Kwame's Teammates Defend Him......Didn't Like The Boos

[Tommy Trojan]

One thing people fail to realize is this is a business. And as long as it is a business we need to improve each and every year to keep the customers happy. Customers are the fans and the fan

[wezbo]

Getting frustrated is understandable, but real fans don't boo. Doesn't matter how tough it gets, real fans sticks with their team.

[Slava]

Well I don't think you can really blame anyone here man, these fans buy tickets several weeks in advance and most of them would have booked theirs wishing to see Andrew Bynum and Kobe Bryant kick the living hell out of the Suns, who also happen to be our worst rivals for the past 3 years or so and what do they get to see? Kwame Brown playing the crappiest he's ever played on national TV on home court and naturally they were ticked off like you and I would be after spending like 200 bucks for a ticket to watch Kwame throw bricks.

Its similar to the way NY fans booed Sasha when he started because of Kobe's suspension. I bet most of them don't even know who Sasha is but they paid good money to sit in MSG and watch the best player play, which was not happening and they were just frustrated, plain and simple.

Thats what I'd do if I'd bought tickets to the Transformers movie and they end up showing me one of them Legally Blonde movies.

[DEEP3CL]

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If you worked for me I would have you drug tested. The fans had every right to boo him and I'm glad they did. If Kwame had a real job he'd be fired long ago. Please don't give me this I'm still injured crap. Fine, stay injured. The only reason Kwame looked good in tha Pheonix series was because Amare didn't play and Diaw was the center. When we traded for him there were numerous Wizard fans who said he would never get more than the MLE. Jokes on us. I'll bet this guy gets no more than MLE money this offseason and no more than 2 years max on a contract.

Kwame is the classic guy in the workplace that does the minimum to get by. He's the guy that goes on unemployment every Summer and can only work in a family business. Bynum worked harder in the off-season to improve his game than Kwame has in his entire career. If Kwame gave a crap and worked to improve his game this wouldn't have happened. Kwame turned down Kareem's help when he got here. I'm sorry, but coddling this p*ssy needs to stop. And if booing him gets him off the floor and anyone, I mean anyone else in the game than so be it.

But the problem is I don't work for you. Better yet if I saw you on the street I would arrest you for drugs cause you missed the whole point of the thread youngster.

[LLcoleJ]

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Nobody is saying Kwame is great or he is a savior and everyone here knows he sucks.

But guess what.. We have Denver on Monday and then Dal and SA. We need to win games. You would rather lose with Ronny playing 48 minutes a center over pretending to give Kwame confidence?

Nobody is arguing that Kwame is good, nobody. But we need all the help we can get at this point and we need it now.

Yes, this is a business and we dont have many other options.

[dingclancy]

I think this is Kwame's Best game:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cI621RlDVcA

[Leonidas]

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werd my boi...

[b shaw20]

Apologize to Kwame and cheer him when he comes out the tunnel, cheer him when he's introduced with the starters, cheer him when he grabs a rebound, cheer him when he scores, cheer him when he stops his man.

Just cheer for him it's not that hard to do people.

How about Cheer him when he misses a put back... or cheer him when he fumbles a pass.. or cheer him when he is called for an offensive foul.... or cheer him when he misses again....or cheer him when he bricks both free throws... or cheer him when someone gets by him on a backdoor play...or cheer him when he throws the ball away for him umfteen turnover.. and on and on and on.

I think Laker fans reached their boiling point last night, that's all. Fans have supported Kwame over the years he's been with the team. How many times have we seen him play horrible and boo him. Last night was the final straw. Everyone has been waiting for him to grow as a player, especially when significant minutes have been virtually guaranteed over the years with our lack of depth at C position. As some people have said, not once have we seen development in his game. Even his free throws continue to suffer.

The timing of it all just added to the frustration. The Lakers finally are starting to get respect around the league and are offering true hope to their faithful and they sustain a setback with Drew's injury. Its NOW that Kwame had to step up his game and show heart, especially against a hated rival at HOME! Instead, he laid an egg. Possibly the worst game of his career as a Laker. You could see it, sense it.... he wanted to do well. But Kwame just can't turn it on when the light are on. He has not put in the work into his game so that he can hold his own out there when it truly counts. He's been in the league because of his size and potential, period. He will never, ever develop into a consistant NBA player because he has always settled for what he is. And I can't say I blame him....perhaps being good at his craft is not that important to him as he will continue to receive a nice paycheck whether he puts up 15 and 12 or 4 and 8 on a daily basis.

I did feel bad for him for being put in the position where he is looked upon to carry a load, one which he is clearly incapable of carrying. For that I blame Phil....but props to the team for backing him up. That is the right thing to do.

IMO he should have gone more to Turiaf, who was playing at a much higher level. He could have changed the strategy and not run the offense through him temporarily. Instead, they kept forcing the ball to a guy that was mentally not there.

Its not about kwame being a bad guy. Its about him being an underperformer. They have given him opportunities time and again and he continues to awe with his ineptitude.

He is the definition of a scrub. Sad but true....

The less Kwame plays, the better our chances to win.

Sorry for the long post....I pray that we will have signed an able body to replace him by the morning.

