Lakers Fans - Who Would You Like LA to Pick Up Now

[danfantastk32]

What?

You've been saying that for 2 years, but yet choose to use the Lakers record as an indictment against AD-Lebron alone? That makes sense

And you did a Kamala about the coaching thing. Can you rephrase?

Bud...you got the obsession with Lebron not me. I get that you take anything I say as an indictment against Lebron and AD....but that's your own mental hoola-hoops at work. My issue is 100% whether this team can win another title. I don't care if the Pope is on our team...if he can't win us a title, then I'll move his ass for draft picks too.

We're not paying Lebron and AD a $100mil a year, so we could get boners watching the olympic team....we wanna see titles with the LAKERS. Nobody's indicting anyone....your trying to throw Olympic stats and glory into the discussion about the state of the Lakers, and I ain't having it. The Laker record is the record of relevance to this discussion. If that makes no sense to you, go take up knitting...I can't help you.

And I don't know what the F your talking about with Kamala.....I think you need sunlight. Vogel won a title with us...so go figure that one out as well.

[Landsberger]

What?

You've been saying that for 2 years, but yet choose to use the Lakers record as an indictment against AD-Lebron alone? That makes sense

And you did a Kamala about the coaching thing. Can you rephrase?

Bud...you got the obsession with Lebron not me. I get that you take anything I say as an indictment against Lebron and AD....but that's your own mental hoola-hoops at work. My issue is 100% whether this team can win another title. I don't care if the Pope is on our team...if he can't win us a title, then I'll move his ass for draft picks too.

We're not paying Lebron and AD a $100mil a year, so we could get boners watching the olympic team....we wanna see titles with the LAKERS. Nobody's indicting anyone....your trying to throw Olympic stats and glory into the discussion about the state of the Lakers, and I ain't having it. The Laker record is the record of relevance to this discussion. If that makes no sense to you, go take up knitting...I can't help you.

And I don't know what the F your talking about with Kamala.....I think you need sunlight. Vogel won a title with us...so go figure that one out as well.

Yup. Any outcome other than a win in the Olympics would be the sports story of the year. It's not relevant in the NBA. Great, our players did good. It's like being obsessed with how they did in the All Start Game.

If you have 2 players you won't move and continually rebuild around for 4 years it seems that the results of said 4 years is relevant in evaluating those decisions. Well... in a reasoned conversation that is.

I do love the Kamala comment however. Not for the reasons he posted it but in the context of his entire "unburdened" 40 post rant.

[danfantastk32]

The bottom line is that the Lakers have two stars but neither is a closer. Neither James nor Davis can be relied upon to score down the stretch as a game-breaker. Davis is best served as a number two scorer, and James is best served as a number three scorer.

If the goal is to make one last run with James and Davis, the Lakers need a stone-scorer, a guy who can average 25 a game, close games down the stretch, and is physically capable of defending at an average level.

He doesn't have to be a leader. He doesn't even have to be designated the best player on the team. He just needs to put the ball in the basket at a very high level, shoot around 40 percent from three on high volume, and defend his man at a passable level (better than Reaves and Russell).

Out of guys who are reported to be on the block, Simons qualifies, LaVine qualifies, Beal qualifies, Ingram qualifies, Herro qualifies, and LaMelo Ball qualifies.

Would be interesting to see if Lakers had pulled the trigger on Kyrie. He has redeemed himself alot more than most expected. Seems a no-brainer looking back now. But back then, it sure seemed risky. I'm pretty sure I was against it.

I don't know enough about LaMelo to agree or disagree with him qualifying. I wouldn't get Ingram, Personally.

[SlimShady83]

I don't know enough about LaMelo to agree or disagree with him qualifying. I wouldn't get Ingram, Personally.

If you had to pick ...

Lavine OR Ingram ???

[DanishLakerFan]

The bottom line is that the Lakers have two stars but neither is a closer. Neither James nor Davis can be relied upon to score down the stretch as a game-breaker. Davis is best served as a number two scorer, and James is best served as a number three scorer.

