2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

[Princeinrevolt]

If we fall out of top three our first round draft pick conveys to Philly? (If that's wrong please correct me) Is there anything we can reasonably offer Philly prior to lottery night to get them to let us keep our pick even if we get unlucky and land outside of top three?

Perhaps offering our late first round pick from Houston plus Randle or Nance or??? Don't eviscerate me for this post. I'm just trying to come up with ways we can ensure equity from our position.

If you were Philly, would you take Randle or Nance Jr., and a late first round pick, for a top 4-6 pick? There is no reasonable offer.

And I don't think you can remove the protection on the pick by trading for it.

[AcecardZ]

If we fall out of top three our first round draft pick conveys to Philly? (If that's wrong please correct me) Is there anything we can reasonably offer Philly prior to lottery night to get them to let us keep our pick even if we get unlucky and land outside of top three?

Perhaps offering our late first round pick from Houston plus Randle or Nance or??? Don't eviscerate me for this post. I'm just trying to come up with ways we can ensure equity from our position.

If you were Philly, would you take Randle or Nance Jr., and a late first round pick, for a top 4-6 pick? There is no reasonable offer.

And I don't think you can remove the protection on the pick by trading for it.

It guarantees them something this year. If we keep our pick this year what does Philly end up with? We'll have a +/- 50% chance of retaining the pick this year.

And I don't see why the protection couldn't be removed per agreement. They could always just have Philly make the pick and trade the player to us for the Houston first rounder + whoever else we agree to throw in.

[Princeinrevolt]

If we fall out of top three our first round draft pick conveys to Philly? (If that's wrong please correct me) Is there anything we can reasonably offer Philly prior to lottery night to get them to let us keep our pick even if we get unlucky and land outside of top three?

Perhaps offering our late first round pick from Houston plus Randle or Nance or??? Don't eviscerate me for this post. I'm just trying to come up with ways we can ensure equity from our position.

If you were Philly, would you take Randle or Nance Jr., and a late first round pick, for a top 4-6 pick? There is no reasonable offer.

And I don't think you can remove the protection on the pick by trading for it.

It guarantees them something this year. If we keep our pick this year what does Philly end up with? We'll have a +/- 50% chance of retaining the pick this year.

And I don't see why the protection couldn't be removed per agreement. They could always just have Philly make the pick and trade the player to us for the Houston first rounder + whoever else we agree to throw in.

That could be possible, but If I was the Sixers GM, I would never do it in a million years. Even if we keep the pick, next years pick will still be more valuable than the late first round pick, and whoever we throw in. Unless you want to throw in Russell or Ingram, it will not work.

[AcecardZ]

If you were Philly, would you take Randle or Nance Jr., and a late first round pick, for a top 4-6 pick? There is no reasonable offer.

And I don't think you can remove the protection on the pick by trading for it.

It guarantees them something this year. If we keep our pick this year what does Philly end up with? We'll have a +/- 50% chance of retaining the pick this year.

And I don't see why the protection couldn't be removed per agreement. They could always just have Philly make the pick and trade the player to us for the Houston first rounder + whoever else we agree to throw in.

That could be possible, but If I was the Sixers GM, I would never do it in a million years. Even if we keep the pick, next years pick will still be more valuable than the late first round pick, and whoever we throw in. Unless you want to throw in Russell or Ingram, it will not work.

If Philly doesn't get our pick this year do they 100% get our pick next year? There's a decent chance we improve enough to where next year's pick ends up being in the mid to late teens. In that situation getting a late 1st plus a player like Nance or Randle would be a win for Philly.

[TheAntiTrump]

It guarantees them something this year. If we keep our pick this year what does Philly end up with? We'll have a +/- 50% chance of retaining the pick this year.

And I don't see why the protection couldn't be removed per agreement. They could always just have Philly make the pick and trade the player to us for the Houston first rounder + whoever else we agree to throw in.

That could be possible, but If I was the Sixers GM, I would never do it in a million years. Even if we keep the pick, next years pick will still be more valuable than the late first round pick, and whoever we throw in. Unless you want to throw in Russell or Ingram, it will not work.

If Philly doesn't get our pick this year do they 100% get our pick next year? There's a decent chance we improve enough to where next year's pick ends up being in the mid to late teens. In that situation getting a late 1st plus a player like Nance or Randle would be a win for Philly.

As a Sixer fan let me tell you, even if a trade like that were possible....and it is not, the Sixers would say no way. The trade deadline has past. And no more trades can even happen until draft night, so no arrangement could be made before the draft lottery. Only thing that could happen would be IF the Lakers lost their pick to us, then they could offer up something just to get it back on draft night. But they would laugh at a offer of either Nance or Randle. Neither of them are even better then our Back-up Holmes. Let alone Simmons, Dario, S.Long. So we have more then enough Bigs ( Too many )...and with 4 2nd rounders...if they wanted to secure another Late 1st rounder...they easily could.


