Trade Deadline thread: Nada... Nothing... Zip... WTF

[scoobs07]

Knicks seem like natural partners in a cost cutting trade for Westbrook if Lakers are willing to take on salary beyond the next two seasons. Fournier, Burks, Walker and Noel for Westbrook and a couple of minimum guys like Jordan and Bazemore would get done. We can turn around and shop THT, Nunn and pick for a bigger wing like Covington.

This addresses the shooting woes, but severely weakens the defense. Lakers would need to have a follow up trade to address defensive issues.

[scoobs07]

Lakers sort of end up with a lot of duplication with Walker/Monk/Fournier. All three are good shooters, but mediocre defenders at best. If such a trade is made, maybe Lakers should just deal Monk now, because they might not be able to afford him in the offseason anyway.

[Slava]

Lakers sort of end up with a lot of duplication with Walker/Monk/Fournier. All three are good shooters, but mediocre defenders at best. If such a trade is made, maybe Lakers should just deal Monk now, because they might not be able to afford him in the offseason anyway.

In Vogel’s defensive system, all you need is players willing to make rotations and close out to shooters. With Lebron and Davis quarterbacking the defence, Fournier, Burks and Walker can at least handle that. Noel is a very good defender as well. None of them suffer from the kind of ADD Westbrook does.

[John Murdoch]

[scoobs07]

Laker fans and possibly Knicks fans might not like this, but I would look into the following version of the trade:

Lakers get: Walker, Fournier, Burks, and Noel

Knicks get: Westbrook, Monk, Bazemore, Jordan, and a 2nd round pick


Why would Lakers deal Monk?

Fournier, who has averaged 29 minutes per game for his career and is on contract for 3 more seasons, would likely take up the bulk of the minutes at shooting guard. Remember, Lakers still have Talen Horton-Tucker, Austin Reeves, Avery Bradley, and Wayne Ellington who all play the same position. You could always go with Fournier at the 3 and Monk at the 2, but I'm not sure about that in terms of defense. Lakers also might not be able to afford Monk in the offseason. The Knicks on the other hand, have a young team, and might actually be able to afford Monk. Lakers might prefer dealing Monk than the pick.

[Danny Darko]

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[Landsberger]

Hield would be just another guy that Westbrook will miss with a pass by 10'.

[zuju]

Does Hield do anything better than Monk including defense ?

[TylersLakers]

Knicks seem like natural partners in a cost cutting trade for Westbrook if Lakers are willing to take on salary beyond the next two seasons. Fournier, Burks, Walker and Noel for Westbrook and a couple of minimum guys like Jordan and Bazemore would get done. We can turn around and shop THT, Nunn and pick for a bigger wing like Covington.

Bobby Marks threw this out as an option and I’d do it. No questions asked.

Westbrook/Nunn/Ellington/Howard/2027 protected 1st for Kemba, Fournier, Burks, Noel

PG: Burks/THT/Kemba
SG: Fournier/Monk/Bradley
SF: LeBron/Reaves/Baze
PF: Stanley/Melo/Ariza
C: Davis/Noel/DJ

- waive DJ, get buyout forward (Thad Young)

LeBron loves Kemba and he could be a wild card. I would also look to make deals around the margins. Don’t see how THT AND Monk would be needed.

Maybe trading Westbrook can be a thing.

[TylersLakers]

Hello, Lakers fans!

What would you think about this deal?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7523227

For Los Angeles, it's Westbrook and Tucker for Hayward and Harris. You absorb salary for better fitting pieces around Lebron and Davis.

James, Bradley, Hayward, Harris, Davis
Monk, Reaves, Johnson, Anthony, Howard

No questions asked from a Lakers perspective. Hayward is the perfect “connecting” type of player to play make, shoot, make the right decisions. Harris can shoot and is a big body. Don’t think Philly does it especially with all the Harden whispers.

