Official trade thread/buy-out market 20-21 edition

[lazybatman]

How about Bjelica for Kinney, Dud and a pick? Dude's been injured since Jan, and about to resume play. I'd much prefer him over deadwood like Dedmon & Whiteside.

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- Superb 3 pt shooter - 42% for 2019-20 - and mad 30 ft range on that 3 too like Bron
- Nifty big passer, much like as Gasol
- Can handle the ball a little
- Got a legit jumper, floater and some around the rim finishing ability

Stan - he feels a lot like a discount Bertans, but a slightly better defender & ball handler, and a much better passer out of the post.

[lazybatman]

I'd love to get Capela out of Atlanta as the long term rim running center next to AD.

He's great, but expensive for non shooter, no?

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[DNP-Old]

How about Bjelica for Kinney, Dud and a pick? Dude's been injured since Jan, and about to resume play. I'd much prefer him over deadwood like Dedmon & Whiteside.

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- Superb 3 pt shooter - 42% for 2019-20 - and mad 30 ft range on that 3 too like Bron
- Nifty big passer, much like as Gasol
- Can handle the ball a little
- Got a legit jumper, floater and some around the rim finishing ability

Stan - he feels a lot like a discount Bertans, but a slightly better defender & ball handler, and a much better passer out of the post.

1. The money doesn't work out.
2. Why would the Kings do this?

[lazybatman]

1. The money doesn't work out.
2. Why would the Kings do this?

1. I didn't look at the exact money. Surely we can figure something out.
2. I'm genuinely surprised to see them at 7th seed in the West. Just assumed they would be well out of playoff contention, and wouldn't mind getting a pick for him. Idk if Morris / Wes + pick + filler does it, but that's all we got to throw at it in that case.

[Slava]

I'd love to get Capela out of Atlanta as the long term rim running center next to AD.

He's great, but expensive for non shooter, no?

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He does everything you’d want in a rim running big man prototype that Lebron and AD had success with last season between Javale and Howard.

[Beethoven]

Capela would be amazing. You would have the chocolate-peanut butter swirl hair twins w Dennis.

[DNP-Old]

1. The money doesn't work out.
2. Why would the Kings do this?

1. I didn't look at the exact money. Surely we can figure something out.
2. I'm genuinely surprised to see them at 7th seed in the West. Just assumed they would be well out of playoff contention, and wouldn't mind getting a pick for him. Idk if Morris / Wes + pick + filler does it, but that's all we got to throw at it in that case.

A few things to think about in trade ideas:
1. Kuzma is very hard to trade until after this season due to his extension (poison pill).
2. Morris and Dudley need to approve any trade that includes them as they would be giving up their bird rights.
3. If LAL does a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trade, they do not have the money to sign additional players to their roster. So, they would be giving up depth.
4. LAL 2nd round picks have very little value as they are projected to be in the high 50's.

I like the idea of acquiring Bjelica, but I don't see anything on LAL's roster (that they would be willing to give up) that the King's would be interested in taking back.

[lazybatman]

A few things to think about in trade ideas:
1. Kuzma is very hard to trade until after this season due to his extension (poison pill).
2. Morris and Dudley need to approve any trade that includes them as they would be giving up their bird rights.
3. If LAL does a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trade, they do not have the money to sign additional players to their roster. So, they would be giving up depth.
4. LAL 2nd round picks have very little value as they are projected to be in the high 50's.

I like the idea of acquiring Bjelica, but I don't see anything on LAL's roster (that they would be willing to give up) that the King's would be interested in taking back.

Great points bro. I like to throw out random trade ideas, so don't mind me.

1. I think Kuz got a fair MV extention. Anyone who buys his contract ought to be seeing some long term value in him, so it should only serve as a positive to have him locked up for another 3 years. A GM that sees him as a meagre 3.6m salary is not one we get into a trade discussion with obviously. So, I disagree with you about this, but do explain if I'm missing something.

I was ready to throw Kuz into any trade until last week, but he's had 3 blunder free great games since then. For the first time in 2 years, his value is going up ever so slightly.