If the goal is to make one last run with James and Davis, the Lakers need a stone-scorer, a guy who can average 25 a game, close games down the stretch, and is physically capable of defending at an average level.

He doesn't have to be a leader. He doesn't even have to be designated the best player on the team. He just needs to put the ball in the basket at a very high level, shoot around 40 percent from three on high volume, and defend his man at a passable level (better than Reaves and Russell).

Out of guys who are reported to be on the block, Simons qualifies, LaVine qualifies, Beal qualifies, Ingram qualifies, Herro qualifies, and LaMelo Ball qualifies.

Would be interesting to see if Lakers had pulled the trigger on Kyrie. He has redeemed himself alot more than most expected. Seems a no-brainer looking back now. But back then, it sure seemed risky. I'm pretty sure I was against it.

I don't know enough about LaMelo to agree or disagree with him qualifying. I wouldn't get Ingram, Personally.

I absolutely hated the idea of adding Kyrie based on the fact that all teams he played on since his title win Lebron probably regretted getting him. Maybe he only works well when there's a legit #1 option ahead of him (first Lebron, then Luka).

[danfantastk32]

Not sure if they pulled off a stealth-tank job or if it was complete and utter incompetence that landed them a handfll of high picks that allowed them to retool with Lebron, but it was a miseable time to be a Laker nonetheless.

I think it was incompetence. I think Jim and Mitch were completely hell-bent on signing a superstar. They let decent FA's interested in joining walk, cause they weren't A-listers. And each offseason, by the time their bid for the A-lister failed.....all the decent guys were gobbled up. So they'd piece some complete mish-mash of junk into a 13 man roster, and throw them out there.....only to wait for the next offseason to try again.

They never thought of it as a rebuild. Wasn't their intention at all. Getting three #2 picks in a row, was about the greatest example of dumb luck the world has ever seen. And crazy enough....prob made that absolutely miserable spell shorter than it could have been! Think about that. Had Jim not wasted opportunity after opportunity to sign decent b-level guys....we woulda floundered around getting the 13th-18 pick and things like that. His complete incompetence prob saved us several more years of heart-ache.

And then......he signed Deng and Mozgov. Like minute 1 of the FA season. Mozgov was their main target. So no....there was no cunning schemes going on....just pure ineptitude.



I know they didn't learn anything....but what they should have learned from all of that, was the value of picks.

Letting Dwight walk for nothing. Letting Pau leave for nothing. Doing a S&T with Phoenix for 3 picks to get Nash..when it was already known he'd played his last game there....we were just so careless with our picks. And later on....letting J-Randle just leave. We really shoulda got something for him.

And I'm gonna say it: watch us squander AD's trade value.

[DanishLakerFan]

Not sure if they pulled off a stealth-tank job or if it was complete and utter incompetence that landed them a handfll of high picks that allowed them to retool with Lebron, but it was a miseable time to be a Laker nonetheless.

I think it was incompetence. I think Jim and Mitch were completely hell-bent on signing a superstar. They let decent FA's interested in joining walk, cause they weren't A-listers. And each offseason, by the time their bid for the A-lister failed.....all the decent guys were gobbled up. So they'd piece some complete mish-mash of junk into a 13 man roster, and throw them out there.....only to wait for the next offseason to try again.

They never thought of it as a rebuild. Wasn't their intention at all. Getting three #2 picks in a row, was about the greatest example of dumb luck the world has ever seen. And crazy enough....prob made that absolutely miserable spell shorter than it could have been! Think about that. Had Jim not wasted opportunity after opportunity to sign decent b-level guys....we woulda floundered around getting the 13th-18 pick and things like that. His complete incompetence prob saved us several more years of heart-ache.

And then......he signed Deng and Mozgov. Like minute 1 of the FA season. Mozgov was their main target. So no....there was no cunning schemes going on....just pure ineptitude.



I know they didn't learn anything....but what they should have learned from all of that, was the value of picks.

