceived by us.

[stan francisco]

Knecht showed great promise in SL. Unlike rookie Jaime last year, I don’t think he’ll contribute substantially in his own year one. The soft defense would make Knecht a target in the playoffs, like D Lo is. I see Knecht as a bench weapon competing for minutes on the wing against LBJ, Christie, Vando, Rui, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis.

I’d like to see this starting line-up

PG: JHS / D Lo / Vincent
SG: AR / Knecht / Hinson / Lewis
SF: Christie / Vando / Reddish
PF: LBJ / Rui / Traoré / Castleton
C: AD / Hayes / Wood

Vando starting at SF is fine, too. Christie and JHS are both ready. Besides a bit of early season patience, it’s about defense, brains, shot making, play making. Both have what’s needed if we just trust them with minutes early on.

The good thing is all those other names - Christie, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis aren't really serious NBA rotation players, so Knecht should get his fair share of minutes. And LBJ slots in at 4, not 2 or 3, now, so they're not really in each other's way.

Ideally, if he can just simply hold up defensively, I'd like to see him get about 20-30 of Austin & Rui's bench minutes at the 2 & 3. Get 8-12 FGA and be replaced in the 4th.

JHS isn't starting above Dlo. Did you watch him play last year at all? Or too busy watching the Celtics? lol. Dlo is a fairly productive player in the regular season, without a nearly capable replacement on the roster, so he's gonna get his minutes, regardless of how he's perceived by us.

The Celtics? Why would anyone in their right mind do that?

D Lo is totally worthless on defense. Perceived? His defense sucks. It’s a fact. Watch both ends, then post.

[SlimShady83]

D Lo is totally worthless on defense. Perceived? His defense sucks. It’s a fact. Watch both ends, then post.

100% on this, DLO doesn't even put his hands up to at least pretend to play defense lol

Another reason I'm placing him on the bench and starting; Reaves, Max, Knecht - I want to keep Vando healthy for the playoffs

I'm so ready for a Max Christie break out year.

[DanishLakerFan]

D Lo is totally worthless on defense. Perceived? His defense sucks. It’s a fact. Watch both ends, then post.

100% on this, DLO doesn't even put his hands up to at least pretend to play defense lol

Another reason I'm placing him on the bench and starting; Reaves, Max, Knecht - I want to keep Vando healthy for the playoffs

I'm so ready for a Max Christie break out year.

Regular season D'Lo is overall a really productive player. His defense is ass, but his offense is really good. Didn't he just shoot the most 3s as a Laker ever? Issue is playoff-D'Lo, where he gets hunted on defense and haven't been able to make up for it on the other end.

[SlimShady83]

D Lo is totally worthless on defense. Perceived? His defense sucks. It’s a fact. Watch both ends, then post.

100% on this, DLO doesn't even put his hands up to at least pretend to play defense lol

Another reason I'm placing him on the bench and starting; Reaves, Max, Knecht - I want to keep Vando healthy for the playoffs

I'm so ready for a Max Christie break out year.

Regular season D'Lo is overall a really productive player. His defense is ass, but his offense is really good. Didn't he just shoot the most 3s as a Laker ever? Issue is playoff-D'Lo, where he gets hunted on defense and haven't been able to make up for it on the other end.

Totally agree here no doubt... Lakers are going to either start; Reaves or Dlo, hopefully JJ doesn't start both they don't fit. Sure they might like playing with each other, but they don't fit.

Either Reaves or DLO should be benched and with how JJ likes Reaves and I expect Reaves to play a lot of Point, I'm expecting Reaves to be starting, just hope both dont' start - DLO would benefit more ofa 6th man role then Reaves.

[LakersSoul]

D Lo is totally worthless on defense. Perceived? His defense sucks. It’s a fact. Watch both ends, then post.

100% on this, DLO doesn't even put his hands up to at least pretend to play defense lol

Another reason I'm placing him on the bench and starting; Reaves, Max, Knecht - I want to keep Vando healthy for the playoffs

I'm so ready for a Max Christie break out year.

