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DanishLakerFan wrote:The two moves the Lakers have to make are:
Kessler for JHS + 1st.
and
Cam Johnson for D'Lo, Knecht and 1st.
Then pick up a FA PG, such as Fultz, Lonnie, Dennis Smith Jr. etc.
Reaves - Christie - Cam - Lebron - AD
Fultz - Vincent - Vando - Rui - Wood - Kessler
And trading Zubac for a bum who didn't last 2 months on the team while the Croatian is still on that team as their starting center.DanishLakerFan wrote:stan francisco wrote:WentzerWuver wrote:They don't need starters but better depth who can play solid defense like Caruso. It was a big mistake losing him. I think OKC may trade him for Gabe plus a future 1st, which is worth it imo. Then trade Dlo plus another 1st for stopper KCP.
https://youtu.be/A2FzGZzY3xM?si=9YjfWWDpHAMgECsd
These two glue guys won a Championship for the mighty Lakers. Bringing them back is the only way to win another one!
I hated losing Caruso. Would love to see him and KCP back. Maybe a third team is needed to make OKC better, too.
I agree. Such a complete waste. Letting Caruso go. Trading KCP for **** Westbrook. I really is amazing how poorly this team is managed. Wasted final years of Kobe's career. Had extreme draft-luck and managed to fall ass-backwards into Lebron and AD, just to waste those guys' time.
No way the Fleeced King would accept garbage like JHS. Danny boy would demand AR and Rui just to not hang up.DanishLakerFan wrote:The two moves the Lakers have to make are:
Kessler for JHS + 1st.
and
Cam Johnson for D'Lo, Knecht and 1st.
Then pick up a FA PG, such as Fultz, Lonnie, Dennis Smith Jr. etc.
Reaves - Christie - Cam - Lebron - AD
Fultz - Vincent - Vando - Rui - Wood - Kessler
on that one.
Why DO fans continues to forget they have to deal with the Fleeced King, so if the Lakers wants to hand over a King's Ransom for Kessler, then go for it but it will cost them both 1st round picks along with Rui, AR and Max. They don't want Dlo nor JHS, so you don't have to worry about losing ball handlers Lol. Keep in mind Kessler is a much better player than Gobert, who was also part of the fleeced from Minny. If I am Pelinka, I would deal with any other GM but Danny Boi.TylersLakers wrote:If you can get Kessler for JHS and draft compensation, you have to do it strictly because of the salaries alone.
I worry about sending out D-Lo and not getting someone who can handle the ball. D-Lo was invisible last night and Reaves was the primary playmaker when LeBron was off the court. It was a disaster because of Detroit's ball pressure and physicality. If Reaves is the only ball handler on the court, every team will follow that gameplan. It's happened a lot already this season with Austin and to a lesser extent D-Lo.
JHS, unprotect the 2027 pick, 2026 pick swap for Kessler
Roster:
Reaves/D-Lo/Gabe/Bronny/
Christie/Reddish/Lewis
Rui/Knecht/
LeBron/Vando (IL)
Davis/Kessler/Hayes (IL)/Wood (IL)
Two ways: Koloko, Traore, Olivari
The next move is where it gets interesting to me. I've always loved DFS but I love him more as a Rui replacement. If we lose D-Lo and we have Rui and DFS, I think that's a lot of duplication. I've been thinking a ton about Ingram lately. It seems like he has no market but we'll have to pay an unprotected 1st just for David Griffin to do business with us. We ended up absolutely wiping the floor with them in the AD trade and he'll want some get back for that.
Rui, D-Lo, Hayes, 2029 1st (unprotected) for Brandon Ingram, Javonte Green
PG: Reaves/Gabe/Bronny
SG: Christie/Green/Reddish/Lewis
SF: Ingram/Knecht/
PF: LeBron/Vando (IL)/
C: Davis/Kessler/Wood
With both of those moves, we're about $1M under the second apron. If Vando gets healthy, that's a team that I could legit see making a deep playoff run. Gabe is starting to look a lot better so that would give us a bonafide 8 guys who can play in the playoffs: LeBron, AD, Reaves, Ingram, Kessler, Vando, Gabe, Christie.
WentzerWuver wrote:Why DO fans continues to forget they have to deal with the Fleeced King, so if the Lakers wants to hand over a King's Ransom for Kessler, then go for it but it will cost them both 1st round picks along with Rui, AR and Max. They don't want Dlo nor JHS, so you don't have to worry about losing ball handlers Lol. Keep in mind Kessler is a much better player than Gobert, who was also part of the fleeced from Minny. If I am Pelinka, I would deal with any other GM but Danny Boi.TylersLakers wrote:If you can get Kessler for JHS and draft compensation, you have to do it strictly because of the salaries alone.
