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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#241 » by Hank7 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:12 am

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Hank7 wrote:We're the Lakers ... and we're thinking of hiring Juwan Howard? Has he ever been a head coach anywhere?


Pat Riley was a broadcaster when he was hired. Find a new slant.


Riley was hired as an ASSISTANT COACH when he first coached with the Lakers in 1979.

Slava, I'd appreciate it if you do not respond to my posts. I'm interested in hearing from others though.
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#242 » by Spanish_Laker » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:31 pm

Just make LeBron the head coach / player and end this drama already.
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#243 » by kobe808lak » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:34 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:Just make LeBron the head coach / player and end this drama already.


Make him:

Player / Coach / GM / President / Owner / Commissioner / and lead Team Physician.. I mean why not right?
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#244 » by dockingsched » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:18 pm

Part 1 of LakersFilmRoom’s breakdown of Lue’s offense, worth a look and kind of encouraging.

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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#245 » by tamaraw08 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:27 pm

Hank7 wrote:
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Hank7 wrote:We're the Lakers ... and we're thinking of hiring Juwan Howard? Has he ever been a head coach anywhere?


Pat Riley was a broadcaster when he was hired. Find a new slant.


Riley was hired as an ASSISTANT COACH when he first coached with the Lakers in 1979.

Slava, I'd appreciate it if you do not respond to my posts. I'm interested in hearing from others though.

Most great coaches started out as an assistant to the HC and it's "possible" that Juwan might turned out to be a very good coach but there's also a possibility that he may turn out to be a dud. One good sign is that Riley has retained him as an assistant for a few years now. I heard that Pat would fire incompetent personnel before.
Personally, I was really hoping that they would retain Luke but right now, I would prefer a head tactician who has been there before. Someone who actually won. I am a bit confused that most fans here are very hesitant to hire Lue, possibly because they think he is a Lebron puppet. I find this narrative of Lebron actually coaching the Cavs a bit crazy cuz they give way too much credit to Lebron for beating the 73 win GSW and managing to be top 5 in ORTG AFTER trading Kyrie for the injured Thomas.
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#246 » by tamaraw08 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:49 pm

dockingsched wrote:Part 1 of LakersFilmRoom’s breakdown of Lue’s offense, worth a look and kind of encouraging.

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the Lakers’ spacing struggles were a chicken-or-the-egg question of whether or not the team’s spacing was terrible this season because they didn’t have good shooters, or if they didn’t have good shooters because the spacing was terrible.

The answer to both of those questions is yes. Luke Walton’s schemes exacerbated an obvious roster flaw by putting too many bodies in the paint, impacting not only shooters but the driving lanes that the Lakers were supposed to exploit to create open shots. Lue’s offense rarely puts that many bodies in the paint, and both LeBron James and Brandon Ingram would benefit from fewer help defenders around the rim.

I actually prefer Lue over Monty and Howard but I disagree with the bolded part wrote by writer of laker film room, suggesting that Luke's schemes made the spacing worst. Luke wanted a stretch-5 Brook Lopez to return, MGT says no, they will get a non shooting center Mcgee instead.
Luke tried to play small by playing Kuzma at the center spot to get more spacing but they got overpowered inside. MGT adjusted by acquiring ANOTHER non shooting center in Tyson Chandler. All of their centers INCLUDING Zubac could NOT shoot and therefore space the floor.
I however couldn't access the tweet so I read this up on another site. https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/4/22/18509538/laker-film-room-spacing-principles-ty-lue-bring-lakers-video-breakdown-youtube-lebron-james-shooters but I wonder how did it with Tristan Thompson, his non shooting center.
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#247 » by mighty_duck » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:39 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:I disagree with the bolded part wrote by writer of laker film room, suggesting that Luke's schemes made the spacing worst.

Exactly. Magic intentionally looked for playmakers at the expense of shooters. It wasn't like they were great shooters before, and then became bad because of Luke. In fact, guys like Lance and Rondo shot far better than their career average from three (but were still below average).

The clips citing Cleveland's spacing feature lineups with 4 shooters around Lebron (with Love or Channing Frye at center). They conveniently didn't feature all the times when Tristan Thompson was in there.
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#248 » by Goudelock » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:53 pm

Igor Kokoskov is now available. I've heard some decent things about him from an Xs and Os standpoint.
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#249 » by dockingsched » Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:53 pm

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tamaraw08 wrote:I disagree with the bolded part wrote by writer of laker film room, suggesting that Luke's schemes made the spacing worst.

Exactly. Magic intentionally looked for playmakers at the expense of shooters. It wasn't like they were great shooters before, and then became bad because of Luke. In fact, guys like Lance and Rondo shot far better than their career average from three (but were still below average).

The clips citing Cleveland's spacing feature lineups with 4 shooters around Lebron (with Love or Channing Frye at center). They conveniently didn't feature all the times when Tristan Thompson was in there.


He didn’t “conveniently” not feature all the times when Tristan was in there, he literally said part 2 of the series will focus on how they maintained spacing even with a non-shooting big.
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#250 » by BEazy » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:56 pm

We were never going to give Monty or other coaching candidates a chance. We’re just doing other coaching interviews for due diligence. Freaking Tyronn Lue is going to be the next head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers...

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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#251 » by dockingsched » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:36 pm

God damnit

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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#252 » by Danny Darko » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:56 pm

dockingsched wrote:God damnit

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Re: Next coach search: Meeting with Lue/Monty/Juwan/Kidd 

Post#253 » by Kilroy » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:00 pm

Lakers fans dying the death of 1000 cuts right now...
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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#254 » by snaquille oatmeal » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:12 pm

Hank7 wrote:
Slava wrote:
Hank7 wrote:We're the Lakers ... and we're thinking of hiring Juwan Howard? Has he ever been a head coach anywhere?


Pat Riley was a broadcaster when he was hired. Find a new slant.


Riley was hired as an ASSISTANT COACH when he first coached with the Lakers in 1979.

Slava, I'd appreciate it if you do not respond to my posts. I'm interested in hearing from others though.

Pat Riley was broadcaster when he was hired. He was the Stu to Chick back then.
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Re: Next coach search: Meeting with Lue/Monty/Juwan/Kidd 

Post#255 » by machine18 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:12 pm

Long time lurker; finally had to create an account because I foresee needing to partake in a group therapy of sorts for this upcoming season. The Kidd/Rambis report just deflated what little hope I was clinging to
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Re: Next coach search: Meeting with Lue/Monty/Juwan/Kidd 

Post#256 » by Pythagoras » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:14 pm

As my kids would say, this news has me “triggered”!

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Re: Next coach search: Plan to meet with Lue/Monty/Juwan 

Post#257 » by Sushisensei26 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:20 pm

dockingsched wrote:God damnit

Read on Twitter

Unreal.

Sigh.

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Welcome!! Yes... we are going to start a support group very soon. We're gonna meet and destroy a dot matrix printer with baseball bats every Wednesday. Bring your own bat or just go bare knuckle imagining the printer is Ty Lue's face.
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Re: Next coach search: Meeting with Lue/Monty/Juwan/Kidd 

Post#258 » by Kilroy » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:27 pm

Logic must be Kidd will mentor Ball to be the next him, and turn Ingram into the next Giannis...
Then we'll trade them both for AD.
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Re: Next coach search: Meeting with Lue/Monty/Juwan/Kidd 

Post#259 » by No name » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:31 pm

Due diligence
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Post#260 » by Michael Lucky » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:36 pm

This is horrible lol

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