Yeah, Dlo will be a good tradable piece this year. Lottery pick leader and a good salary match player.

Or at worst, a good microwave off the bench.

AR
MAX
KNECHT
BRON
AD

Also, want to see what Bronny brings but all season he needs to keep putting up those 3s and work on that D. In a year or two, Gabe will be a good trade piece as well.

[SlimShady83]

Also, want to see what Bronny brings but all season he needs to keep putting up those 3s and work on that D. In a year or two, Gabe will be a good trade piece as well.

Unless It's garbage time, In either blow wins/losses I don't want to see any Bronny - I'm sure It's gonna happen no doubt, It will probably happen with in the first 10 games or so just for the media etc. I need to see him In pre-season b4 making my full judgement, but really hoping he doesn't get much playing time.

[LakersSoul]

Also, want to see what Bronny brings but all season he needs to keep putting up those 3s and work on that D. In a year or two, Gabe will be a good trade piece as well.

Unless It's garbage time, In either blow wins/losses I don't want to see any Bronny - I'm sure It's gonna happen no doubt, It will probably happen with in the first 10 games or so just for the media etc. I need to see him In pre-season b4 making my full judgement, but really hoping he doesn't get much playing time.

Ah,…. for SL Lakers.
Not NBA this year.

[SlimShady83]

Also, want to see what Bronny brings but all season he needs to keep putting up those 3s and work on that D. In a year or two, Gabe will be a good trade piece as well.

Unless It's garbage time, In either blow wins/losses I don't want to see any Bronny - I'm sure It's gonna happen no doubt, It will probably happen with in the first 10 games or so just for the media etc. I need to see him In pre-season b4 making my full judgement, but really hoping he doesn't get much playing time.

Ah,…. for SL Lakers.
Not NBA this year.

Oh yeh my bad didn't read It properly =

[stan francisco]

Knecht showed great promise in SL. Unlike rookie Jaime last year, I don’t think he’ll contribute substantially in his own year one. The soft defense would make Knecht a target in the playoffs, like D Lo is. I see Knecht as a bench weapon competing for minutes on the wing against LBJ, Christie, Vando, Rui, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis.

I’d like to see this starting line-up

PG: JHS / D Lo / Vincent
SG: AR / Knecht / Hinson / Lewis
SF: Christie / Vando / Reddish
PF: LBJ / Rui / Traoré / Castleton
C: AD / Hayes / Wood

Vando starting at SF is fine, too. Christie and JHS are both ready. Besides a bit of early season patience, it’s about defense, brains, shot making, play making. Both have what’s needed if we just trust them with minutes early on.

The good thing is all those other names - Christie, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis aren't really serious NBA rotation players, so Knecht should get his fair share of minutes. And LBJ slots in at 4, not 2 or 3, now, so they're not really in each other's way.

Ideally, if he can just simply hold up defensively, I'd like to see him get about 20-30 of Austin & Rui's bench minutes at the 2 & 3. Get 8-12 FGA and be replaced in the 4th.

JHS isn't starting above Dlo. Did you watch him play last year at all? Or too busy watching the Celtics? lol. Dlo is a fairly productive player in the regular season, without a nearly capable replacement on the roster, so he's gonna get his minutes, regardless of how he's perceived by us.

“Fairly productive” is only a fair statement if you add wording like ‘on one end’, or something like ‘if you are blind to defense’…

JHS plays defense. So, he should start over D Lo, period. He’s perhaps not all that yet but he’s 6’6”, built like a Marcus Smart or Josh Hart type of bulldog / tank. Not yet broken through as an NBA rotation player, he’s already had several 30PPG in the g league. I think he’s ready to go. Even if all he has is a pulse, his defense is surely better than D Lo’s.

Lakers PG role needs: play tough-arse POA defense, bring the ball up and hand it over to AD or LBJ, knock down open shots, don’t turn it over. JHS can do all of that. D Lo can’t. He falls short on items number one and two and four, so it’s a no go for me. It’s fool’s gold for coaches to let D Lo freewheel it bouncy-ball style; it gives you easy points but prevents good team habits from developing before the post season is suddenly here.

