Lakers fantasy Draft:Discussion Thread

[TyCobb]

There goes my team.

[EArl]

There goes my team.

Fine ill keep intangibles.

Ty make them vote.
Ill vote right now.

[TyCobb]

It may be too hard to accurately assess each team all at once. I like dock's matchup idea, but I like everything he says on RealGM, so I'm admittedly biased.

[EArl]

In the interest of making the voting shorter I have decided to do this.
Only choose your top five teams in each category.

Is that fair?

[dockingsched]

give my idea some consideration earl, its easier to judge a team against just one or two others but at the same time allows each vote to be more thoughtful than trying to rank against 11 other teams.

[EArl]

give my idea some consideration earl, its easier to judge a team against just one or two others but at the same time allows each vote to be more thoughtful than trying to rank against 11 other teams.

edit.

[EArl]

Mirja already submitted his vote. Lets just keep it the way I had it. Im sorry Doc. Ill do that next time.

[dockingsched]

type in all 12 users names

http://www.random.org/lists/

when u get results, have 1st 3 matchup, then the next 3, etc.

[EArl]

type in all 12 users names

http://www.random.org/lists/

when u get results, have 1st 3 matchup, then the next 3, etc.

Okay we will do it your way Doc.
1st coming up.

[Doormatt]

doc for president

[Mirjalovic]

i already did my vote

[EArl]

i already did my vote

sorry Mirja
Give me a second to come up with the our bracket.

[EArl]

Here are the results. Should I make a poll so anyone can vote?

Dockingshed
VS
TylersLakers
vs
DAX17

EArl
vs
Simba248
VS
Mirjalovic
.............................
Doormatt
VS
LakeshowAK7
vs
Tycobb


hermes
vs
BJGOAT3
VS
KB89

[dockingsched]

Create a thread for each matchup imo. here's an example for one of the matchups,



Title: Lakers Fantasy Bracket #4 - Everyone welcomed to vote

Post:

Please rank these teams 1, 2, and 3 based on who has the best combination of team chemistry, offense, defense, intangibles, and the gm's word. Everyone and anyone is welcomed to vote, you need not have a team in this contest to vote. Feel free to provide a 1-2 sentence explanation of your rankings if you wish.

Here are the rosters for your consideration:

hermes:

Spoiler:

pg: slater martin
sg: sasha vujacic
sf: vern mikkelsen
pf: rudy larusso
c: clyde lovellette
6th man: robert horry

coach: brad stevens

team with a championship pedigree and ton of experience getting the job done when it counts the most. lots of defensive tenacity with slater and vern being some of the best defensive players of their eras, and sasha known for being a hustling pest that will get after you. clyde and rudy provide major scoring punches down low, and big shot bob is one of the clutchest players ever to live and always steps up to make the play that needs to be made in crucial situations. this group allows stevens plenty of flexibility with lineups and playing styles as horry and vern can play both forward spots, rudy can be pf or c, and clyde with his outside shooting can go anywhere from sf to center. stevens' defensive, team oriented approach is an excellent compliment to this group that is above average defensively, willing to work hard and work together to win

BJGOAT3

Spoiler:

Ron Harper
Gail Goodrich
Orlando Woolridge
Karl Malone
Elden Campbell

6th Man: Horace Grant

HC: Brian Shaw

Overall, I think my team is a good synthesis of the regular Karl Malone oriented offense with the triangle offense. Since Shaw has the knowledge of the triangle and Ron Harper played the point guard duties under Phil later in his prime, the team has portions of the triangle offense as an option. On top of that prime Harper + Woolridge are athletic players with the ability to run the court efficiently, which could be similar to Denver Nuggets of today, Shaw's current team. On top of that Goodrich is a great offensive option and a shooter who can space the floor, I envisioned a good pick and roll duo in him and Malone. As a result I've got a good variety of offensive sets to break down great defenses. I have a good competitor in Horace Grant who is also good with the triangle, I have to play Campbell at C due to the shortcomings of my team however this also provides a team with good capability to run the floor. In conclusion, I believe this is a solid team that can give trouble to every defensive strategy.

KB89:

Spoiler:

C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Dennis Rodman
SF - Ron Artest
SG - Lou Hudson
PG - Charlie Scott
6th Man - Antawn Jamison
Coach - Rick Carlisle

This team is loaded both on offense and defense. Let's start off with the most vital piece to the team, and that is Shaq. Shaq was an incredibly dominant force in his prime. He would be the vocal point of our offense, and shut down the lane on defense. Dennis Rodman is a perfect player to have on a team loaded with such offensive fire power. He is a rare superstar that knew where he thrived, accepted that, and gave it his all in these areas every game. His defense and rebounding skills are unmatchable, and his knack of getting in opposing players heads was an area of his game that is often over looked. The final member of my starting front court is Ron Artest, an elite defender, a good scorer, and an effective three point shooter. Artest in his prime was a shut down defender, and is absolutely a crucial piece to this team to shut down the opposing team's best perimeter player. Antawn Jamison is a spark plug off the bench, who even won 6th Man of the Year award once, so he's clearly comfortable in that role. He would help create space in the lane for Shaq, since he is an excellent stretch four. This front court has everything I feel; and would hold an advantage over any front court.