[Slava]

Knicks seem like natural partners in a cost cutting trade for Westbrook if Lakers are willing to take on salary beyond the next two seasons. Fournier, Burks, Walker and Noel for Westbrook and a couple of minimum guys like Jordan and Bazemore would get done. We can turn around and shop THT, Nunn and pick for a bigger wing like Covington.

Bobby Marks threw this out as an option and I’d do it. No questions asked.

Westbrook/Nunn/Ellington/Howard/2027 protected 1st for Kemba, Fournier, Burks, Noel

PG: Burks/THT/Kemba
SG: Fournier/Monk/Bradley
SF: LeBron/Reaves/Baze
PF: Stanley/Melo/Ariza
C: Davis/Noel/DJ

- waive DJ, get buyout forward (Thad Young)

LeBron loves Kemba and he could be a wild card. I would also look to make deals around the margins. Don’t see how THT AND Monk would be needed.

Maybe trading Westbrook can be a thing.

We should get a protected first in that deal, Fournier is owed $16M more then Westbrook and Westbrook is the best player amongst those dudes.

[Kilroy]

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Seems like a trade for trade's-sake... What's the net-benefit?
Unless, they think they can move Westbrook...

[scoobs07]

Does Hield do anything better than Monk including defense ?

Yeah, corner threes.

Hield

48% career
39% this season
16% of his total three point attempts are from the corner.

Monk

35% career
32% this season
18% of his total three point attempts are from the corner.

[scoobs07]

Knicks seem like natural partners in a cost cutting trade for Westbrook if Lakers are willing to take on salary beyond the next two seasons. Fournier, Burks, Walker and Noel for Westbrook and a couple of minimum guys like Jordan and Bazemore would get done. We can turn around and shop THT, Nunn and pick for a bigger wing like Covington.

Bobby Marks threw this out as an option and I’d do it. No questions asked.

Westbrook/Nunn/Ellington/Howard/2027 protected 1st for Kemba, Fournier, Burks, Noel

PG: Burks/THT/Kemba
SG: Fournier/Monk/Bradley
SF: LeBron/Reaves/Baze
PF: Stanley/Melo/Ariza
C: Davis/Noel/DJ

- waive DJ, get buyout forward (Thad Young)

LeBron loves Kemba and he could be a wild card. I would also look to make deals around the margins. Don’t see how THT AND Monk would be needed.

Maybe trading Westbrook can be a thing.

Although, I would rather trade Bazemore and DJ instead of Nunn and Howard, I would still do this trade.

[loveshaq786]

Knicks seem like natural partners in a cost cutting trade for Westbrook if Lakers are willing to take on salary beyond the next two seasons. Fournier, Burks, Walker and Noel for Westbrook and a couple of minimum guys like Jordan and Bazemore would get done. We can turn around and shop THT, Nunn and pick for a bigger wing like Covington.

Bobby Marks threw this out as an option and I’d do it. No questions asked.

Westbrook/Nunn/Ellington/Howard/2027 protected 1st for Kemba, Fournier, Burks, Noel

PG: Burks/THT/Kemba
SG: Fournier/Monk/Bradley
SF: LeBron/Reaves/Baze
PF: Stanley/Melo/Ariza
C: Davis/Noel/DJ

- waive DJ, get buyout forward (Thad Young)

LeBron loves Kemba and he could be a wild card. I would also look to make deals around the margins. Don’t see how THT AND Monk would be needed.

Maybe trading Westbrook can be a thing.

Although, I would rather trade Bazemore and DJ instead of Nunn and Howard, I would still do this trade.

Agreed!

I would try to trade kemba, tht and Burks... for Dragic and gt jr

[scoobs07]

Bobby Marks threw this out as an option and I’d do it. No questions asked.