2. Oh well.. Dud's prolly gonna sign any waivers pretty easily to help out, and get waived again by his new team to come back and hang with the boys. Morris gave up money and possibly another opportunity to be here, and he has been nothing but a pro.

3. I see the depth issue, but losing Cook, Kinney & Dud in a trade for a contributing role player doesn't really worry me too much. Besides, we may end up with a shorter rotation of 7-9 guys in the end anyway, so 4-5 guys + Anteketoumpo and Cacok for the reserves is just fine.

4. And the Pelicans have swaps on some of our first rounders.. Tough spot.

You're probably right. Looking closely, we might need to throw Kuz + 2 fillers(no picks in that case) to make it happen, which makes it kind of a big gamble, considering that it's basically the last save-your-*ss trade we'll be able to make this season.

Kuz and Schröder’s possible new contracts' implications on our ability to re-sign Caruso & THT bother me a great deal, so it as like killing 2 birds with one stone in my head. I feel neither are great fits for us atm.

[DNP-Old]

A few things to think about in trade ideas:
1. Kuzma is very hard to trade until after this season due to his extension (poison pill).
2. Morris and Dudley need to approve any trade that includes them as they would be giving up their bird rights.
3. If LAL does a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trade, they do not have the money to sign additional players to their roster. So, they would be giving up depth.
4. LAL 2nd round picks have very little value as they are projected to be in the high 50's.

I like the idea of acquiring Bjelica, but I don't see anything on LAL's roster (that they would be willing to give up) that the King's would be interested in taking back.

Great points bro. I like to throw out random trade ideas, so don't mind me.

1. I think Kuz got a fair MV extention. Anyone who buys his contract ought to be seeing some long term value in him, so it should only serve as a positive to have him locked up for another 3 years. A GM that sees him as a meagre 3.6m salary is not one we get into a trade discussion with obviously. So, I disagree with you about this, but do explain if I'm missing something.

I was ready to throw Kuz into any trade until last week, but he's had 3 blunder free great games since then. For the first time in 2 years, his value is going up ever so slightly.

2. Oh well.. Dud's prolly gonna sign any waivers pretty easily to help out, and get waived again by his new team to come back and hang with the boys. Morris gave up money and possibly another opportunity to be here, and he has been nothing but a pro.

3. I see the depth issue, but losing Cook, Kinney & Dud in a trade for a contributing role player doesn't really worry me too much. Besides, we may end up with a shorter rotation of 7-9 guys in the end anyway, so 4-5 guys + Anteketoumpo and Cacok for the reserves is just fine.

4. And the Pelicans have swaps on some of our first rounders.. Tough spot.

You're probably right. Looking closely, we might need to throw Kuz + 2 fillers(no picks in that case) to make it happen, which makes it kind of a big gamble, considering that it's basically the last save-your-*ss trade we'll be able to make this season.

Kuz and Schröder’s possible new contracts' implications on our ability to re-sign Caruso & THT bother me a great deal, so it as like killing 2 birds with one stone in my head. I feel neither are great fits for us atm.

Its not a matter of what I think Kuzma is worth, its a matter of the "poison pill" part of the CBA. Kuzma only counts as 3.5m on the Lakers end but about 9m incoming for the team he goes to.

[TheHartBreakKid]

The reality of it is that we have very limited trade options.

The most tradable guy (in terms of being expendable and having trade value) is Kuz. Until his extension kicks in though, we are very limited in what we could get back for him. It would realistically need to be someone who is on their rookie contract.

I would love for the Lakers to get clever and steal a young player on their rookie contract who has shown promise who might be undervalued simply due to a lack of opportunities.

I would take a good look at Mo Bamba. He bring the shot blocking potential we need on this team while having the age and tools to be possibly a long term fit. Not necessarily saying for Kuz (and not necessarily saying the Magic would even trade him for Kuz) but it's someone who simply has to be moved eventually and can have a huge impact on his next team.

Injuries have bothered him this year and he's only played 9 games averaging 6 minutes a game, but his per minute production is incredible (albeit in a super small sample size), though his per minute production last year was great too. He's not someone the Magic can play next to Vucevic, who is their best player, so naturally he isn't going to get minutes even if he was healthy. The small sample size definitely makes him a huge risk for a championship contending team, but I would hope that he's atleast on the FO's radar.


