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victorhe · Post #41 » by **victorhe** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:34 am

I don't understand. Can we all just stop fighting and treat each other with more respect? Although we all disagree on a lot of things, we all want Lakers to do well right? Hating Kobe, hating Lin, or anyone else will irritate certain group of people. Got step in another person's shoes to feel it. If people look at Laker fans just stab at each other, it looks bad on us. Sometimes joking at certain things are not really that funny.

This team just doesn't have many very talented players and are plagued with injuries. It is no body's fault that it's not doing well, let's just all hope for the best for the team and support and encourage each other man. Come on...

Marionettetc · Post #42 » by **Marionettetc** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:00 am

victorhe wrote:I don't understand. Can we all just stop fighting and treat each other with more respect? Although we all disagree on a lot of things, we all want Lakers to do well right? Hating Kobe, hating Lin, or anyone else will irritate certain group of people. Got step in another person's shoes to feel it. If people look at Laker fans just stab at each other, it looks bad on us. Sometimes joking at certain things are not really that funny.

This team just doesn't have many very talented players and are plagued with injuries. It is no body's fault that it's not doing well, let's just all hope for the best for the team and support and encourage each other man. Come on...

Yeah! Us long time Lakers fans have to stick together, right?

Laker_Kid · Post #43 » by **Laker_Kid** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:15 am

victorhe wrote:I don't understand. Can we all just stop fighting and treat each other with more respect? Although we all disagree on a lot of things, we all want Lakers to do well right? Hating Kobe, hating Lin, or anyone else will irritate certain group of people. Got step in another person's shoes to feel it. If people look at Laker fans just stab at each other, it looks bad on us. Sometimes joking at certain things are not really that funny.

This team just doesn't have many very talented players and are plagued with injuries. It is no body's fault that it's not doing well, let's just all hope for the best for the team and support and encourage each other man. Come on...

Welcome to the internet dude.

Pointgod · Post #44 » by **Pointgod** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:28 am

Bobcats need a replacement at the point with Kemba out for 6 weeks. We could do Lin for Lance and a 2nd or Lin for Biyombo and 2 seconds in a straight salary dump.

ChokeFasncists · Post #45 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:40 am

~lol~ Nice one.

Well what I said wasn't wrong. He is the only guy on the roster who can single-handedly win games.

The problem is that he can't do it consistently.

Right now, I wouldn't say he can single-handedly bring the team into contention or being a five hundred team, but he can just do it once in a while and that 'd be enough to possibly disturb the tank. That's not good in this situation.

gamer4Life · Post #46 » by **gamer4Life** » Tue Feb 3, 2015 10:39 am

Maybe trade Lin for a bag of chips, at least the Lakers don't have to put up with his dumb bible verses.

But be warned, God might smite the Lakers if they trade him.

Tim Horton · Post #47 » by **Tim Horton** » Tue Feb 3, 2015 3:13 pm

^ wrong board bud lol

Post #48 » by **TyCobb** » Tue Feb 3, 2015 5:26 pm

gamer4Life wrote:Maybe trade Lin for a bag of chips, at least the Lakers don't have to put up with his dumb bible verses.

But be warned, God might smite the Lakers if they trade him.

Huh? God is a Lakers fan. We'll be alright if we traded Lin.

laduane1 · Post #49 » by **laduane1** » Sat Feb 7, 2015 8:27 am

Any trade the Lakers do, they only need to get back draft picks. We need to start over and older players coming back is not what they want. assets, not contracts.

Hank7 · Post #50 » by **Hank7** » Mon Mar 2, 2015 4:58 pm

bws94 wrote:Garbage. Don't put me in this. Seriously. Are you guys Cutch of Clutchfans now. Please. This is garbage.

If Lin keeps this up you may have something to smile about bws94 (I can't help but remember that Steve Blake signed a 4-year 16-million dollar contract in 2010 and then averaged 4 points a game in year 1...then 5 points a game in year 2) . With BS allowing more PnR play, Lin will likely continue this roll because this is his game. I'm surprised that BS appears to be moving away from the Princeton, because it's an offense that's easier for Clarkson.

bws94 · Post #51 » by **bws94** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 6:47 am

Hank7 wrote:
bws94 wrote:Garbage. Don't put me in this. Seriously. Are you guys Cutch of Clutchfans now. Please. This is garbage.

If Lin keeps this up you may have something to smile about bws94 (I can't help but remember that Steve Blake signed a 4-year 16-million dollar contract in 2010 and then averaged 4 points a game in year 1...then 5 points a game in year 2) . With BS allowing more PnR play, Lin will likely continue this roll because this is his game. I'm surprised that BS appears to be moving away from the Princeton, because it's an offense that's easier for Clarkson.