Westbrook/Nunn/Ellington/Howard/2027 protected 1st for Kemba, Fournier, Burks, Noel

PG: Burks/THT/Kemba
SG: Fournier/Monk/Bradley
SF: LeBron/Reaves/Baze
PF: Stanley/Melo/Ariza
C: Davis/Noel/DJ

- waive DJ, get buyout forward (Thad Young)

LeBron loves Kemba and he could be a wild card. I would also look to make deals around the margins. Don’t see how THT AND Monk would be needed.

Maybe trading Westbrook can be a thing.

Although, I would rather trade Bazemore and DJ instead of Nunn and Howard, I would still do this trade.

Agreed!

I would try to trade kemba, tht and Burks... for Dragic and gt jr

That would be really good. Either way, it's a good trade.

[Gorilla Monsoon]

Knicks seem like natural partners in a cost cutting trade for Westbrook if Lakers are willing to take on salary beyond the next two seasons. Fournier, Burks, Walker and Noel for Westbrook and a couple of minimum guys like Jordan and Bazemore would get done. We can turn around and shop THT, Nunn and pick for a bigger wing like Covington.

Bobby Marks threw this out as an option and I’d do it. No questions asked.

Westbrook/Nunn/Ellington/Howard/2027 protected 1st for Kemba, Fournier, Burks, Noel

PG: Burks/THT/Kemba
SG: Fournier/Monk/Bradley
SF: LeBron/Reaves/Baze
PF: Stanley/Melo/Ariza
C: Davis/Noel/DJ

- waive DJ, get buyout forward (Thad Young)

LeBron loves Kemba and he could be a wild card. I would also look to make deals around the margins. Don’t see how THT AND Monk would be needed.

Maybe trading Westbrook can be a thing.

As a diehard Knicks fan, I wouldn't do this deal. The Knicks' biggest issue right now is Randle. He absolutely needs a change of scenery, so the deal would have to include him. But he knows LA, was 2nd team all-NBA last season (8th in MVP voting), and would probably be extremely effective playing with LeBron.

If we're playing GM, my offer to Pelinka is Westbrook for Randle, Fournier and one of Kemba or Burks. We can include Noel if it's needed to match salaries. LAL has to include a 1st as well.

Knicks clear some long-term salary and some of the glut they have to free up minutes for their young guys. Lakers get rid of Westbrook, get some veteran shooting/depth, and take a small gamble on Randle whose problems are all mental right now. I just think he's either got some issue with Thibs, the front office, some of the guys in the locker room, or a combination of all 3. But he's not hurt. The guy is durable and always in magnificent shape. He's still only 27 years old and we know he has the talent. He'd immediately be your 3rd best player if leaving the Knicks gives him new life.

Deal?

[Slava]

Knicks seem like natural partners in a cost cutting trade for Westbrook if Lakers are willing to take on salary beyond the next two seasons. Fournier, Burks, Walker and Noel for Westbrook and a couple of minimum guys like Jordan and Bazemore would get done. We can turn around and shop THT, Nunn and pick for a bigger wing like Covington.

Bobby Marks threw this out as an option and I’d do it. No questions asked.

Westbrook/Nunn/Ellington/Howard/2027 protected 1st for Kemba, Fournier, Burks, Noel

PG: Burks/THT/Kemba
SG: Fournier/Monk/Bradley
SF: LeBron/Reaves/Baze
PF: Stanley/Melo/Ariza
C: Davis/Noel/DJ

- waive DJ, get buyout forward (Thad Young)

LeBron loves Kemba and he could be a wild card. I would also look to make deals around the margins. Don’t see how THT AND Monk would be needed.

Maybe trading Westbrook can be a thing.

As a diehard Knicks fan, I wouldn't do this deal. The Knicks' biggest issue right now is Randle. He absolutely needs a change of scenery, so the deal would have to include him. But he knows LA, was 2nd team all-NBA last season (8th in MVP voting), and would probably be extremely effective playing with LeBron.

If we're playing GM, my offer to Pelinka is Westbrook for Randle, Fournier and one of Kemba or Burks. We can include Noel if it's needed to match salaries. LAL has to include a 1st as well.