We need a rim protector come playoff time other than AD, even if this player would only get limited minutes based on matchups. We also need a regular season starting center next to AD as early as next year to play the Mcgee/Marc Gasol role. trez isn't that guy; Bamba is one of the few guys who could potentially address both those needs.

Again, I have no idea what his value is right now. I just know the Magic need to trade him sooner than later, and his lack of minutes/games played should in theory make him affordable.

Forget about his insane per 36 number this year (which are obviously obviously inflated with him playing only 9 games and 6 minutes a game). But let's take a look at his per 36 last year (which are still obviously inflated but more relevant considering he played 62 games and 14 minutes a game);
14/12 with 3.5 blocks, shooting 34% from 3, at 21 years old. Just saying something to atleast take a look at, considering he's up for an extension this summer and he simply can't play alongside the Magic's best player, with his value being incredibly low due to the low volume.

[lazybatman]

Its not a matter of what I think Kuzma is worth, its a matter of the "poison pill" part of the CBA. Kuzma only counts as 3.5m on the Lakers end but about 9m incoming for the team he goes to.

Welp!

Just clarifying for my understanding - So we can bring in a 3.6m salary from a team that has 5.5m extra cap room to take his 9m salary hit. Right? And this is because of his Rookie scale extension.

[mcscotty]

Schroder for Lonzo Ball.

[DNP-Old]

Its not a matter of what I think Kuzma is worth, its a matter of the "poison pill" part of the CBA. Kuzma only counts as 3.5m on the Lakers end but about 9m incoming for the team he goes to.

Welp!

Just clarifying for my understanding - So we can bring in a 3.6m salary from a team that has 5.5m extra cap room to take his 9m salary hit. Right? And this is because of his Rookie scale extension.

Correct.

[iamworthy]

Are we keeping Trez pass the trade deadline?

[Kilroy]

Are we keeping Trez pass the trade deadline?

Interesting question... And maybe another reason for AD's 'injury'... Feature Wes Mathews and Trez and see what we can turn them into? Maybe low key Schroder too?

IDK, but I think the safe money is the smart money on that one, and I'd guess we keep all of them, unless something insane came up.

Do we really need or want Bradley Beal? I don't see that as an answer to any question we have, unless we're talking about a complete restructuring of our roster mid season... I really don't know what Trez could get us, that we need.

[Slava]

Doesn't Trez have a no trade clause by default as he signed a 1+1 deal?

[Kilroy]

Doesn't Trez have a no trade clause by default as he signed a 1+1 deal?

Well, hoopshype is saying he's eligible for trade after the 6th... So I don't know. He has a player option on the second season, but it also says both seasons were fully guaranteed.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/all-the-nba-players-who-become-eligible-for-a-trade-on-february-6/

[Slava]

Doesn't Trez have a no trade clause by default as he signed a 1+1 deal?

Well, hoopshype is saying he's eligible for trade after the 6th... So I don't know. He has a player option on the second season, but it also says both seasons were fully guaranteed.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/all-the-nba-players-who-become-eligible-for-a-trade-on-february-6/

Basketball insiders seem to suggest only Kieff and Dudley have no trade clauses.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/los-angeles-lakers-team-salary/

[tamaraw08]

Are we keeping Trez pass the trade deadline?

Interesting question... And maybe another reason for AD's 'injury'... Feature Wes Mathews and Trez and see what we can turn them into? Maybe low key Schroder too?

IDK, but I think the safe money is the smart money on that one, and I'd guess we keep all of them, unless something insane came up.

Do we really need or want Bradley Beal? I don't see that as an answer to any question we have, unless we're talking about a complete restructuring of our roster mid season... I really don't know what Trez could get us, that we need.

Maybe not this year but you have to deal with the INEVITABLE, that Lebron will be 38 in 2 years and how would this team look 2-3 years from now?

[zuju]

When may the Lakers talk with Schroder about his extension?

What if Schroder mark a hefty price tag say 23-28M, will you want to extend him or will you prefer trading him?

If you prefer the later, who do you want?