I 'm sorry, I'm not into this forum. I've been trying to tell folks here the real Lin steps his game up in the 2nd half, makes big plays and buckets, has intangibles, is a winning player and that's exactly who we are seeing now post ASB. This inconsistent Lin has to do, as I see it, with a very slow acclimating to the system and players by Lin that made him think too much. Him doubting himself and if used inconsistently, exacerbating Lin's tendency to over-think and doubt himself. This is the Lin that is the reason for his ardent fans and it isn't only because he scores or makes a nice pass here and there, it is because he is a team player and he plays the game the "right" way (as Chris Paul and other NBA players have said). That is what attracted me to start watching the Knicks again when I would watch any other team in NYC but because I disliked so much how they played. But he brought back team play and even if he didn't have "Linsanity", that was refreshing to see on the Knicks then.

So, mods here don't like Lin, and a whole bunch of prominent posters, so be it. I think he's fun to watch, he's clearly a Staples favorite, he's no longer overhyped but somewhat underrated now and as far as I'm concerned in this forum, underappreciated. I'd rather talk about the other players now because of that and when Lin signs somewhere else, I wish the Lakers luck because I've loved a lot of great Lakers teams over the years and I like some of the guys on the team like Clarkson, Randle, and if Davis stays him and Ellington.

EArl · Post #52 » by **EArl** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 9:36 am

Why didn't he play like this before the deadline so we could have traded his ass. :nonono:

miggs · Post #53 » by **miggs** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 11:36 am

This is why I didn't want Lin, I knew these annoying Lin fans would come along with him and eventually we'd find ourselves here. Can't wait till he's gone

aaron_gray · Post #54 » by **aaron_gray** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 12:20 pm

Scenario 1: Lakers play Lin and he plays well. Lin likes Los Angeles, gets a fat ass contract from someone next season.

Scenario 2: Lakers play Lin, he struggles. Lin might like Los Angeles, will get a smaller contract, maybe resigns with the Lakers.

Scenario 3: Lakers don't play Lin, he plays well. Lin might like Los Angeles, will get a smaller contract, maybe resigns with the Lakers.

Scenario 4: Lakers don't play Lin, he struggles. Lin doesn't like Los Angeles, will get very small contract, maybe resigns with the Lakers.

Instead of banking on Lin to struggle, the Lakers could just straight up not play him as much to lower his value and increase the chance that he can be resigned on the cheap. The dominant strategy for the Lakers here is to not give Lin ample playing time.

bws94 · Post #55 » by **bws94** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 3:45 pm

miggs wrote:This is why I didn't want Lin, I knew these annoying Lin fans would come along with him and eventually we'd find ourselves here. Can't wait till he's gone

Not Lin's fault and there are annoyances in life. A good amount of fans at Staples Center like Lin, they were chanting MVP at him in his last home game. And maybe some people's attitudes about Lin and simplistic generalizing about his fans make some moderate Lin fans like myself defensive. Lin is a good locker room guy and now a very productive player so it would seem to make sense to root for him while he wears the uniform.

LApwnd · Post #56 » by **LApwnd** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 4:11 pm

dudes trying his best to raise his value for off-season in addition to ruining our tank....thanks Lin!

spaceballer · Post #57 » by **spaceballer** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 4:43 pm

aaron_gray wrote:Instead of banking on Lin to struggle, the Lakers could just straight up not play him as much to lower his value and increase the chance that he can be resigned on the cheap. The dominant strategy for the Lakers here is to not give Lin ample playing time.

Last night, Lin played the least minutes out of all the guards.

Clarkson (PG): 33min
Ellington (SG): 37min
Lin (coming off the bench to back up both the PG and SG slots): 30min

Kobe (SG): out with injury
Price (PG): out with injury
Swaggy(SG): out with injury

So there's literally no one else to play backup guard unless you want Clarkson or Ellington to play 48minutes.

Lin was the game leading scorer (also lead the team in assists, steals, tied for blocks) despite not getting more than 30minutes (doing both PG and SG since Kobe, Price, Swaggy are all injured). Scott is already playing him the least out of all guards on the roster who are not injured.

LApwnd · Post #58 » by **LApwnd** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 4:47 pm

spaceballer wrote:
aaron_gray wrote:Instead of banking on Lin to struggle, the Lakers could just straight up not play him as much to lower his value and increase the chance that he can be resigned on the cheap. The dominant strategy for the Lakers here is to not give Lin ample playing time.