I worry about sending out D-Lo and not getting someone who can handle the ball. D-Lo was invisible last night and Reaves was the primary playmaker when LeBron was off the court. It was a disaster because of Detroit's ball pressure and physicality. If Reaves is the only ball handler on the court, every team will follow that gameplan. It's happened a lot already this season with Austin and to a lesser extent D-Lo.
JHS, unprotect the 2027 pick, 2026 pick swap for Kessler
Roster:
Reaves/D-Lo/Gabe/Bronny/
Christie/Reddish/Lewis
Rui/Knecht/
LeBron/Vando (IL)
Davis/Kessler/Hayes (IL)/Wood (IL)
Two ways: Koloko, Traore, Olivari
The next move is where it gets interesting to me. I've always loved DFS but I love him more as a Rui replacement. If we lose D-Lo and we have Rui and DFS, I think that's a lot of duplication. I've been thinking a ton about Ingram lately. It seems like he has no market but we'll have to pay an unprotected 1st just for David Griffin to do business with us. We ended up absolutely wiping the floor with them in the AD trade and he'll want some get back for that.
Rui, D-Lo, Hayes, 2029 1st (unprotected) for Brandon Ingram, Javonte Green
PG: Reaves/Gabe/Bronny
SG: Christie/Green/Reddish/Lewis
SF: Ingram/Knecht/
PF: LeBron/Vando (IL)/
C: Davis/Kessler/Wood
With both of those moves, we're about $1M under the second apron. If Vando gets healthy, that's a team that I could legit see making a deep playoff run. Gabe is starting to look a lot better so that would give us a bonafide 8 guys who can play in the playoffs: LeBron, AD, Reaves, Ingram, Kessler, Vando, Gabe, Christie.
https://youtube.com/shorts/myy0V8_X5To?si=I-9It_o0Snmmz0c0
I raised another trade 2 weeks ago where they can get both Caruso and KCP back for less than it would take to get Kessler.
DNP-Old wrote:WentzerWuver wrote:They don't need starters but better depth who can play solid defense like Caruso. It was a big mistake losing him. I think OKC may trade him for Gabe plus a future 1st, which is worth it imo. Then trade Dlo plus another 1st for stopper KCP.TylersLakers wrote:If the idea is to go for it and make a push with LeBron and AD for this year and next year.. what are the trades everyone wants to see?
https://youtu.be/A2FzGZzY3xM?si=9YjfWWDpHAMgECsd
These two glue guys won a Championship for the mighty Lakers. Bringing them back is the only way to win another one!
The money doesn't work on your trade. One of the teams will have to take on another player, Woods or JHS fit that bill. But having said, that there is no chance OKC makes the trade. They are one of the favorites to make the finals and are not going to take a lesser player for a 1st they don't need. They already control a dozen or so 1sts over the next 7 years.
DNP-Old wrote:Oh, and OKC just extended Caruso for 4yrs 80mil/
Doubt you ever watched Caruso closely when he was with the Lakers, key in helping them win the ship but only glanced at his current stats to justify your biased opinion. Glad you are not their GM.danfantastk32 wrote:DNP-Old wrote:Oh, and OKC just extended Caruso for 4yrs 80mil/
Overpaid in my opinion. $20 mil means more than it did a couple years ago with the new CBA.
5.5 points - 2.9 rebounds - 2.5 assists - shooting 37.7% ......pretty sub-par. He's a decent defender (decent...not great, or anything). Maybe I'll elevate it to "nice" defender....but nothing more.
Caruso is a good story. Love that he's carved a spot in the NBA. Happy for him that he just scored that contract....but he's not a $20mil player.
TylersLakers wrote:If you can get Kessler for JHS and draft compensation, you have to do it strictly because of the salaries alone.
I worry about sending out D-Lo and not getting someone who can handle the ball. D-Lo was invisible last night and Reaves was the primary playmaker when LeBron was off the court. It was a disaster because of Detroit's ball pressure and physicality. If Reaves is the only ball handler on the court, every team will follow that gameplan. It's happened a lot already this season with Austin and to a lesser extent D-Lo.
TylersLakers wrote:JHS, unprotect the 2027 pick, 2026 pick swap for Kessler
WentzerWuver wrote:Doubt you ever watched Caruso closely when he was with the Lakers, key in helping them win the ship but only glanced at his current stats to justify your biased opinion. Glad you are not their GM.danfantastk32 wrote:DNP-Old wrote:Oh, and OKC just extended Caruso for 4yrs 80mil/
Overpaid in my opinion. $20 mil means more than it did a couple years ago with the new CBA.