Letting Dwight walk for nothing. Letting Pau leave for nothing. Doing a S&T with Phoenix for 3 picks to get Nash..when it was already known he'd played his last game there....we were just so careless with our picks. And later on....letting J-Randle just leave. We really shoulda got something for him.

And I'm gonna say it: watch us squander AD's trade value.

I hope they did a stealth tank-job, but honestly i think it was incompetence.

Signing Nash wasn't a bad idea btw. Dude came off an all-star season and was the best pick-and-roll ballhandler in the league with the best roll-man in the league. Unfortunately Dwight didn't want to do pick and roll (like the idiot he was/is) and Nash broke his leg early, which essentially ended his career as it gave him nerve-issues in his back.

The biggest mistake that season was implementing the **** Princeton offense and not adding depth when guys went down. Dwight had his shoulder stuff and Pau had foot issues. Should have added Chris Anderson, Ronnie Brewer and Delonte West at min. deals to keep us afloat. Once Kobe went down they should have traded Pau whose value was super high. They should have done a s/t with Dwight. And they should have let Kobe come back before giving him that insane 2yr extension. Then tank like hellf for a top pick (the Wiggins draft) and retooled the following summer.

AD will stay a Laker.

[Anderson Hunt]

I don't know enough about LaMelo to agree or disagree with him qualifying. I wouldn't get Ingram, Personally.

If you had to pick ...

Lavine OR Ingram ???

LaVine. Believe it or not, after next season LaVine will have the better contract than Ingram, and more importantly, LaVine is the better off-ball scorer. Ingram's game is predicated on dribbling a lot without getting others involved.

Either one, however, is better than holding onto Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, and Vincent.

[Anderson Hunt]

The bottom line is that the Lakers have two stars but neither is a closer. Neither James nor Davis can be relied upon to score down the stretch as a game-breaker. Davis is best served as a number two scorer, and James is best served as a number three scorer.

If the goal is to make one last run with James and Davis, the Lakers need a stone-scorer, a guy who can average 25 a game, close games down the stretch, and is physically capable of defending at an average level.

He doesn't have to be a leader. He doesn't even have to be designated the best player on the team. He just needs to put the ball in the basket at a very high level, shoot around 40 percent from three on high volume, and defend his man at a passable level (better than Reaves and Russell).

Out of guys who are reported to be on the block, Simons qualifies, LaVine qualifies, Beal qualifies, Ingram qualifies, Herro qualifies, and LaMelo Ball qualifies.

Would be interesting to see if Lakers had pulled the trigger on Kyrie. He has redeemed himself alot more than most expected. Seems a no-brainer looking back now. But back then, it sure seemed risky. I'm pretty sure I was against it.

I don't know enough about LaMelo to agree or disagree with him qualifying. I wouldn't get Ingram, Personally.

I absolutely hated the idea of adding Kyrie based on the fact that all teams he played on since his title win Lebron probably regretted getting him. Maybe he only works well when there's a legit #1 option ahead of him (first Lebron, then Luka).

Kyrie Irving is and always has been exactly what the James/Davis duo needed.

I would've moved hell and earth to get him from Brooklyn. Ironically, it cost Dallas very, very little.

The Lakers don't know how to take advantage of teams who want their player off their roster. Brooklyn wanted Irving off their team as badly as Chicago wants LaVine off theirs and as badly as Phoenix wants Beal off their roster.

[DanishLakerFan]

Would be interesting to see if Lakers had pulled the trigger on Kyrie. He has redeemed himself alot more than most expected. Seems a no-brainer looking back now. But back then, it sure seemed risky. I'm pretty sure I was against it.

I don't know enough about LaMelo to agree or disagree with him qualifying. I wouldn't get Ingram, Personally.

I absolutely hated the idea of adding Kyrie based on the fact that all teams he played on since his title win Lebron probably regretted getting him. Maybe he only works well when there's a legit #1 option ahead of him (first Lebron, then Luka).

Kyrie Irving is and always has been exactly what the James/Davis duo needed.