For my back court, Lou Hudson is an elite shooter, which was really needed for this team. He was a 6 time Al-Star, averaged 27, 6, and 3 in his prime, and is an overall great guy and an excellent teammate. Charlie Scott has great size for a PG at 6’5”, was a 5 time All-Star, and had career averages of 21, 5, and 4. This backcourt has a good combination of scoring, play making, shooting, and size.

Rick Carlisle has been a winner everywhere he’s gone, and has led teams to thrive at the defensive side of the ball everywhere he’s been. His game plans and coaching led to the Mavericks upsetting the Heat in the Finals. Given this roster, I know he would be able to get it to reach its full potential and help mold this team into the best in the league.

[EArl]

Okay ill start now.
How long should I run the poll for?
Here is the first one. I dont want to do all three at the same time. I feel like the mods will get mad
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1268311

[dockingsched]

here's the copy and paste for one of the other matchups to help you keep going faster:


Doormatt:

Spoiler:

G: Steve Nash
G: Glen Rice
F: Caron Butler
F: Theo Ratliff
C: Pau Gasol

6th man: Matt Barnes

Head Coach: Tom Thibodeau

I think my team is pretty straight forward. The goal was to surround Nash with the shooters+pick n roll players he needs to run a GOAT level offense. With Pau, he not only gets a big who can PnR with him, but also a solid defensive player in the middle. Next to Theo (who made a few all defensive teams+led the league in blocks) they have enough defense+rebounding in the middle to let their high powered offense destroy other teams. Rice is a deadly shooter and will be getting wide open looks all day while Caron will offer a go to scoring threat when Nash is tired/off (which is rare). Matt Barnes is the ultimate hustle player that can be subbed in for defensive assignments/when the team wants to really get out and run. Thibs is the ideal coach for this team as Nash has proven it doesnt matter who the coach is (see Gentry), he just needs capable players to run high level offense. Thibs in the meantime will be creating defensive schemes that will lock down anything they see, as he is imo the smartest defensive coach in the league. its no coincidence wherever he goes a great defense follows.

lakeshow47

Spoiler:

Team LakeShow

PG: Norm Nixon
SG: James Worthy
SF: Elgin Baylor
PF: Kurt Rambis
C: Elmore Smith
6th man: Isaiah Rider
Head Coach: Doc Rivers

The balance of my team is ridiculous in it's own right, more importantly my entire starting lineup fits well and they are all efficient players. Baylor is an offensive machine who is considered the LeBron James of his generation while James Worthy can hit the big shot in any big game and he spent some time playing SG for his teams where he was a complete mismatch for the opposing defender. Kurt Rambis did all of the dirty work for his teams - rebounding, defense, hustle; while Elmore Smith was a man amongst boys on the glass and he played wonderful defense who was known for his elite shotblocking abilities. Norm Nixon was a major player during the Showtime Lakers era (15/8/2 statiscally) as a point guard and his abilities fit this uptempo team greatly, it is not often that you find an uptempo team that can play elite defense as well. The scoring off the bench provided by Rider in his prime is almost second to none during his time playing. Doc Rivers is a hall of fame coach who can get the most out of his players both defensively and offensively and most importantly his players will leave it all out on the court for him.

tycobb

Spoiler:

Team TyCobb

PG Jerry West
"Combine a deadly jump shot, tenacious defense, obsessive perfectionism, unabashed confidence, and an uncompromising will to win, and you've got Jerry West, one of the greatest guards in NBA history."

SG Byron Scott
Efficient shooter, plays passing lanes well, and great locker room presence.

SF Adrian Dantley
"On the court, the athletic Dantley was as smooth an outside shooter as could be, a force on the inside with an explosive first step, and a master of psychology."

PF A.C. Green
The Ironman. Great role player, solid defense, and even better makeup.

C Mychal Thompson
Another High BBIQ guy. Great teammate, passer, and efficient scorer. Also great makeup.

6th man: Jim McMillian
Replaced Elgin Baylor and led the Lakers to their 33-game record win streak. Was later traded for C Elmore Smith.

Head Coach: Erik Spoelstra
Can manage team-first ego exceptionally well. Fits the uptempo personnel of roster.

This team is made up of some of basketball's greatest human beings. Led by Hall of Famers Jerry West and Adrian Dantley, this team will have no problem gelling as a unit nor being highly competitive. The teams' goal was to put together a group of highly successful athletes who are efficient offensively, pass the ball well, and athletic to get up and down the court. Really feel that chemistry should play a big role when it comes to winning. All great character guys.

[dockingsched]

Okay ill start now.
How long should I run the poll for?

the voting, hmmmm, may be til tuesday night, midnight?

i also wouldn't do an actual poll, make the votes be posts. that way people are ranking the teams 1, 2, 3 and u get a better idea of the top 2 teams, which is what you want. poll only lets who know who the top 1 is.

Here is the first one. I dont want to do all three at the same time. I feel like the mods will get mad
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1268311

just doooo it

[EArl]

Here are the threads:
#1
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1268311

#2
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1268313

#3
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1268314

4#
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1268315

Dont vote in a thread that your team is in.

[Mirjalovic]

can you vote your own team ? or we not allowed to vote in our matchup ?

[EArl]

can you vote your own team ? or we not allowed to vote in our matchup ?

Sorry . I forgot to put that. Dont vote in the thread that your team is in.