2018 Trade Ideas thread

[BBBKobe]

Like I stated in the other thread, your roster is impossible unless Randle and IT are renounced and sign for the min. We still don't have enough money for two max slots. Randle has to be renounced along with IT and Deng will probably need stretched or traded.

[Pointgod]

PG should be the primary target, PERIOD... He is long, young and plays hard on both ends... I would prefer Capella or Noel, if reasonable, at C, which would allow us to keep Randle, plus, Cousins is a headache... Look what the Pelicans are doing without him right now... Let IT go... He doesn’t fit the system... Every player should be 6’5” to 6’9” ish so we can switch everything...

“Talent Wind Games, Chemistry Wins Championships”...

Paul George always wanted to play for the Lakers. It will be way too expensive for OKC to keep. He should be our #1 priority this offseason. I disagree on Cousins. Pelicans were playing great before he went down. If there’s a window to sign him you do it. We have all our picks going forward so we can afford to wait him out. George, Cousins and a resigned Randle would put us in the playoffs. Trade Deng for another all star, sign vets and this team is a powerhouse if any of our young guys break out.

[LeCalinou]

PG should be the primary target, PERIOD... He is long, young and plays hard on both ends... I would prefer Capella or Noel, if reasonable, at C, which would allow us to keep Randle, plus, Cousins is a headache... Look what the Pelicans are doing without him right now... Let IT go... He doesn’t fit the system... Every player should be 6’5” to 6’9” ish so we can switch everything...

“Talent Wind Games, Chemistry Wins Championships”...

I completely agree with you on PG being the main target. He plays hard on both ends and doesn't hijack the offense throughout the game. No one on the current roster is known for 3pt shooting. Or haven't shot it well this season (think IT).
Imagine what can be accomplished with more consistency from all the young players and decent 3 point shooters to complement them.
Randle isn't a shooter, but his skill set is unique. He gives you an edge when everything else is equal.
You start with chemistry and a good system, and players like Randle and Lonzo make much more of a difference with talented teammates around.

[Vae Victus]

Randle is too lacking in offensive tools to be a cornerstone. If you put a long athletic strong body on Randle, wtf is he gonna do other than chuck up low % ISO post ups, not to mention he cant PnR worth a damn, with his piss poor screens, and lack of instincts diving to the bucket after a screen.

Randle can get his, but it comes at the cost of flow to the offense. He has to do his own thing to maximize himself at the cost of the others. Keeping him at any significant money (>12 mil) is unwise, he's perfect for bullying bench units but against playoff caliber starting frontcourts he's gonna get exposed.

Kuzma is the future at PF, he's starting to come around after the drop in his usage/play. When he stopped being a high usage player his efficiency tanked (also likely coincided with hitting the rookie wall and teams making adjustments to him), however after some time, he's now getting his offense in the flow, without overly hogging the ball. He still does to an extant, but nowhere near like the beginning of the season, or the way Randle is now (who understandably is stat padding in his contract year). Also his ability to space the floor is paramount, as spacing is king nowadays.

Signing PG13 is the key to our future. Just having him alone will make the game SO MUCH EASIER for everyone else. But if PG13 will only come if LBJ is here, then we gotta bite the bullet, trade whatever assets it takes to get rid of Deng, maybe renounce Randle (if we come up short on trading Deng), and just roll with it.

Failing on getting any major FA is gonna be one helluva egg on the team's face. Having trading away DLo, Nance, and Clarkson for essentially nothing. Unless the team signs a bunch of good tradeable deals (to package for better players), which i kinda doubt, as EVERY team with cap space will be looking to do the same.

[So Gutta]

LeBron would be terrible for this team. Just stay in Cleveland, bro. We're on the rise, and don't need to commit precious salary on a 34 year old.

[MAMBAEMD]

If we get PG13, that increases our chance of getting LBJ too.
And vice versa.

PG 13 should get a long term deal.
LBJ can be a 3 year deal and then one year deals.

Do it Maginka!!!

[ronnymac2]

Why do you guys want overrated free agents so much? You've got a young core of legitimately good players. Ball/Kuzma/Ingram/Randle can play.

[Dloading99]

All good.

He's going to Houston pg Paul sg Harden sf Lebron that's what Lebron is about the Superstars.

this isn't a story.

