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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#221 » by Broadcaster » Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:04 pm

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Broadcaster wrote: Only a spoiled fan base would feel that way about getting a generational player for an over the hill star. How gluttonous. Some teams have never had a player as good as Luka. I think you don’t even really deserve him.


Gluttonous doesn't begin to describe it. Your whiny tears are like droplets of gold.


You are only making my point for me.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#222 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:23 pm

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Broadcaster wrote: Only a spoiled fan base would feel that way about getting a generational player for an over the hill star. How gluttonous. Some teams have never had a player as good as Luka. I think you don’t even really deserve him.


Gluttonous doesn't begin to describe it. Your whiny tears are like droplets of gold.


You are only making my point for me.


Take tonight's game....playing a 13-39 garbage team. Tickets a $200 bucks for nose-bleed. $4-500 for something decent. And of course you got $25-30 for parking (thats some shady lot 3 blocks away of course) and any food/drinks are gonna run you $50 each.

So your looking at $500 bucks to take you and your chick to watch a BARF game. Closer to a grand if you wanted "nice" seats. Don't even get people started if they "god forbid" wanted to bring their family. <-------your looking at the cost of what literally would be a "family vacation" when I was a kid.....and we're talking upper-deck seats here. Against the 13-39 garbage-ass Hornets!

So F** no....Luka ain't shown me nothing yet. Nice player. Better work off the fat, and win a title. I really couldn't care less how those optics resonate for you....but for the $$$ they charge here, so these guys can make north of $50mil a year....He's a disappointment until I see a title...simple as.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#223 » by Broadcaster » Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:26 pm

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Gluttonous doesn't begin to describe it. Your whiny tears are like droplets of gold.


You are only making my point for me.


Take tonight's game....playing a 13-39 garbage team. Tickets a $200 bucks for nose-bleed. $4-500 for something decent. And of course you got $25-30 for parking (thats some shady lot 3 blocks away of course) and any food/drinks are gonna run you $50 each.

So your looking at $500 bucks to take you and your chick to watch a BARF game. Closer to a grand if you wanted "nice" seats. Don't even get people started if they "god forbid" wanted to bring their family. <-------your looking at the cost of what literally would be a "family vacation" when I was a kid.....and we're talking upper-deck seats here. Against the 13-39 garbage-ass Hornets!

So F** no....Luka ain't shown me nothing yet. Nice player. Better work off the fat, and win a title. I really couldn't care less how those optics resonate for you....but for the $$$ they charge here, so these guys can make north of $50mil a year....He's a disappointment until I see a title...simple as.


You have no concept for how spoiled you are. Hopefully one day you can see.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#224 » by stan francisco » Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:29 pm

For the Lakers, it’s championship or bust. AND long term. All at the same time. Spoiled? Sure, give it whatever brand you want. Happy now?

Watch defense! Remember what I said about Max Christie. And watch AD be a monster defensive PF next to Lively and Gafford at C.

Who is to say they don’t win it all this year and next if AD is healthy? It’ll be fun to see how it doesn’t play out. He’s a great playmaker, too.

Luka’s offense is savant levels. Is his defense? We’ll see.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#225 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:39 pm

Broadcaster wrote:You have no concept for how spoiled you are. Hopefully one day you can see.


Said the pot to the kettle. And yet you whine, and cry...which makes you the truly ungrateful one.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#226 » by Broadcaster » Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:59 pm

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Broadcaster wrote:You have no concept for how spoiled you are. Hopefully one day you can see.


Said the pot to the kettle. And yet you whine, and cry...which makes you the truly ungrateful one.


I’m not ungrateful. I don’t even have any allegiance to any team. I appreciate basketball. I don’t appreciate people who are so used to getting their way that they’ve become fat with privilege and completely unaware at the same time. Basketball tickets are expensive mostly everywhere. That doesn’t give you the right to expect a championship. You’re lucky you have so many. Most other franchises would love to have one or the chance at another and most franchises would feel incredibly lucky to acquire Luka Doncic for pennies on the dollar. You definitely don’t deserve to win anymore than any of them. You could lose for the next fifty years and you’d still come out ahead.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#227 » by stan francisco » Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:10 pm

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danfantastk32 wrote:
Broadcaster wrote:You have no concept for how spoiled you are. Hopefully one day you can see.


Said the pot to the kettle. And yet you whine, and cry...which makes you the truly ungrateful one.