I would've moved hell and earth to get him from Brooklyn. Ironically, it cost Dallas very, very little.

The Lakers don't know how to take advantage of teams who want their player off their roster. Brooklyn wanted Irving off their team as badly as Chicago wants LaVine off theirs and as badly as Phoenix wants Beal off their roster.

Maybe you are right.
But i think it was fair to be sceptical based on his recent antics. Going on a mid-season hiatus, being one of the main reasons why the Harden-KD-Kyrie experiment went down the drain, leaving Boston on bad terms etc. Dont think anyone expected him to suddently bounce back like he did. Well at least i didnt.

[danfantastk32]

Maybe you are right.

But i think it was fair to be sceptical based on his recent antics. Going on a mid-season hiatus, being one of the main reasons why the Harden-KD-Kyrie experiment went down the drain, leaving Boston on bad terms etc. Dont think anyone expected him to suddently bounce back like he did. Well at least i didnt.

This is about how I feel. Kyrie is one of the most talented players in the league, and we could have got him really cheap. But on the flip-side.....there was a reason he was so cheap. He certainly didn't help Boston or Brooklyn improve. So there was definitely reasons to not want him here.

There were guys who said Lebron would be able to keep him in line and focused. I guess that's prob true....but who knows with that guy, you know? He's a bit of mystery.

Either way...spilt milk. Dallas seems to be a good situation for him. I could see him burning that bridge for no reason, just as likely as him having an MVP like year, and making another deep run. That seems to be the Kyrie show.

[danfantastk32]

Kyrie Irving is and always has been exactly what the James/Davis duo needed.

It's pretty close, I'll give you that. I think the issue you will see with Kyrie, is he needs to eat like a number 1. Taking 18-19 shots a game has to come from somewhere. Secondly, he's kinda useless if he's not scoring.

I always felt Paul George or Klay would have been the perfect fit (injuries aside). Both are more spot up shooters. Both play defense at a high level (again injuries aside) so wouldn't be wasted space if they couldn't shoot so much. And lastly....I just feel like you can have that conversation with both Paul and Klay about sacrificing some shots to make the 3-headed monster thing work...and it would go ok. Now....I get that shooting, and points scored is a big deal. Contracts are won and lost in this league, mainly based on PPG. So no...Paul and Klay will have some push back...it would be a 3-way sacrifice from Lebron, AD and Paul/Klay....but I just think it can be done.

I could see you talking to Kyrie, and having him say "yeah no problem"...and then taking 27 shots the next game. Could be wrong, but that just seems to be his style. All are about equal from 3...so I'd take the defense, and little less need to ball-handle/create like Kyrie does. I'd prob pass on Klay at this point though. PG would be the best fit now. Kyrie def checks a ton of boxes though...don't get me wrong. He's high on the list.

Will be interesting to see the Klay, Kyrie, and Luca show. I wouldn't expect to see the ball much if I'm any other player. Honestly, it feels like offensive firepower wasn't Dallas' issue. If Klay still has that D....maybe it could be a match made in heaven. But if Klay can't guard like he used to....I think this could be a subtraction.

[Godfather13]

What?

You've been saying that for 2 years, but yet choose to use the Lakers record as an indictment against AD-Lebron alone? That makes sense

And you did a Kamala about the coaching thing. Can you rephrase?

Bud...you got the obsession with Lebron not me. I get that you take anything I say as an indictment against Lebron and AD....but that's your own mental hoola-hoops at work. My issue is 100% whether this team can win another title. I don't care if the Pope is on our team...if he can't win us a title, then I'll move his ass for draft picks too.

We're not paying Lebron and AD a $100mil a year, so we could get boners watching the olympic team....we wanna see titles with the LAKERS. Nobody's indicting anyone....your trying to throw Olympic stats and glory into the discussion about the state of the Lakers, and I ain't having it. The Laker record is the record of relevance to this discussion. If that makes no sense to you, go take up knitting...I can't help you.

And I don't know what the F your talking about with Kamala.....I think you need sunlight. Vogel won a title with us...so go figure that one out as well.