Trade his expiring by the deadline, please.

Knecht might want to play defense but he’s a skinny rookie. Meet Harden, Butler, Leonard… I’ll give him a year but hope to be proven wrong.

[tamaraw08]

The lineup has to cover defensively for LeBron, so you can’t just focus on scoring… Vando at least used to be a solid man defender, when he was healthy…. I’d lean that way right now but who knows what will happen with JJ and some time…

Yeah, if Vando shoots at a decent clip , say 36%, then the defense will have to respect him.

Vando’s energy and D is top notch so hope the practices have helped, esp at corner 3.

Vando with his great defense, shooting 36% from 3 pt area would make him a borderline allstar imo.
if he shoots 36% FG overall, then he is unplayable.
It is my hope Max Christie would breakout this coming season.
Knecht should be taking defensive lessons from Cooper or Pippen or Rick Fox starting last month.

[LakersSoul]

The lineup has to cover defensively for LeBron, so you can’t just focus on scoring… Vando at least used to be a solid man defender, when he was healthy…. I’d lean that way right now but who knows what will happen with JJ and some time…

Yeah, if Vando shoots at a decent clip , say 36%, then the defense will have to respect him.

Vando’s energy and D is top notch so hope the practices have helped, esp at corner 3.

Vando with his great defense, shooting 36% from 3 pt area would make him a borderline allstar imo.
if he shoots 36% FG overall, then he is unplayable.
It is my hope Max Christie would breakout this coming season.
Knecht should be taking defensive lessons from Cooper or Pippen or Rick Fox starting last month.

Reaves, Max and Knecht, all need to improve their defense.

Counting on these three to make a big jump this year and play meaningful minutes.

[Godfather13]

Knecht showed great promise in SL. Unlike rookie Jaime last year, I don’t think he’ll contribute substantially in his own year one. The soft defense would make Knecht a target in the playoffs, like D Lo is. I see Knecht as a bench weapon competing for minutes on the wing against LBJ, Christie, Vando, Rui, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis.

I’d like to see this starting line-up

PG: JHS / D Lo / Vincent
SG: AR / Knecht / Hinson / Lewis
SF: Christie / Vando / Reddish
PF: LBJ / Rui / Traoré / Castleton
C: AD / Hayes / Wood

Vando starting at SF is fine, too. Christie and JHS are both ready. Besides a bit of early season patience, it’s about defense, brains, shot making, play making. Both have what’s needed if we just trust them with minutes early on.

The good thing is all those other names - Christie, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis aren't really serious NBA rotation players, so Knecht should get his fair share of minutes. And LBJ slots in at 4, not 2 or 3, now, so they're not really in each other's way.

Ideally, if he can just simply hold up defensively, I'd like to see him get about 20-30 of Austin & Rui's bench minutes at the 2 & 3. Get 8-12 FGA and be replaced in the 4th.

JHS isn't starting above Dlo. Did you watch him play last year at all? Or too busy watching the Celtics? lol. Dlo is a fairly productive player in the regular season, without a nearly capable replacement on the roster, so he's gonna get his minutes, regardless of how he's perceived by us.

The Celtics? Why would anyone in their right mind do that?

D Lo is totally worthless on defense. Perceived? His defense sucks. It’s a fact. Watch both ends, then post.

Not surprised you didn't get the joke.

DLo being ass isn't breaking news. JHS being ass on both ends isn't either.

[Godfather13]

Knecht showed great promise in SL. Unlike rookie Jaime last year, I don’t think he’ll contribute substantially in his own year one. The soft defense would make Knecht a target in the playoffs, like D Lo is. I see Knecht as a bench weapon competing for minutes on the wing against LBJ, Christie, Vando, Rui, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis.

I’d like to see this starting line-up

PG: JHS / D Lo / Vincent
SG: AR / Knecht / Hinson / Lewis
SF: Christie / Vando / Reddish
PF: LBJ / Rui / Traoré / Castleton
C: AD / Hayes / Wood

Vando starting at SF is fine, too. Christie and JHS are both ready. Besides a bit of early season patience, it’s about defense, brains, shot making, play making. Both have what’s needed if we just trust them with minutes early on.