I’m not ungrateful. I don’t even have any allegiance to any team. I appreciate basketball. I don’t appreciate people who are so used to getting their way that they’ve become fat with privilege and completely unaware at the same time. Basketball tickets are expensive mostly everywhere. That doesn’t give you the right to expect a championship. You’re lucky you have so many. Most other franchises would love to have one or the chance at another and most franchises would feel incredibly lucky to acquire Luka Doncic for pennies on the dollar. You definitely don’t deserve to win anymore than any of them. You could lose for the next fifty years and you’d still come out ahead.


Getting their way?

I’m an AD fan but I was completely against giving up Ingram, Hart, Lonzo, Kuzma, Caruso and picks to get AD. What are you talking about?

I didn’t get what I wanted. I still argue we would’ve been better off with a roster of Caruso, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, LeBron and even Lonzo,

AD for Luka better effing pay off!!!

I’d trade Luka for those five in a heartbeat.

Go to the general board and bitch there.

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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#228 » by BEazy » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:55 am

Why do opposing fan bases get mad at the team that simply accepted the deal presented to them? The Mavs’ GM put the offer on the table, but somehow we’re the ones who “stole” him. How does that add up?
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Post#229 » by Jedi32 » Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:54 pm

BEazy wrote:Why do opposing fan bases get mad at the team that simply accepted the deal presented to them? The Mavs’ GM put the offer on the table, but somehow we’re the ones who “stole” him. How does that add up?

Because for all the stupid posts about the Lakers not being ran right, they always seem to bounce back in decent fashion.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#230 » by stan francisco » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:02 pm

Apologies to the whole Lakers world for at first being too negative about the Luka signing. Trading AD better pay off, though. If we edge out Dallas this season, I’ll make sure to serve myself a healthy portion of crow here. Defense. Peace.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#231 » by wco81 » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:46 pm

It's only been 3 games and he will likely revert to the mean and put up MVP numbers, if not the remaining games of this season, then next season.

Presumably he will have keys to the store so he will play with the same usage, style and shot attempts he had with the Mavs, even with Lebron on the team.

But the Lakers are facing a decision later THIS YEAR to offer him the max.

IF he struggles the remaining 25-30 games, do they still offer him the max extension?

Otherwise, he would potentially be a UFA in the summer of 2026 because he has a $49 million player option for 2026-27 season. So I believe the Lakers would have until some time in October or early November to offer him an extension and for him to accept or reject it.

If he doesn't sign an extension, he would become a UFA in July 2026. Of course the Lakers could sign him then but then so could other teams with cap space.

So they have a pretty limited number of games to see what kind of production he has with the Lakers before a big milestone (this fall). Of course, arguably, his past performance means that Lakers HAVE to sign him one way or another.

But his contract also has a bearing on other players too. Lebron has a player option this summer on $52.6 million for 2025-26. No doubt he will opt into that, because he's not leaving LA. Also, his younger son may even be draft eligible in April 2026? So he may want the Lakers to draft him as well.

But the biggest impact Luka will have on the roster is Austin Reaves, who's on a bargain contract now. AR was having his highest scoring season (though he was more efficient last season). His minutes are up, his FGA, 3PA and FTAs are all up to career highs. Highest average assists as well.

But most of these numbers were BEFORE the trade.

AR has a player option just under $15 million for 2026-2027. That means in July 2026, he can opt out and look for a bigger contract, either with the Lakers or another team. Again, I guess the Lakers can offer him an extension this fall?

Potentially Luka and AR could both be UFAs in July 2026. Obviously the Lakers won't allow either to walk. Will extend or trade one or both. But AR is going to command a contract probably north of $35 million if not $40 million a year, given where his production was before the trade.

If he stays on the Lakers, he likely won't get the same usage rate, at least not with LBJ and Luka on the team. Lakers can keep him but maybe he goes from 34.6 MPG to like 25-30 MPG? And he doesn't get 13.8 FGAs per game but more like 10-11?

So how much would the Lakers pay him if he is to have a reduced role?

Or he may not want to stay if he sees his usage, minutes and shots cut back.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#232 » by Apz » Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:12 pm

Luka might very well demand a snt this summer. Dont think he have any trust in pelinka for colluding with nico to get him out of dallas. And he doesnt play with joy at all like he used to and seems uncomfortable in the system. Think he want back to texas so wouldnt surprise me if lakers get a real low return, like fox or fvv. But we will see how the season goes from now and what pieces they can land before 2nd august to convince him to commit
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Post#233 » by BEazy » Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:30 am

Man, Mavs fans are ridiculous. Nico was the one who took the deal to Pelinka. Rob didn’t “collude” with anyone. This is hilarious.
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Post#234 » by Apz » Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:57 am

BEazy wrote:Man, Mavs fans are ridiculous. Nico was the one who took the deal to Pelinka. Rob didn’t “collude” with anyone. This is hilarious.


