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Official 2015 NBA Draft Discussion Thread [ft. TyCobb]

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Who will win the national championship?

Wisconsin
6
25%
Kentucky
7
29%
Duke
9
38%
Michigan state
2
8%
 
Total votes: 24

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Post#241 » by TyCobb » Sat Feb 7, 2015 7:33 pm

Duke is really, really good now that Winslow has found his groove.
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Post#242 » by Optms » Sun Feb 8, 2015 12:58 am

Karl Towns or bust.
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Post#243 » by TyCobb » Sun Feb 8, 2015 2:29 am

Bill Walton can't stand Alford Jr. :lol:

When Looney adds some strength/weight he's gonna be unstoppable. Looney is an excellent pick and roll player. Man...
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Post#244 » by Slava » Sun Feb 8, 2015 3:58 am

Not sure how no one made a Looney - Webber comparison yet. Hes not a 3, he's surely going to be a 4 but I wouldn't mind him and Randle as the two forwards either. Looney's shooting stroke is nice enough that with a bit of seasoning, he might stretch it out to the corner 3, same with Randle.

By the way the more I see of Cauley Stein, the more I like. Hands like glue and a tough ass competitor on defense, watching him switch onto some guards vs Florida on the pick and rolls.
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Post#245 » by DEEP3CL » Sun Feb 8, 2015 9:57 pm

TyCobb wrote:Duke is really, really good now that Winslow has found his groove.
Winslow was impressive as hell yesterday. I love his intensity and even though he's touted as an offensive guy, NBA coaching could tap into his defensive side. He could be a heck of a 2-3 guy that could check 2's and 3's.
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Post#246 » by DEEP3CL » Sun Feb 8, 2015 9:59 pm

Optms wrote:Karl Towns or bust.
He'd be consolation if we don't land Jahlil. Got a chance to really compare both yesterday. Jahlil may end up being the better offensive guy and Karl may end up being the better defender who can give decent offense.
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
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Post#247 » by Michael Lucky » Mon Feb 9, 2015 12:11 am

Russell may end up challenging Okafor with the top pick at the rate he's going.
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Post#248 » by moonpie » Mon Feb 9, 2015 12:24 am

8 minutes to go in the second half, and Russell has 21/7/10 on 7-11 shooting (3-6 3PT).
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Post#249 » by moonpie » Mon Feb 9, 2015 12:33 am

There's the triple dub for Russell-23/10/11 with 4 to go (only 1 turnover btw)
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Post#250 » by Michael Lucky » Mon Feb 9, 2015 12:49 am

Far harder to get a triple double in the college game over the NBA on top of it. Can't remember a freshmen guard putting up these types of numbers his first year.
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Post#251 » by No-Man » Mon Feb 9, 2015 4:49 pm

Russell is cracking the top3, Towns is no more there, Jah, Manny and D'Russ.
After those 3, there is a group of 8 guys, where the differences are not so high.
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Post#252 » by crazyeights » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:37 pm

Here's a really interesting SportVU breakdown of Okafor:
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/SportVU-Insight-on-Jahlil-Okafor-as-a-College-Player-and-NBA-Prospect-4808/

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There's also videos on that page that breakdown his offense/defense.
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Post#253 » by Slava » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:40 pm

Great find, 1.3 points per possession on post ups is amazing efficiency, from those numbers he genuinely seems like a guy you can run your offense through.
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Post#254 » by crazyeights » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:00 pm

Yeah I hadn't seen any Duke games this year until recently.

The thing that struck me was how much they ran it through Jahlil when he wasn't really looking to score. It's been a while since I've seen inside-out basketball :laugh:

Defensively he looks unmotivated. Athletically he reminds me of Pau. But even as flawed as parts of Pau's game is, the dude is a high-impact player. Sometimes you have to remember these guys are 18/19 years old.

Watched these highlights of Mudiay too...crazy to think he's 18. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Emmanuel-Mudiay-6472/
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Post#255 » by Slava » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:10 pm

Really can't judge mudiay when he is running around 150 lb Chinese guys and basically looking like he is coasting at a YMCA game.
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Post#256 » by LApwnd » Mon Feb 9, 2015 8:42 pm

TyCobb wrote:Bill Walton can't stand Alford Jr. :lol:

When Looney adds some strength/weight he's gonna be unstoppable. Looney is an excellent pick and roll player. Man...


think we can find a way to trade up for him? Don't think he's a top 5 pick candidate yet right?
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Post#257 » by TyCobb » Mon Feb 9, 2015 11:22 pm

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TyCobb wrote:Bill Walton can't stand Alford Jr. :lol:

When Looney adds some strength/weight he's gonna be unstoppable. Looney is an excellent pick and roll player. Man...


think we can find a way to trade up for him? Don't think he's a top 5 pick candidate yet right?



#5 is up for grabs. Okafor, Towns, Russell, and Mudiay are absolute locks for top 4. It's between Stanley Johnson, Mario Hezonja, and Kevon Looney for that 5 spot.

I think Looney is gonna be a late-riser on the rest of boards and mocks once his measurements come in.
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Post#258 » by Mirjalovic » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:48 am

i like Tyus Jones

if somehow we landed him with Rockets pick i'd happy
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Post#259 » by laduane1 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:24 am

Hope Lakers can hold onto the pick. If it falls 3rd or 4th or 5th. Another team can jump up in the lottery and push the pick under 5 Lakers would loose it. Only way to make sure the pick is not lost is #1 or #2 over all.

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Post#260 » by aaron_gray » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:29 am

How is Mudiay a lock for the top 4
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