2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

[Michael Lucky]

True but the amount of free throws (elite level) he took and the amount he missed are the major culprit that affected his TS%. His shooting on the floor was pretty elite.

Well I'm of the mind that Russell will be a great player, but I also believe that Fultz will be even better.

[Slava]

Fultz has as many if not more concerns about motor and attitude than Russell. If he couldn't get it going for 30 odd games in college, it will remain as much of an issue in the pros if not more. He's by no means a guaranteed thing like past #1 picks.

Lonzo is a far surer bet in that regard.

[Michael Lucky]

I sure hope the Celtics see it the same way as you then. I would love having Fultz.

[AcecardZ]

Isaiah Thomas injury all but assures the Celtics take Fultz???

If he had a great series vs Cavs I could see the Celtics thinking they might be better off filling another need.

If the Celtics see Alonzo as the better player of the two players between Ball and Fultz do the Celtics take Fultz anyway knowing Ball's desire to play for LA?
What team with what offer would have the best chance of getting the Celtics' to trade away their #1 pick?

If I'm the Celtics and I find the Lakers are 100% all in on Lonzo Ball I think I could leverage that position to secure the 28th pick along with the #2. They tell the Lakers they are selecting Lonzo #1 overall and if the Lakers covet Ball that highly they'd have no choice but to deal.

[Karmaloop]

Not even sure how but Luke Kennard shot upto 14th in the mocks.

He has a role that will always be welcomed in the NBA. And once you get past the top 10ish prospects, it really is a matter of preference.

[Karmaloop]

Fultz has as many if not more concerns about motor and attitude than Russell. If he couldn't get it going for 30 odd games in college, it will remain as much of an issue in the pros if not more. He's by no means a guaranteed thing like past #1 picks.

Lonzo is a far surer bet in that regard.

Are we really going to have this Ben Simmons discussion again?

[Dr Aki]

If I'm the Celtics and I find the Lakers are 100% all in on Lonzo Ball I think I could leverage that position to secure the 28th pick along with the #2. They tell the Lakers they are selecting Lonzo #1 overall and if the Lakers covet Ball that highly they'd have no choice but to deal.

what's to stop us taking fultz, and leveraging it against the celtics for lonzo and a minor pick/draft rights?

[Michael Lucky]

Pelinka covets Fultz if the rumors that he tried hard to be his agent are true. If that's the case, i don't see a case where the Lakers would fall for that.

[Gus McCrae]

2 part question: You guys think there's any chance the celtics pass on fultz? Would we be stoked if they took ball ahead of fultz?

[Michael Lucky]

Doubt it. I think if they were to pick someone ahead of fultz it would be Jackson anyways.

[Dr Aki]

imma leave this here

http://nbadraft.theringer.com/



that's the moreyball wet dream right there

[Mirjalovic]

the best player on this draft

2 part question: You guys think there's any chance the celtics pass on fultz? Would we be stoked if they took ball ahead of fultz?

i would hate it

[TyCobb]

imma leave this here

http://nbadraft.theringer.com/



that's the moreyball wet dream right there

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[Dr Aki]

imma leave this here

http://nbadraft.theringer.com/



that's the moreyball wet dream right there

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You should totally just have running updates on the opening post.

Like a debunking myths post

[Pythagoras]

imma leave this here

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that's the moreyball wet dream right there

I don't what kind of defender this kid will be at the next level, but offensively he's easily the best fit for the team's needs and Luke's vision.

[Dr Aki]

imma leave this here

http://nbadraft.theringer.com/



that's the moreyball wet dream right there

I don't what kind of defender this kid will be at the next level, but offensively he's easily the best fit for the team's needs and Luke's vision.

with those numbers, this kid is the type of player you design your entire team around

ok, that might be a tad hyperbolic

[Pythagoras]

imma leave this here

http://nbadraft.theringer.com/



that's the moreyball wet dream right there

I don't what kind of defender this kid will be at the next level, but offensively he's easily the best fit for the team's needs and Luke's vision.

with those numbers, this kid is the type of player you design your entire team around

ok, that might be a tad hyperbolic

It might be a little hyperbolic but there is a kernel of truth in there. This kid can shoot. I mean really freaking shoot. While people are worried about his shooting mechanics, I would point to Reggie Miller, who had one of the ugliest looking shots in NBA history. And before anyone gets mad at a comparison to one of the greatest shooters in NBA history, take a little at this tidbit from DraftExpress:

Ball sports a highly unusual shooting motion, albeit one he found quite a bit of success with this season. He connected on 41.2% of his 194 three-point attempts, many of them from far beyond NBA range. He was fairly consistent as a catch and shoot player, connecting on 44.6% of his catch and shoot shots, per Synergy, despite the fact that a majority of them came from three-point range and the fact that over 68% of them were contested. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Lonzo-Ball-7229/ ©DraftExpress

[Michael Lucky]

Obviously there's one glaring thing at that shot chart for Lonzo. The lack of midrange shots. Not a single spot saw ten attempts. Having said that, it's also a good thing. You don't want your players to take the least efficient/rewarding shots all game. So his one weakness (the midrange), isn't all that big of a weakness in the overall scheme of things. As long as Lonzo can get to the rim, and there's no reason why he shouldn't he should be more than fine at the NBA level.

[stan francisco]

Let's see some defensive charts.

I still say Josh Jackson or trade the pick (packaged with JC and Deng).

Defense. Wins. Championships.

PG: Ingram
SG: Russell
SF: Jackson
PF: Randle
C: Zubac

That's without trading pick, drafting Jackson.


Trading the pick with Deng, Clarkson for a vet PG:

PG: Vet impact PG
SG: Russell
SF: Ingram
PF: Randle
C: Zubac


Trading the pick with Deng/Moz, Clarkson and Randle for a star big man (AD)...

PG: Ingram
SG: Russell
SF: Ingram
PF: Vet impact star PF
C: Zubac


With ONE legit veteran player committed, free agents will start feeling the LA pull.

[TyCobb]

Jordan Bell defense: 3.0 DWS, 9.0 DBPM
Josh Jackson defense: 2.2 DWS, 5.7 DBPM

One of these guys can be had at #28. Don't waste a Top 2 pick on a defensive player, especially when he is not even the best one.