Did pelinka talk to luka? No? So he and nico made a secret deal, in other words colluding. What u read into it doesnt matter, what matters is what Luka tjinks. And he sure aint happy
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#235 » by BEazy » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:22 pm

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BEazy wrote:Man, Mavs fans are ridiculous. Nico was the one who took the deal to Pelinka. Rob didn’t “collude” with anyone. This is hilarious.


Did pelinka talk to luka? No? So he and nico made a secret deal, in other words colluding. What u read into it doesnt matter, what matters is what Luka tjinks. And he sure aint happy


That’s a ridiculous reach. There’s zero evidence that Pelinka and Nico Harrison made some secret deal or colluded. Front offices handle trades, not players, deal with it. FYI Pelinka asked Nico Harrison if he could talk to Luka's agent, AND your dumbass GM said no. You’re just salty and desperate for Luka to leave because you can’t stand the Lakers. But guess what? He looked happy in practice and had no problem hugging Pelinka right after his first game.

And let’s be real, you’re acting like Pelinka is the villain when, in reality, the Lakers are embracing Luka, and he’s thriving in LA. Meanwhile, your trash franchise trades players because they think they’re “fat”… pathetic.
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Post#236 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:07 pm

If he wanted a S&T - and we got a grip of picks, it wouldn't be the worst thing, IMO.

But I think your reaching pretty hard. It's been like 2 games! There's no way he's already "unhappy". He's prob not happy with the fact that he's like 2-19 from the three. He's also gotta adjust to life with Lebron.

Very interesting watching Reeves when he's the #1 or #2 option. Would like to see him play a couple games next to Luka, with Lebron out. If it goes well....this could be very intriguing, moving forward. If the magic is more about Lebron and Reeves....then I'd showcase that a bit throughout the rest of the year, and try and move him this offseason. Either way....it's a massive opportunity that didn't exist a couple weeks ago. Good to see some options opening up.
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Post#237 » by Apz » Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:47 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:If he wanted a S&T - and we got a grip of picks, it wouldn't be the worst thing, IMO.

But I think your reaching pretty hard. It's been like 2 games! There's no way he's already "unhappy". He's prob not happy with the fact that he's like 2-19 from the three. He's also gotta adjust to life with Lebron.

Very interesting watching Reeves when he's the #1 or #2 option. Would like to see him play a couple games next to Luka, with Lebron out. If it goes well....this could be very intriguing, moving forward. If the magic is more about Lebron and Reeves....then I'd showcase that a bit throughout the rest of the year, and try and move him this offseason. Either way....it's a massive opportunity that didn't exist a couple weeks ago. Good to see some options opening up.


Dont think u can expect a griö of picks. He were just traded, and will be expiring. Think it would be like fox + a first or fvv and a 1st
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#238 » by danfantastk32 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:16 am

Apz wrote: Dont think u can expect a griö of picks. He were just traded, and will be expiring. Think it would be like fox + a first or fvv and a 1st


I was responding to your post about 5 up that you think Luka will want a SNT (assume that's sign n trade??). I disagree with him being unhappy, but if he is, I think a S&T would be the most reasonable. So he wouldn't be an expiring...in fact, you'd be getting a full contract. So I do think a nice package of picks would be expected.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#239 » by BEazy » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:20 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
Apz wrote: Dont think u can expect a griö of picks. He were just traded, and will be expiring. Think it would be like fox + a first or fvv and a 1st


I was responding to your post about 5 up that you think Luka will want a SNT (assume that's sign n trade??). I disagree with him being unhappy, but if he is, I think a S&T would be the most reasonable. So he wouldn't be an expiring...in fact, you'd be getting a full contract. So I do think a nice package of picks would be expected.


No use responding to this guy. He’s just a Laker hater. Most Mavs fans are.
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Re: Shams: Luka Doncic to the Lakers 

Post#240 » by Apz » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:48 pm

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danfantastk32 wrote:
Apz wrote: Dont think u can expect a griö of picks. He were just traded, and will be expiring. Think it would be like fox + a first or fvv and a 1st


I was responding to your post about 5 up that you think Luka will want a SNT (assume that's sign n trade??). I disagree with him being unhappy, but if he is, I think a S&T would be the most reasonable. So he wouldn't be an expiring...in fact, you'd be getting a full contract. So I do think a nice package of picks would be expected.


No use responding to this guy. He’s just a Laker hater. Most Mavs fans are.


Im not a laker hater, not sure what u get that from? Im just being realistic.

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