Knicks clear some long-term salary and some of the glut they have to free up minutes for their young guys. Lakers get rid of Westbrook, get some veteran shooting/depth, and take a small gamble on Randle whose problems are all mental right now. I just think he's either got some issue with Thibs, the front office, some of the guys in the locker room, or a combination of all 3. But he's not hurt. The guy is durable and always in magnificent shape. He's still only 27 years old and we know he has the talent. He'd immediately be your 3rd best player if leaving the Knicks gives him new life.

Deal?

You haven’t a clue how toxic that Randle contract is around the league and your team offered that on the back of one contract year play. I’d need two unprotected firsts just to swap Russ for Randle, let alone add Fournier.

[Gorilla Monsoon]

Bobby Marks threw this out as an option and I’d do it. No questions asked.

Westbrook/Nunn/Ellington/Howard/2027 protected 1st for Kemba, Fournier, Burks, Noel

PG: Burks/THT/Kemba
SG: Fournier/Monk/Bradley
SF: LeBron/Reaves/Baze
PF: Stanley/Melo/Ariza
C: Davis/Noel/DJ

- waive DJ, get buyout forward (Thad Young)

LeBron loves Kemba and he could be a wild card. I would also look to make deals around the margins. Don’t see how THT AND Monk would be needed.

Maybe trading Westbrook can be a thing.

As a diehard Knicks fan, I wouldn't do this deal. The Knicks' biggest issue right now is Randle. He absolutely needs a change of scenery, so the deal would have to include him. But he knows LA, was 2nd team all-NBA last season (8th in MVP voting), and would probably be extremely effective playing with LeBron.

If we're playing GM, my offer to Pelinka is Westbrook for Randle, Fournier and one of Kemba or Burks. We can include Noel if it's needed to match salaries. LAL has to include a 1st as well.

Knicks clear some long-term salary and some of the glut they have to free up minutes for their young guys. Lakers get rid of Westbrook, get some veteran shooting/depth, and take a small gamble on Randle whose problems are all mental right now. I just think he's either got some issue with Thibs, the front office, some of the guys in the locker room, or a combination of all 3. But he's not hurt. The guy is durable and always in magnificent shape. He's still only 27 years old and we know he has the talent. He'd immediately be your 3rd best player if leaving the Knicks gives him new life.

Deal?

You haven’t a clue how toxic that Randle contract is around the league and your team offered that on the back of one contract year play. I’d need two unprotected firsts just to swap Russ for Randle, let alone add Fournier.

Okay then, enjoy squandering the final years of LeBron's career. Westbrick is toast.

[Slava]

As a diehard Knicks fan, I wouldn't do this deal. The Knicks' biggest issue right now is Randle. He absolutely needs a change of scenery, so the deal would have to include him. But he knows LA, was 2nd team all-NBA last season (8th in MVP voting), and would probably be extremely effective playing with LeBron.

If we're playing GM, my offer to Pelinka is Westbrook for Randle, Fournier and one of Kemba or Burks. We can include Noel if it's needed to match salaries. LAL has to include a 1st as well.

Knicks clear some long-term salary and some of the glut they have to free up minutes for their young guys. Lakers get rid of Westbrook, get some veteran shooting/depth, and take a small gamble on Randle whose problems are all mental right now. I just think he's either got some issue with Thibs, the front office, some of the guys in the locker room, or a combination of all 3. But he's not hurt. The guy is durable and always in magnificent shape. He's still only 27 years old and we know he has the talent. He'd immediately be your 3rd best player if leaving the Knicks gives him new life.

Deal?

You haven’t a clue how toxic that Randle contract is around the league and your team offered that on the back of one contract year play. I’d need two unprotected firsts just to swap Russ for Randle, let alone add Fournier.

Okay then, enjoy squandering the final years of LeBron's career. Westbrick is toast.

Sure, enjoy rewatching your last championship season on VCR tapes.