#27 #34 Draft Picks Discussion

[Kobe System]

if we are going to get Love then we will NOT draft a big.
I say trade the pick and clarkson for westbrook
sign love
c--black
pf--love
sf--randle???
sg--kobe
pg--westbrook
so is this bad??

If we get Love, we got ourselves our new Bynum/Pau/Odom 2.0 (lite) with Okafor/Love/Randle
And #2 pick & Clarkson won't net us Westbrook.

[Asianiac_24]

I hope we get Towns, if not I'd rather trade down. Okafor doesn't have franchise changing potential IMO, would rather trade down for Hezonja and another player if that is the case.

[BullsLakersFan]

The 2nd pick got me like

3:08
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r80YAlwAAQw&feature=youtu.be&t=188[/youtube]

[PKABOOICU]

Like Doc said...workouts (and interviews) are going to be the deciding factor.

We're going to nab whoever has that special something. Just like Randle, just like Clarkson.

to be fair, randle wasn't a special something...lakers were going hard after dante exum last year, and their fallback plan was marcus smart. they picked randle because he was the best available player on the board, but looking in hindsight, it looks like it worked out for the lakers since they drafted clarkson and he went on to be the best PG out of the draft.

as i said before, this draft is very easy for the lakers because minnesota will make it easy for them. The lakers simply will take the remaining center on the board.
that said, dangelo russell (compared to harden/ginobili) and emmanuel mudiay (compared to john wall) are very intriguing pieces and have more superstar potential than towns or okafor, imo...but those types of players are readily available via trade...rondo, lawson, rubio, etc will all be on the move sooner or later and the lakers will have money to spend.

[ratedrdb]

TRADE ALERT----
SAC trades cousins and 6th pick to
LAL for 2nd pick and young and hill

[ratedrdb]

TRADE ALERT 2
MEM trades marc gasol and 25th pick and next yr 1
lakers trade 2nd and young and hill

[Mirjalovic]

Like Doc said...workouts (and interviews) are going to be the deciding factor.

We're going to nab whoever has that special something. Just like Randle, just like Clarkson.

to be fair, randle wasn't a special something...lakers were going hard after dante exum last year, and their fallback plan was marcus smart. they picked randle because he was the best available player on the board, but looking in hindsight, it looks like it worked out for the lakers since they drafted clarkson and he went on to be the best PG out of the draft.

as i said before, this draft is very easy for the lakers because minnesota will make it easy for them. The lakers simply will take the remaining center on the board.
that said, dangelo russell (compared to harden/ginobili) and emmanuel mudiay (compared to john wall) are very intriguing pieces and have more superstar potential than towns or okafor, imo...but those types of players are readily available via trade...rondo, lawson, rubio, etc will all be on the move sooner or later and the lakers will have money to spend.

NO
actually Lakers war room were pretty happy when the Celtics pick Smart.

the only want who wanted Smart is our fanbase. I heavily dislike Smart.. so overrated as prospect

[Kobe System]

TRADE ALERT 2
MEM trades marc gasol and 25th pick and next yr 1
lakers trade 2nd and young and hill

Hell no.

[TylersLakers]

if we are going to get Love then we will NOT draft a big.
I say trade the pick and clarkson for westbrook
sign love
c--black
pf--love
sf--randle???
sg--kobe
pg--westbrook
so is this bad??

I disagree I think drafting a C makes going after Love more likely. Mitch mentioned last night that they consider Julius Randle a rookie, I don't imagine them wanting to start him and play 30+ minutes.

However, I do see them wanting to spend some money on a guard. I don't think we'll be actively involved for Gasol.

[jorge]

if we are going to get Love then we will NOT draft a big.
I say trade the pick and clarkson for westbrook
sign love
c--black
pf--love
sf--randle???
sg--kobe
pg--westbrook
so is this bad??

I disagree I think drafting a C makes going after Love more likely. Mitch mentioned last night that they consider Julius Randle a rookie, I don't imagine them wanting to start him and play 30+ minutes.

However, I do see them wanting to spend some money on a guard. I don't think we'll be actively involved for Gasol.

I agree, I don't see why they shouln't go after a C if they sign Love. Randle could be the reason for not going after Love but as you wrote, he will be considered as a Rookie. So trying to sign Love makes sense.

And I disagree with the opinion that Minnesota will make it easy and we just take the next C. If the Lakers can sign a big name C, why pick one in the draft. Rather take Mundiay or Russell.

[Danny Darko]

You know what?- positionally the D looks good to me. He may not be a rim protector, but no one gets to the rim if you play team D. Also he looks long and stable and like he won't be getting tossed out of every game with foul trouble.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zp_5yDmJ3k[/youtube]

[Sedale Threatt]

One thing I don't miss about not participating heavily on the basketball-related threads any more: All the dog isht trade ideas. The notion that we have enough to pry Cousins or Westbrook loose is mental.

[mjba]

You know what?- positionally the D looks good to me. He may not be a rim protector, but no one gets to the rim if you play team D. Also he looks long and stable and like he won't be getting tossed out of every game with foul trouble.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zp_5yDmJ3k[/youtube]

he definitely has a good solid base and incredible physical dimensions, but i'm most concerned about his feel/awareness on d. this is particularly a problem against the p&r heavy offences of today's NBA. interior toughness is also a concern - seems to have a problem going straight up (not even really sure if that's specifically a toughness thing - maybe it's just technique?) have a look at the DX video breakdown in the russell/okafor thread i just posted.