The good thing is all those other names - Christie, Reddish, Hinson, Lewis aren't really serious NBA rotation players, so Knecht should get his fair share of minutes. And LBJ slots in at 4, not 2 or 3, now, so they're not really in each other's way.

Ideally, if he can just simply hold up defensively, I'd like to see him get about 20-30 of Austin & Rui's bench minutes at the 2 & 3. Get 8-12 FGA and be replaced in the 4th.

JHS isn't starting above Dlo. Did you watch him play last year at all? Or too busy watching the Celtics? lol. Dlo is a fairly productive player in the regular season, without a nearly capable replacement on the roster, so he's gonna get his minutes, regardless of how he's perceived by us.

“Fairly productive” is only a fair statement if you add wording like ‘on one end’, or something like ‘if you are blind to defense’…

JHS plays defense. So, he should start over D Lo, period. He’s perhaps not all that yet but he’s 6’6”, built like a Marcus Smart or Josh Hart type of bulldog / tank. Not yet broken through as an NBA rotation player, he’s already had several 30PPG in the g league. I think he’s ready to go. Even if all he has is a pulse, his defense is surely better than D Lo’s.

Lakers PG role needs: play tough-arse POA defense, bring the ball up and hand it over to AD or LBJ, knock down open shots, don’t turn it over. JHS can do all of that. D Lo can’t. He falls short on items number one and two and four, so it’s a no go for me. It’s fool’s gold for coaches to let D Lo freewheel it bouncy-ball style; it gives you easy points but prevents good team habits from developing before the post season is suddenly here.

Trade his expiring by the deadline, please.

Knecht might want to play defense but he’s a skinny rookie. Meet Harden, Butler, Leonard… I’ll give him a year but hope to be proven wrong.

Dlo is a loser, but he's a 17-7 18 mil guy in this league.

JHS isn't an NBA player yet. He's a worse player than THT so far.

Absolutely terrible take.

[Godfather13]

Yeah, if Vando shoots at a decent clip , say 36%, then the defense will have to respect him.

Vando’s energy and D is top notch so hope the practices have helped, esp at corner 3.

Vando with his great defense, shooting 36% from 3 pt area would make him a borderline allstar imo.
if he shoots 36% FG overall, then he is unplayable.
It is my hope Max Christie would breakout this coming season.
Knecht should be taking defensive lessons from Cooper or Pippen or Rick Fox starting last month.

Reaves, Max and Knecht, all need to improve their defense.

Counting on these three to make a big jump this year and play meaningful minutes.

I'm a bit surprised Reaves and Max haven't added any muscle weight in 2+ years. They should have realized it themselves and the Lakers staff should've pretty much forced it down their throats simultaneously.

Fwiw, size/strength aside, I think Max has terrific fundamentals. His size and sporadic rotations under Ham were just terrible for him last year.

[Godfather13]

Vando with his great defense, shooting 36% from 3 pt area would make him a borderline allstar imo.
if he shoots 36% FG overall, then he is unplayable.

100% true!!!

If not an allstar, he'll at least be a 25-30 mil guy with a league average 3 ball.

But, I think there's enough of a sample size(7 years with only one outlier season of positive RAPM) to say that he is what he is atp, and we can either sell high on him now or suck up his vibes for 3 more years. He's very unlikely to ever be a positively productive player for a team that wants to win. But we don't seem like we really want to win, so I guess, it's all good.

[Godfather13]

Yeah, Dlo will be a good tradable piece this year. Lottery pick leader and a good salary match player.

Or at worst, a good microwave off the bench.

AR
MAX
KNECHT
BRON
AD

Also, want to see what Bronny brings but all season he needs to keep putting up those 3s and work on that D. In a year or two, Gabe will be a good trade piece as well.

I'll say it again. Bronny and Lewis shouldn't have been given our last two roster spots. Neither may ever become NBA rotation players.

We just missed out on GTJ and TP because of this absolute war crime.