Paul George will be a Laker Lebron is a rocket. it's so basketball easy. it's a done deal. Warriors rockets Durant vs. Lebron it's what the NBA wants. but hey The Lakers will get the guy they always wanted. and maybe you resign Lopez and Isiah on team friendly deals to get the team you want.

[Slink]

Why do you guys want overrated free agents so much? You've got a young core of legitimately good players. Ball/Kuzma/Ingram/Randle can play.

We need veteran leadership. Someone that can take charge on both ends of the floor. Having that will help develop these guys faster. One FA would be enough for me.

[SlimShady83]

KEEP THE CORE - Ennis, KCP, Lolpez <> fill in their spots ... Enter PG13 - then wait for 2019 ...

Please Magic/rob don't go for Lebum

It's all I ask

[MAMBAEMD]

I don't understand the hesitation and resistance to get the best player in the game who still appears to be in his prime.
We're not giving away our young core. There may even be a way to keep Randle AND get PG and LBJ.

Getting PG only makes us a playoff contender.
Getting PG and LBJ make us title contenders.

Keep in mind, PG may not come if LBJ's not coming.

[TyCobb]

If our best player (Zo) was opposed to getting LeBron then there would be reason to avoid signing him. However, with him openly appreciative of him and not only willing to, but wanting to co-exist with him....it's an absolute no-brainer.

George won't pass the opportunity to play with LeBron and the kids in LA.

Our 'patience' was the past 4 years. Lonzo is win-now type of player.

Just enjoy the show.

[Spens1]

I don't think its too much to ask/expect that we get into the playoffs next year, their really is no excuse for not being at least there, especially given how we're finishing off the season now, if we played like this the whole year, i'd say we'd be in the hunt or somewhat close.

I think George, even without Lebron, should come to L.A because lets face it, George as the franchise with these kids is a balanced lineup, plus he's a fit (move Ingram to S.G. where he'd be fine and his body issues at that position aren't nearly as bad as it is at S.F.

Ball-Ingram-George-Kuzma-Lopez (I presume) is a playoff team and probably a mid 40's team (somewhere in that 43-39 to 48-34 team at that, so pretty solid).

[MAMBAEMD]

It will be hard to get into the playoffs next year without either PG and LBJ.
I doubt KCP and Lopez stay without long-term deals, and we shouldn't make the same mistake that Mitch and Jimmy made with Mozgov/Deng and give 2nd or 3rd tier FAs more than one year deals.

[footworkonpoint]

I like the moves Magic/Pelinka have been making drafting well and being strategic in terms of salary cap for not only this summer by the following one as well. I really hope LeBron does not come here it just wouldn't sit right with me if the Lakers turned into the soap opera that is the Cavs, you know no matter what LeBron is going to do what's best for him who knows what kind of deal he signs 1 +1 or whatever the most logically move is money wise at the same time so he can do what he is famous for is he staying is he leaving bs. I love Boogie Cousins but an Achilles tear is no joke I wouldn't risk it. I would love to sign PG13 but he basically plays the same postion as Ingram and do really see a team with him as a number 1 winning anything in the west? I really liked what the Thunder did yes they got Durant in 2007-2008 through the draft won 20 games his rookie season used to the draft to get Westbrook only won 23 games in Durants 2nd year, Westbrook's rookie season. Used the draft to get Harden and in Durants third season improved to a 50 win team. I know it is Durant, Westbrook, and Harden but you get my point. Build around our youth let Lonzo get some strength and an NBA body so he can finish taking it the hole, Ingram already showed major strides in his 2nd season. Try to keep Randle at a reasonable price unless the Mavs offer him major money I love the kid but I dunno how the Lakers match. Keep using our draft pics to find studs like Hart and Kuzma. Only sign franchise changing Stars ie Leonard would be a god send. This is the Lakers they don't play for first round or 2nd round exits we play for banners. Don't get me wrong I am all for gradual improvement. This team by the time Lonzo is in his third year, Ingram in his 4th season and whoever they sign is going to be a hell of a squad there is no reason to be impatient and spend cap space this summer.