[Michael Lucky]

TRADE ALERT----
SAC trades cousins and 6th pick to
LAL for 2nd pick and young and hill

The lakers have no reason to trade such a high pick for players they could theoretically get with their cap space. You need to remember that these players will only cost you 4million/year for 3-4 years. I'd much rather keep the pick and pair it up with another FA even if that FA isn't as good as Cousins.

[LApwnd]

TRADE ALERT 2
MEM trades marc gasol and 25th pick and next yr 1
lakers trade 2nd and young and hill

the hell? Marc is UFA why would you give up the 2nd if he agrees to come here? and Mem doesn't own next year 1st, I think Den has it or some one does. But if that's the 2nd rd pick by all means

[Zman80000]

Towns has the higher ceiling and looks like the better fit for the Lakers.

If Flip takes Okafor I'd be shocked if you don't take Towns.
Russell would be a great choice also but a big with mega star potential that also fills a need is like a dream come true.

[TylersLakers]

if we are going to get Love then we will NOT draft a big.
I say trade the pick and clarkson for westbrook
sign love
c--black
pf--love
sf--randle???
sg--kobe
pg--westbrook
so is this bad??

I disagree I think drafting a C makes going after Love more likely. Mitch mentioned last night that they consider Julius Randle a rookie, I don't imagine them wanting to start him and play 30+ minutes.

However, I do see them wanting to spend some money on a guard. I don't think we'll be actively involved for Gasol.

I agree, I don't see why they shouln't go after a C if they sign Love. Randle could be the reason for not going after Love but as you wrote, he will be considered as a Rookie. So trying to sign Love makes sense.

And I disagree with the opinion that Minnesota will make it easy and we just take the next C. If the Lakers can sign a big name C, why pick one in the draft. Rather take Mundiay or Russell.

Yup and having Randle in a LO type role off the bench playing 24-28 minutes a game would be perfect to ease him back in. Towards the end of the season? Who knows.

[LApwnd]

we need to prioritize FA with a solid 3/D wing 1st before we look at Love. This is the position that seems to be the x-factor for winning teams, if Allen wasn't such a terrible shooter Mem might have had better chance of beating GSW and look at the impact Kawahi has had on the spurs and Green with GSW.

[crazyeights]

Like Doc said...workouts (and interviews) are going to be the deciding factor.

We're going to nab whoever has that special something. Just like Randle, just like Clarkson.

to be fair, randle wasn't a special something...lakers were going hard after dante exum last year, and their fallback plan was marcus smart. they picked randle because he was the best available player on the board, but looking in hindsight, it looks like it worked out for the lakers since they drafted clarkson and he went on to be the best PG out of the draft.

as i said before, this draft is very easy for the lakers because minnesota will make it easy for them. The lakers simply will take the remaining center on the board.
that said, dangelo russell (compared to harden/ginobili) and emmanuel mudiay (compared to john wall) are very intriguing pieces and have more superstar potential than towns or okafor, imo...but those types of players are readily available via trade...rondo, lawson, rubio, etc will all be on the move sooner or later and the lakers will have money to spend.

NO
actually Lakers war room were pretty happy when the Celtics pick Smart.

the only want who wanted Smart is our fanbase. I heavily dislike Smart.. so overrated as prospect

Yeah, I'm not sure where you got that impression that we wanted Smart over Randle. Pretty sure the way things worked out is Randle was always projected after the Embiid/Wiggins/Parker grouping and since we had the 6th worst record, we never had a shot at the 4 spot (where Randle was projected for much of the draft process).

It wasn't until Randle's foot situation "leaked" that he started to fall, but judging from the fact that at his workout Jim Buss came down and shook Randle's hand, looked into his eyes, pretty sure it was at that moment we had our commitment to him. And it showed. Randle's agent canceled a last minute workout with the Celtics, forcing them to take Smart...creating the perfect moment when Bill Simmons was confidently saying the Celtics would take Randle here and then watching him swallow Smart.

[Michael Lucky]

to be fair, randle wasn't a special something...lakers were going hard after dante exum last year, and their fallback plan was marcus smart. they picked randle because he was the best available player on the board, but looking in hindsight, it looks like it worked out for the lakers since they drafted clarkson and he went on to be the best PG out of the draft.

as i said before, this draft is very easy for the lakers because minnesota will make it easy for them. The lakers simply will take the remaining center on the board.
that said, dangelo russell (compared to harden/ginobili) and emmanuel mudiay (compared to john wall) are very intriguing pieces and have more superstar potential than towns or okafor, imo...but those types of players are readily available via trade...rondo, lawson, rubio, etc will all be on the move sooner or later and the lakers will have money to spend.

NO
actually Lakers war room were pretty happy when the Celtics pick Smart.

the only want who wanted Smart is our fanbase. I heavily dislike Smart.. so overrated as prospect

Yeah, I'm not sure where you got that impression that we wanted Smart over Randle. Pretty sure the way things worked out is Randle was always projected after the Embiid/Wiggins/Parker grouping and since we had the 6th worst record, we never had a shot at the 4 spot (where Randle was projected for much of the draft process).

It wasn't until Randle's foot situation "leaked" that he started to fall, but judging from the fact that at his workout Jim Buss came down and shook Randle's hand, looked into his eyes, pretty sure it was at that moment we had our commitment to him. And it showed. Randle's agent canceled a last minute workout with the Celtics, forcing them to take Smart...creating the perfect moment when Bill Simmons was confidently saying the Celtics would take Randle here and then watching him swallow Smart.

Probably that poll that was made. Although at the time like you said not many expected Randle to fall to us.