My true belief is that Philly won't be too upset even if L.A. keeps the pick. Cause no matter what you believe, the Lakers are gonna be a terrible next season as well. Especially if they draft a PG like Ball, and then have to go through his vast growing pains his first year. L.A. will definitely be one of the top-4 worst records next season. And with the likes of Porter, Ayton and even Mamba available in 2018...that is a lot better asset to have then another pick in this draft.

[AcecardZ]

Since Philly seems completely incapable of drafting a player who can stay on the court I would think you'd be all for them making a move for a couple of players who've proven they can stay healthy.

[AcecardZ]

And fwiw if the Lakers played in the Leastern conference I'd feel good about their chances of having a better record than the Sixers next year.

[LakersSoul]

Another late draft potential is tall F Zach Collins if he decides to come out this year. He had that great game against SC (14/13 and 6 blocks in 23 minutes) and would be an good investment down the line.

[chefy]

we need a big.

[AcecardZ]

we need a big.

Every team not named New Orleans can say the same thing. That doesn't mean I don't agree with though.

More easily attainable would be an elite PG. I really hope we get the chance to draft one this year.

[LakersSoul]

we need a big.

We need a BPA!! More talent in the team is a must. We must use them to build a nucleus of talent plus pieces to trade over the next 2-3 summers.

[LakersSoul]

Semi Ojeleye
6'7"
6'9.5" wingspan
23 yo in December

SMU played him more of a PF but he is a 3andD PF/SF athlete in NBA. Big bull that is solid on defense and can shoot the 3s. Semi shot 78.5% FT and 42.4% 3s this year. Semi was a Duke guy but transfered to SMU after sophomore year and had to sit out a year. He is althletic and can play multiple roles. I see him almost like a young MWP type of guy. He would be an interesting pick at Houston's 28. He is a bit small for PF (small ball 4 is good) but that is why he could fall down to #28. What do you guys think?

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[Spens1]

At 23, would we want him with our first or do we buy a 2nd?

[LakersSoul]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19106290/frank-mason-iii-kansas-wins-john-r-wooden-award-nation-top-player


NCAA awards which usually do not mean high draft picks but the following awards were handed out on Friday:

Most Outstanding Player Award (John Wooden Award) - Frank Mason

Bob Cousey Award (Top PG) - Frank Mason
Julius Erving Award (Top SF) - Josh Hart
Jerry West Award (Top SG) - Monk
Karl Malone Award (Top PF) - Johnathan Motley
KAJ Award (Top Center) - Przemek Karnowski, Gonzaga

[LakersSoul]

At 23, would we want him with our first or do we buy a 2nd?

Many think Ojeleye could go earlier than #28 so if he passes the test with Ryan West, I think we could get a younger MWP type of player.

Another guy that is slowly moving up in ranking before the combines is sophomore PG Jawun Evans. He is very confident and he believe he belongs in the same sentence as Fultz, Ball. Quick, good vision, great shooter and aggressive at driving into the lane.

19.2 ppg, 6.4 apg, 3.4 rpg, 1.8 spg plus a 81% FT shooter that hits close to 40% from 3 point range.

Only downside is size at 6'1" which will make him fall into the late first or into the second round.

[LakersSoul]

Consider this, the Cs have too many picks and do not know what to do with them.

In 2016, they had 3 first rounds (#3 Jaylen Brown, #16 Yabusele, #23 Zizic) and 5 second rounders in 2016 (#31 Deyonta Davis traded to Memphis, #35 Zagorac traded to Memphis, #45 Demetrius Jackson, #51 Bentil, #58 Nader).

In 2017, they have the Brooklyn first round pick (swap) and 4 second rounders (Cleveland, Clippers, Minn, Boston). The Cs have so many second rounders that they have to either trade them or stash them. They do NOT have enough room on their roster for all the second rounders.

I think we should pry a few picks from them for a future second round picks. With Ryan West and the recruiting team, I like our chances to add 1-2 gems.

[AmusingFiddle]

Clarkson and Houston pick for PG13 this summer. If not we get him in FA.

Doable is PG and his agent make it known its Lakers or no one.


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[ALL HAIL]

Clarkson and Houston pick for PG13 this summer. If not we get him in FA.

Doable is PG and his agent make it known its Lakers or no one.


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Not if he makes one of the All-NBA squads. Unfortunately, because of the manner in which he closed the season, that's looking more and more like a real possibility.

If you think about it, one of Durant going down, Gordon Hayward missing too many games, and Anthony Davis being treated like a center could be the difference between George and no George.

[JohnVancouver]

I personally like Caleb Swanigan .. he has worked hard to develop his game after a failed attempt at coming out last year.

How do you fail at this? Just tell them you're gay

[JohnVancouver]

I'm in agreement with the above posters that want athletic wings in this draft.

With the 1st I would take Jackson/Ball/Isaac (in that order as of now).

With the WAS 1st I would hope for Ferguson/Justin Jackson/Bacon (in no particular order at this time).

With the 2nd (if LAL misses out on their 1st) I would target one of Hart/Brooks/Thornwell/Trier/Iwundo/Blossomgame (again, in no particular order at this time).

Huh? Where/how did we get Was first from?