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[Dr Aki]

those three straight years, OKC landed 3 perennial MVP candidates year after year after year. do you understand the odds of such a thing? and they still **** it up, because they chose ibaka (and team fit) over harden

compare that to our core, how many look like contenders for the MVP? how many look like they have the potential to become perennial all-stars, let alone compete for the MVP? maybe ingram, if he continues on the KD path, but even then he'd be a lesser KD. maybe lonzo, if the allstar guard depth ever lets up, this ain't rondo and the leastern conference here

now to win, you know we need allstars, probably a first ballot HoF or two and most importantly, luck.

this is no time to be choosy beggars, the only way patience is the key, is if we strike out on lebron and george, so we're forced to be patient

[footworkonpoint]

those three straight years, OKC landed 3 perennial MVP candidates year after year after year. do you understand the odds of such a thing? and they still **** it up, because they chose ibaka (and team fit) over harden

compare that to our core, how many look like contenders for the MVP? how many look like they have the potential to become perennial all-stars, let alone compete for the MVP? maybe ingram, if he continues on the KD path, but even then he'd be a lesser KD. maybe lonzo, if the allstar guard depth ever lets up, this ain't rondo and the leastern conference here

now to win, you know we need allstars, probably a first ballot HoF or two and most importantly, luck.

this is no time to be choosy beggars, the only way patience is the key, is if we strike out on lebron and george, so we're forced to be patient

That's not the point the point was even with all that taken it took 3 years to go from 20 wins to 23 wins to 50. I am not saying Lonzo Ball and Ingram are Durant and Westbrook but I like what I seem from them and can see both being key contributors to a championship team.

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[footworkonpoint]

those three straight years, OKC landed 3 perennial MVP candidates year after year after year. do you understand the odds of such a thing? and they still **** it up, because they chose ibaka (and team fit) over harden

compare that to our core, how many look like contenders for the MVP? how many look like they have the potential to become perennial all-stars, let alone compete for the MVP? maybe ingram, if he continues on the KD path, but even then he'd be a lesser KD. maybe lonzo, if the allstar guard depth ever lets up, this ain't rondo and the leastern conference here

now to win, you know we need allstars, probably a first ballot HoF or two and most importantly, luck.

this is no time to be choosy beggars, the only way patience is the key, is if we strike out on lebron and george, so we're forced to be patient

If we were patient the off season with signed luol Deng and mozgov we would be in a much better situation. I know that was a different regime but all I am saying is I doubt LeBron is coming here so will PG come here as the only star or do we wait for the simmer after this one.

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[stan francisco]

Patience used to be preached around here by some posters in the past. Never had much traction amongst a rather impatient Lakers fan base, I think.

It takes years to rebuild for any team. But the Lakers are expected to be a contender every year. That's what Kobe's challenge "it takes a certain kind..." was all about.

It is different to be the lead star on the Yankees, Lakers etc compared to the Orioles and the Cavs.

LeBron is probably mentally ready for the challenge. Durant is. Kawhi is. AD is. I don't think PG13 is zen enough to handle it. Would I sign him for a 1+1? Yep, but only to help lure one of the others here.

That's why I think it will be announced on the first week of FA that PG13 is a Laker.

[Landsberger]

OKC is the perfect example of waiting.... well maybe not. They had 3 players who are better than anyone we've drafted and then added a really good player in Ibaka to that mix and still couldn't get to a conference final. 3 MVP's potentially and yet no championship. That should tell you a lot about how hard it is to create a championship culture and team right there.

Waiting for Ingram, Ball and Randle to become anywhere close to those 3 will be futile. They didn't have a clear leader and we don't is about the only similarity I see. It's the most important distinction as well.

There is always an irrational part of this where fans love the idea of seeing their teams players develop into superstars. Every team has fans that believe their players are those guys and that any outside help is somehow polluting the greatness of their guys. Great teams are chemistry first and players second. 2004 Detroit showed us that first hand. 2008 Celtics as well.

You can't draft chemistry and you can't draft balance. Our team is imbalanced in several key areas and lacks leadership. These have to be built and acquired. Waiting doesn't create either.

The FO wants to move fast to being relevant again. This offseason they can do that if they bring in LeBron IMHO. I'm not a huge fan of his and adding a mid-30's superstar has it's issues but this team needs that kind of guy here and the owners want to be back as quickly as possible. My guess it that he's our primary target and we go all in. The cost could be Randle but my guess is that the ownership would still do it in a heartbeat.