[Showtime:Part2]

homers don't boo. real fans tell the team what they think of their performance. this sends a clear signal to mitch that something needs to be done asap. webber should already be in a laker uni and kwame should be shipped out for kurt thomas.

[LLcoleJ]

homers don't boo. real fans tell the team what they think of their performance. this sends a clear signal to mitch that something needs to be done asap. webber should already be in a laker uni and kwame should be shipped out for kurt thomas.

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its not a question of homers v. realfans...seriously, please. We want to win ball games. Yes, Kwame has not cut it. If you think that booing him will somehow spurn a reaction that the FO has to trade him from someone better is naive.

He is only valuable if another team wants his contract. If not, we dont have much else.

[semi-sentient]

homers don't boo. real fans tell the team what they think of their performance. this sends a clear signal to mitch that something needs to be done asap. webber should already be in a laker uni and kwame should be shipped out for kurt thomas.

Would you care to explain to us why Seattle would even consider sending Thomas for Kwame, when both are expiring and make about the same amount of money? Perhaps they were so impressed with the boos that they're willing to take their chance on Kwame and his potential for the low asking price of an old fart?

[Showtime:Part2]

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Would you care to explain to us why Seattle would even consider sending Thomas for Kwame, when both are expiring and make about the same amount of money? Perhaps they were so impressed with the boos that they're willing to take their chance on Kwame and his potential for the low asking price of an old fart?

well, we could throw in sasha, cash, and a 2nd round.

[Tommy Trojan]

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Everyone knows how bad he has been, and as I fan we have the right to express our opinion.

No one is saying he should not play, what some of us are saying we should trade him.

[Showtime:Part2]

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naive much?

no. i'm just not afraid to express how I feel. sure I can whine about it on realgm, but i'd rather just let kwame know directly. when you're a public figure you should expect such actions. he deserves it too. look how much bynum improved with the help of kareem. if kwame spent time working hard, it wouldn't be such a problem. 99% of nba players improve in something over their career. what has kwame improved in?

[LLcoleJ]

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well, we could throw in sasha, cash, and a 2nd round.

There is no incentive for SEA. They have an exp. in Thomas and they are set up for a nice future as is. There is no reason why they would alter their current competitive team ( not winning, but a team that is bringing fans in) to get a 2nd round pick and Sasha.

[RJM]

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no. i'm just not afraid to express how I feel. sure I can whine about it on realgm, but i'd rather just let kwame know directly. when you're a public figure you should expect such actions. he deserves it too. look how much bynum improved with the help of kareem. if kwame spent time working hard, it wouldn't be such a problem. 99% of nba players improve in something over their career. what has kwame improved in?

Cake throwing?

[Showtime:Part2]

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There is no incentive for SEA. They have an exp. in Thomas and they are set up for a nice future as is. There is no reason why they would alter their current competitive team ( not winning, but a team that is bringing fans in) to get a 2nd round pick and Sasha.

cash? why do they need thomas? they can just buyout the rest of kwame's contract. they'll end up with cash and a 2nd rounder so they don't let an expiring go to waste.

[LLcoleJ]

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Everyone knows how bad he has been, and as I fan we have the right to express our opinion.

never said you cant. but what would you prefer?

breaking down a man just to tell him he sucks? Or lying to him and hoping he helps ?

No one is saying he should not play, what some of us are saying we should trade him.

I never said he should or shouldnt play. He is on our team and he is the only Center we got. Everyone here knows he is bad, everyone here would like to get him traded ( myself included)

But do you think he will get back something better? Do you think while we are in such a good standings that we should expect that to just happen while booing him off the court will some how make this team better?

[semi-sentient]

no. i'm just not afraid to express how I feel. sure I can whine about it on realgm, but i'd rather just let kwame know directly. when you're a public figure you should expect such actions. he deserves it too. look how much bynum improved with the help of kareem. if kwame spent time working hard, it wouldn't be such a problem. 99% of nba players improve in something over their career. what has kwame improved in?

There is no doubt about that, but the same applies to other players on our team. How has Odom improved? Walton? Kwame isn't the only one whose been a disappointment this season.

The original point behind all this is that we struggled as a team these past 2 games, and yet we're taking it out on one player in a bad manner that is detrimental to the attitude of the team as a whole. Odom, Fisher, and Walton have all struggled offensively these past couple of games, and their defense has been nothing short of awful.

I'd personally prefer that we all support the team as it is and let things work themselves out. If Kwame doesn't perform, rest assured that it's going to be taken into consideration by management. Booing, IMO, has a negative affect on the entire team (not just Kwame), so it doesn't really help improve our situation.

[LLcoleJ]

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cash? why do they need thomas? they can just buyout the rest of kwame's contract. they'll end up with cash and a 2nd rounder so they don't let an expiring go to waste.

They traded for Thomas to get the cap relief. They want it to got to waste. And they want to put a product on the court that makes the fans come back. Swaping contracts and getting back Kwame wont help that and they are not going to do that for 3 million in cash and a 2nd. Why would they?

They are stacked with centers for the future. They have a young supertar. They might move. They know they are not winning anything.

They are not going to get worse to get a 2nd rounder.