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All things number 4. Trade or draft? Let the rumors begin

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Re: All things number 4. Trade or draft? Let the rumors begin 

Post#381 » by Danny Darko » Thu May 30, 2019 9:28 pm

“I still think it will be BOS first then LAL 2nd. LAL do have good assets that ppl in org. value. Alvin Gentry loves idea of Zo/Holiday backcourt but Lavar doesn’t. I do think LAL have to pay a tax to make a deal, pay a lil more of what Bos or NY pays.”


Then those mf'ers can send him to Boston. I'm not offering them the house again
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Post#382 » by basketballRob » Thu May 30, 2019 9:34 pm

Curious if you'd do Bamba and the 16 pick for the 4th pick.

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Post#383 » by carjoch_831 » Thu May 30, 2019 9:42 pm

basketballRob wrote:Curious if you'd do Bamba and the 16 pick for the 4th pick.

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Nope
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Post#384 » by basketballRob » Thu May 30, 2019 9:43 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Curious if you'd do Bamba and the 16 pick for the 4th pick.

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Nope
Bamba would look good with Lebron

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Re: All things number 4. Trade or draft? Let the rumors begin 

Post#385 » by Pythagoras » Thu May 30, 2019 10:56 pm

basketballRob wrote:Curious if you'd do Bamba and the 16 pick for the 4th pick.

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I don’t completely hate that deal, it’s just that Bamba is so raw that it’s probably not the direction we should go.
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Re: All things number 4. Trade or draft? Let the rumors begin 

Post#386 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Fri May 31, 2019 7:16 am

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AcecardZ wrote:If Davis decides to stay in NO and play with Zion do the Pels have any flexibility to go after free agents?


The #4 have to make sure NO does not want to trade Davis to LAL.

If NO wants to trade with LAL they should do it before the draft that way they could draft the player they want.

So hold the pick until then. If no NO trade then get the Best Available.

The (unlikely) plan is to agree on a deal with NO, draft the player they want with #4, then wait 30 days before consummating the deal so #4's rookie salary can count against AD's incoming salary.
That way we have enough cap space to sign a max free agent, and also trade for AD. It's an extreme long shot.


If the Pelicans agree to a deal draft night, the Lakers still have some leverage in that the possibility of us signing him in a year still exists.

However if Griffin waits till after we sign a max guy, we no longer have a way to clear the space for a max offer in 2020. If we dumped everyone but LeBron, Max Player and the Deng stretch and cap holds, I believe the max we could get to is around 26 million to start.

Griffin knows for a player as injured as AD, he isn’t going to drop from a supermax to 4 years starting at 26 million. So a trade becomes our only real option to acquire him thus swinging what little leverage we had back to New Orleans. This is absolutely why Griffin is talking about them fixing things with AD...it’s a leverage play all the way around.
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Re: All things number 4. Trade or draft? Let the rumors begin 

Post#387 » by Slava » Fri May 31, 2019 9:34 am

basketballRob wrote:
carjoch_831 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Curious if you'd do Bamba and the 16 pick for the 4th pick.

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Nope
Bamba would look good with Lebron

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By the time Bamba becomes serviceable, LeBron will be in retirement. He is a good prospect but he's way too raw to help anyone right now.
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Post#388 » by nzahir » Fri May 31, 2019 9:45 am

basketballRob wrote:Curious if you'd do Bamba and the 16 pick for the 4th pick.

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No, too raw, need guys who are ready
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Post#389 » by basketballRob » Fri May 31, 2019 12:18 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Curious if you'd do Bamba and the 16 pick for the 4th pick.

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No, too raw, need guys who are ready
I thought Bamba would be the perfect compliment to Lebron and maybe Kyrie/Butler. Plus the 16 pick.

If Bamba didn't have a bad stretch shooting the 3 he was up to like 385.

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Post#390 » by Penberthy » Fri May 31, 2019 3:36 pm

#4 for #8 and #10

Beverly (20) Ball (28) Bonga
Reddick (28) Hart (20) #8
Kuzma (16) Ingram (32)
Lebron (32) Kuzma (16)
Vucevic (34) Wagner (14) #10
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Post#391 » by Ball so hard » Fri May 31, 2019 5:21 pm

Penberthy wrote:#4 for #8 and #10

Beverly (20) Ball (28) Bonga
Reddick (28) Hart (20) #8
Kuzma (16) Ingram (32)
Lebron (32) Kuzma (16)
Vucevic (34) Wagner (14) #10


Why would the Hawks do this trade. This draft is widely regarded as a 3 player draft. 3 for 8 & 10 make more sense.
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Post#392 » by magicbesteva » Fri May 31, 2019 5:46 pm

Ball so hard wrote:
Penberthy wrote:#4 for #8 and #10

Beverly (20) Ball (28) Bonga
Reddick (28) Hart (20) #8
Kuzma (16) Ingram (32)
Lebron (32) Kuzma (16)
Vucevic (34) Wagner (14) #10


Why would the Hawks do this trade. This draft is widely regarded as a 3 player draft. 3 for 8 & 10 make more sense.


Why trade down?? Who you trying to get Bol Bol & Kevin Porter Jr. Makes no sense if you're the Lakers
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Post#393 » by milesfides » Fri May 31, 2019 5:47 pm

Zero chance the Lakers keep the 4th pick. Lebron, Pelinka, Jeannie are all highly motivated to win now.
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Post#394 » by nzahir » Fri May 31, 2019 6:17 pm

Ball so hard wrote:
Penberthy wrote:#4 for #8 and #10

Beverly (20) Ball (28) Bonga
Reddick (28) Hart (20) #8
Kuzma (16) Ingram (32)
Lebron (32) Kuzma (16)
Vucevic (34) Wagner (14) #10


Why would the Hawks do this trade. This draft is widely regarded as a 3 player draft. 3 for 8 & 10 make more sense.

Also why would we do this? Nobody good left past 7 imo. Bol is a huge risk with injury and still but raw
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Post#395 » by dockingsched » Fri May 31, 2019 6:48 pm

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Post#396 » by Ball so hard » Fri May 31, 2019 8:31 pm

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I like Culver. I have him ahead of Garland on my board.

I'd go in the following order with the 4th.

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Post#397 » by Danny Darko » Fri May 31, 2019 8:42 pm

I'm sure we'd do it, but sending Kuz after the draft, the pro laker interviews (see Josh Hart) and this, it would be cold for sure

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Post#398 » by Slava » Fri May 31, 2019 9:11 pm

Danny Darko wrote:I'm sure we'd do it, but sending Kuz after the draft, the pro laker interviews (see Josh Hart) and this, it would be cold for sure

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Its kind of normal isn't it? I remember an MWP interview where he said Dr. Buss used to invite one player for breakfast every week to build relationships.
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Re: All things number 4. Trade or draft? Let the rumors begin 

Post#399 » by TyCobb » Fri May 31, 2019 9:11 pm

Keep them all, sign a max FA, draft another prospect. Dynasty.
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Post#400 » by loveshaq786 » Fri May 31, 2019 9:17 pm

TyCobb wrote:Keep them all, sign a max FA, draft another prospect. Dynasty.


I agree. Even if it's for Anthony Davis, the most we should give up is lonzo ball, Ingram, and the number 4 pick. I don't think we should include kuzma or hart. They are ready to play right now and be serviceable, plus they're getting paid peanuts, in comparison to Ingram and lonzo ball.

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