Yup. Any outcome other than a win in the Olympics would be the sports story of the year. It's not relevant in the NBA. Great, our players did good. It's like being obsessed with how they did in the All Start Game.

If you have 2 players you won't move and continually rebuild around for 4 years it seems that the results of said 4 years is relevant in evaluating those decisions. Well... in a reasoned conversation that is.

I do love the Kamala comment however. Not for the reasons he posted it but in the context of his entire "unburdened" 40 post rant.

Enjoying the losers circle jerk I see

[danfantastk32]

Enjoying the losers circle jerk I see

Quite the zinger...truly inspiring. I believe I called you a 3rd rate troll, but perhaps I was too generous.

[stan francisco]

Kylor Kelly was added on an exhibit 10 deal. 7’0” C from Maine G-League. Assuming that the Celtics stank wears off quickly enough, does anybody know if he’s any good or is he a stiff?

Celtic trolls, see sig.

[danfantastk32]

Kylor Kelly was added on an exhibit 10 deal. 7’0” C from Maine G-League. Assuming that the Celtics stank wears off quickly enough, does anybody know if he’s any good or is he a stiff?

Celtic trolls, see sig.

Well considering they waived him, and he couldn't do better than this.....you gotta assume he's not very good. But that doesn't mean he can't improve, and we certainly could use a 7-footer.

[stan francisco]

Kylor Kelly was added on an exhibit 10 deal. 7’0” C from Maine G-League. Assuming that the Celtics stank wears off quickly enough, does anybody know if he’s any good or is he a stiff?

Celtic trolls, see sig.

Well considering they waived him, and he couldn't do better than this.....you gotta assume he's not very good. But that doesn't mean he can't improve, and we certainly could use a 7-footer.

Kylor Kelley: 215(!) pounds 7’0”. Long arms, 2.9BPG in G league. I always wanted a shot blocker next to AD. Let’s hope he’s good enough to trade one of Wood/Hayes/Castleton.

PnR and lobs seems to be his offense.

[danfantastk32]

Kylor Kelly was added on an exhibit 10 deal. 7’0” C from Maine G-League. Assuming that the Celtics stank wears off quickly enough, does anybody know if he’s any good or is he a stiff?

Celtic trolls, see sig.

Well considering they waived him, and he couldn't do better than this.....you gotta assume he's not very good. But that doesn't mean he can't improve, and we certainly could use a 7-footer.

Kylor Kelley: 215(!) pounds 7’0”. Long arms, 2.9BPG in G league. I always wanted a shot blocker next to AD. Let’s hope he’s good enough to trade one of Wood/Hayes/Castleton.

PnR and lobs seems to be his offense.

We def need more size down there...so thats a good thing. Let's hope he plugs some holes.

[stan francisco]

Well considering they waived him, and he couldn't do better than this.....you gotta assume he's not very good. But that doesn't mean he can't improve, and we certainly could use a 7-footer.

Kylor Kelley: 215(!) pounds 7’0”. Long arms, 2.9BPG in G league. I always wanted a shot blocker next to AD. Let’s hope he’s good enough to trade one of Wood/Hayes/Castleton.

PnR and lobs seems to be his offense.

We def need more size down there...so thats a good thing. Let's hope he plugs some holes.

I have a good feeling about this guy, even if he’s a twig and a bit rough. Defensive instincts and ability to read plays and anticipate blocks with great timing seems to be his thing. Looking forward to seeing what he can do next to AD and LBJ. Lob city.

[DanishLakerFan]

Collin Sexton and Walker Kessler for D'Lo, JHS, Lewis, Hayes and a FRP.
Dorian Finney-Smith for Vanderbilt, Reddish + 2 2nd rounders.

PG Sexton / Vincent
SG Reaves / Max
SF DFS / Knecht
PF Lebron / Rui
C AD / Kessler / Wood

In 2026 its basicaly AD, Reaves, Max, Kessler's low cap hold and room for a max player.