Last night, Lin played the least minutes out of all the guards.

Clarkson (PG): 33min
Ellington (SG): 37min
Lin (coming off the bench to back up both the PG and SG slots): 30min

Kobe (SG): out with injury
Price (PG): out with injury
Swaggy(SG): out with injury

So there's literally no one else to play backup guard unless you want Clarkson or Ellington to play 48minutes.

Lin was the game leading scorer (also lead the team in assists, steals, tied for blocks) despite not getting more than 30minutes (doing both PG and SG since Kobe, Price, Swaggy are all injured). Scott is already playing him the least out of all guards on the roster who are not injured.

and its also a bad strategy if you do want him back not to play him, he'll sour on the coaching staff.

miggs · Post #59 » by **miggs** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 11:17 pm

bws94 wrote:
miggs wrote:This is why I didn't want Lin, I knew these annoying Lin fans would come along with him and eventually we'd find ourselves here. Can't wait till he's gone

Not Lin's fault and there are annoyances in life. A good amount of fans at Staples Center like Lin, they were chanting MVP at him in his last home game. And maybe some people's attitudes about Lin and simplistic generalizing about his fans make some moderate Lin fans like myself defensive. Lin is a good locker room guy and now a very productive player so it would seem to make sense to root for him while he wears the uniform.

Yes there are nuisances in life, however, not all must be integrated into our lives going forward, some can simply be pushed out of the way. It's how we have something called "fired" "let go" "terminated" when the company doesn't see you in the direction it's heading in despite any recent success there. I'm pretty damn sure Lin is looking to start and he should be, just not with the Lakers.

Thing about Lin fans is they are pretty much all still convinced Lin can produce like Linsanity's days if only he had the right situation which according to you Lin fans, has yet to materialize again like in NY. The poor kid just gets no chances you say, and that's fine to have your own opinion, again, I just don't want to be dealing with it past this summer. I'm REALLY hoping we don't keep him. I don't see him fitting in at all and as an added bonus, I'd love to rid this board of Lin fans, just too much bs to deal with when talking to them. I don't mean you specifically, as I don't recognize your poster name but on GB, lord have mercy man, y'all Lin fans are downright delusional way too often to have a rational conversation about Lin and his future roles.

bws94 · Post #60 » by **bws94** » Thu Mar 5, 2015 1:12 am

miggs wrote:
bws94 wrote:
miggs wrote:This is why I didn't want Lin, I knew these annoying Lin fans would come along with him and eventually we'd find ourselves here. Can't wait till he's gone

Not Lin's fault and there are annoyances in life. A good amount of fans at Staples Center like Lin, they were chanting MVP at him in his last home game. And maybe some people's attitudes about Lin and simplistic generalizing about his fans make some moderate Lin fans like myself defensive. Lin is a good locker room guy and now a very productive player so it would seem to make sense to root for him while he wears the uniform.

Yes there are nuisances in life, however, not all must be integrated into our lives going forward, some can simply be pushed out of the way. It's how we have something called "fired" "let go" "terminated" when the company doesn't see you in the direction it's heading in despite any recent success there. I'm pretty damn sure Lin is looking to start and he should be, just not with the Lakers.

Thing about Lin fans is they are pretty much all still convinced Lin can produce like Linsanity's days if only he had the right situation which according to you Lin fans, has yet to materialize again like in NY. The poor kid just gets no chances you say, and that's fine to have your own opinion, again, I just don't want to be dealing with it past this summer. I'm REALLY hoping we don't keep him. I don't see him fitting in at all and as an added bonus, I'd love to rid this board of Lin fans, just too much bs to deal with when talking to them. I don't mean you specifically, as I don't recognize your poster name but on GB, lord have mercy man, y'all Lin fans are downright delusional way too often to have a rational conversation about Lin and his future roles.

Lin fans are not a monolith and no, not all fans of Lin think anything like he can produce like Linsanity. There are some general characteristics he has like stepping up in the 4th quarter and making big plays that took forever to surface as a Laker and being a team player that fans like about Lin.

I disagree that anyone should concern themselves with any fan of any player and the mods should just deal with the extreme fans, not isolate and alienate ones that aren't. Lin or anyone else. And I don't agree with lumping all people together. When that happens you create a them and us, and that's not useful. Right now, Lin is a Laker and if you want to see entertaining games, whether it is an L or W, and I know some are rooting for the tank, Lin is part of it but there are other LA players that are as well and it is the teamwork I enjoy most, not any 1 player or ISOs. After this season, Lin is probably gone.