5.5 points - 2.9 rebounds - 2.5 assists - shooting 37.7% ......pretty sub-par. He's a decent defender (decent...not great, or anything). Maybe I'll elevate it to "nice" defender....but nothing more.
Caruso is a good story. Love that he's carved a spot in the NBA. Happy for him that he just scored that contract....but he's not a $20mil player.
WentzerWuver wrote: You prefer Dlo even tho he was the main reason why the Lakers was swept by the Nuggets, so let that simmer in for a bit.
WentzerWuver wrote: Caruso is just under utilized at OKC as he would be an immediate starter on the Lakers now. He is still underpaid even after this contract.
SlimShady83 wrote:TylersLakers wrote:If you can get Kessler for JHS and draft compensation, you have to do it strictly because of the salaries alone.
I worry about sending out D-Lo and not getting someone who can handle the ball. D-Lo was invisible last night and Reaves was the primary playmaker when LeBron was off the court. It was a disaster because of Detroit's ball pressure and physicality. If Reaves is the only ball handler on the court, every team will follow that gameplan. It's happened a lot already this season with Austin and to a lesser extent D-Lo.
I rarely If ever do this so take It as you want. Hope this Is readable, I'm just copying pasting from NBA.com LOL
Look at game DLO vs Det vs Sexton vs Det
DLO last 5 games
MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TOV PF +/-
DEC 23, 2024 LAL vs. DET L 15 5 1 5 20.0 1 4 25.0 2 2 100 0 0 0 5 0 0 2 1 -13
DEC 21, 2024 LAL @ SAC W 30 20 7 13 53.8 3 7 42.9 3 4 75.0 0 4 4 5 0 0 1 2 1
DEC 19, 2024 LAL @ SAC W 23 16 7 15 46.7 2 6 33.3 0 0 0.0 1 5 6 1 1 1 0 2 1
DEC 15, 2024 LAL vs. MEM W 17 7 2 7 28.6 2 6 33.3 1 2 50.0 0 3 3 2 1 0 3 1 -7
DEC 13, 2024 LAL @ MIN L 20 5 2 10 20.0 1 7 14.3 0 0 0.0 0 4 4 1 0 0 2 3 -8
Collin Sexton Last 5 games
DEC 23, 2024 UTA @ CLE L 36 24 10 22 45.5 4 10 40.0 0 0 0.0 1 2 3 5 1 0 4 3 -13
DEC 21, 2024 UTA @ BKN W 33 18 8 14 57.1 2 5 40.0 0 0 0.0 1 1 2 5 4 0 3 4 8
DEC 19, 2024 UTA @ DET W 36 30 9 15 60.0 5 7 71.4 7 9 77.8 2 4 6 7 3 0 10 4 7
DEC 16, 2024 UTA @ LAC L 24 15 7 10 70.0 1 2 50.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 -13
DEC 13, 2024 UTA vs. PHX L 24 6 2 9 22.2 0 3 0.0 2 2 100 1 2 3 2 0 0 3 2 -8
As I've said b4, I'm not high on Sexton, just a way to get Kessler while keeping Utah happy with the pics and Sexton seems to be at least consistent compared to DLO and he destroyed It vs DET - You can always trade sexton later down the road If he doesn't work out.
I just hope we can get Kessler and same time get rid of DLO ... That's all I really want anything after that Is aok LOL.
Edit: copy link for the last 5 games of each might be easier to read LOL
https://www.nba.com/player/1629012/collin-sexton
https://www.nba.com/player/1626156/dangelo-russell
TylersLakers wrote: If Sexton was making Gabe money, I'd be all in. But I think we need Kessler and _______ to be competitive and I think _______ needs to be someone who can handle and be a shot creator. Preferably with some size and athleticism. The only one I can come up with is Ingram.
TylersLakers wrote:I don't think Sexton moves the needle enough to give up the salary it would take to include him.
Why would the Jazz want Dlo back? Lol Lakers gave them a 1st round pick to bring him back after drafting him the first time and now hope Danny Boi take him back?SlimShady83 wrote:TylersLakers wrote:I don't think Sexton moves the needle enough to give up the salary it would take to include him.
If we can get Kessler, that's all I want - Sexton Is only 25 while DLO 28 and Sexton plays Defense, like I said you can always trade him later on. But as long as we can get Kessler I'm ok with anything really, just not another year of DLO
WentzerWuver wrote:Why would the Jazz want Dlo back? Lol Lakers gave them a 1st round pick to bring him back after drafting him the first time and now hope Danny Boi take him back?
, If I come up with one I'll mention I did . 