Lakers Trade IDEAS

[zimpy27]

Let’s imagine Westbrook is traded to OKC or we have some sort of deal that opens up our full MLE. I love the OKC deal.

Westbrook, 2027 1st (unprotected), 2nd rounder for Williams, Favors, Ty Jerome.

If that deal happened (which would open up a trade exception of $30M), would you prioritize Tyus Jones? I feel like he’d be the perfect fit.. other than he’s small and we saw how being small killed us this year. However, he shoots the ball extremely well and doesn’t turn the ball over. He’s bizarro world Russell Westbrook and I can’t think of a better fit. Making that deal would give us access to the full MLE.

If that happened, we’d have to spend every other resource we have (BLE of $4M, vet minimums, Nunn, THT) on wings. So for example:

- Make OKC trade as mentioned above
- Trade THT to Detroit for Kelly Olynyk
- Sign Otto Porter, BLE
- Sign Tyus Jones to full MLE (4 years, 10M a season)
- Sign Derrick Jones Jr, Carmelo, Tony Snell

PG: Jones/Nunn/Jerome
SG: Williams/Reaves/Snell
SF: LeBron/Porter/Stanley
PF: Olynyk/Carmelo/Jones Jr/Gabriel
C: Davis/Favors

I love the look of that team. We’d also have a $30M trade exception we could use at the deadline to acquire a team wanting to get off salary. Rozier? Capela? Brogdon? Hield? Hayward?

OKC doesn't have the capspace next season because of Kemba dead cap and SGA max deal kicking in.
They'd have to do this deal before next season begins. But if they did, they'd be above the luxury tax with this deal and this trade would force them to not be able to use 10m MLE or 4m BAE themselves. I doubt they do it unfortunately..

The 3-team trade idea is the only realistic path to the 10m MLE and 4m BAE as pretty much no teams have capspace this offseason (and the only ones that do would be unlikely to trade with the lakers).

I think you're a little off on that one.

Their current team salary is just above $82M. If you add Westbrook's $44M, that's $126M. Luxury tax is $136.6. Also in that same deal they'd subtract Favors' salary ($9.7M), Williams ($2.0M), Ty Jerome ($2.4M). So their team salary would be around $112M and way below luxury tax.

But yes, this is certainly a deal that would need to be completed prior to the draft. It would be very similar to what Boston and OKC did last year with Horford/Kemba.

Yeah I'm a little off.
Westbrook (47m) + SGA (30m) + Kemba+Singler (28.5m) + Giddey,Dort,Mann,Roby,Poku,Bazley,Muscala,Maledon,JRE (29.5m) = 135m
Then they have 3 FRP salaries 12-14m
Then they have to pay to keep Aaron Wiggins 2-3m.
They will be above 147m, maybe they can sneak under by organsiing a buy out or Westbrook but they still don't get to use 10m MLE or 4m BAE by taking this path and they spend ~30m more money than they need to all for one FRP.

I like the deal for Lakers but I think OKC would want more than an FRP in compensation for this path if they choose it.

[zimpy27]

Possibly the best path forward
A team can take 25% more salary than they give in a trade.
Westbrook ($47m) could be traded to another team without capspace and Lakers can get back $37.5m in salary. That saves them $9.5m but doesn't get them low enough to use the 10m MLE or 4m BAE.
However, if a third team takes the $37.5m then they can give the Lakers a package of players of $30m. That saves the Lakers $17m, which allows Lakers to use 10m MLE, 4m BAE, and enough minimum contracts to stay under the hard cap.

Example:
Westbrook+FRP to CHO
Hayward+PJ to IND
Hield+McConnel to LAL

McConnell, Hield, 10m MLE, LeBron, Davis -- Nunn, Reaves, THT, Gabriel, 4m BAE

Best thing about this path is that Lakers can give good value and get a decent package back while being able to improve team in FA.

Love this deal. It's an even better version of the OKC deal. And it literally just fits. We'd be hard-capped because we're using the MLE and BIA but that doesn't really matter in this scenario as we'd have great salary filler for deals.

LeBron: $44.5M
Davis: $38M
Hield: $21.2M
McConnell: $8.1M
THT: $10.3M
Nunn: $5.3M
Stanley: $2.4M
Reaves: $1.6M
Gabriel: $1.9M

Total- $133.3M

MLE: $10M
BAE: $4.0M

Total: $147.3M

I believe the hard cap number for next year is around $155M - Which means we'd have just enough room to add in a few more vet minimum players.

Yep. Lakers should be aiming to trade Westbrook in a situation where they take $30-$32m back in salary. If they can do that then Lakers get a nice package of players back that don't have too much salary owing in future, then they get to use MLE and BAE in FA to build round the new team. This means that they don't have to target fit so much in the trade and go for best value, then think about fit after with the exceptions and vet min contracts.

[Landsberger]

Starting to look like threading a needle at 80mph

[zuju]

Aside from signing FAs, we can look to buy some 2nd round picks or sign some undrafted similar to how they did with Reaves

We sorely need energy and we need to go big. That was big part of the recipe we win the championship in the bubble.

Any potential target we can get in the draft?

[Beethoven]

All of this dont mean anything if ad keeps getting injured .. dude's lower half of his body has bones made of glass shard, we need to trade this guy

[zimpy27]

Do Lakers look at Oladipo?

40% from 3 and playing well in playoffs. Looks like he's worth $25m a season if he can be healthy but will go for less than full MLE (4/$40m) based on health issues.

[Slava]

Do Lakers look at Oladipo?

40% from 3 and playing well in playoffs. Looks like he's worth $25m a season if he can be healthy but will go for less than full MLE (4/$40m) based on health issues.

At this point, I'd settle for consistent availability rather than high risk high reward types. Lakers need to minimize all risk going into next season, as it is likely the last meaningful title chance unless LeBron extends and maintains his elite production.

[Ball so hard]

No way in hell you trade an unprotected pick given this old an injury prone core. Do teams still trade unprotected picks? We seriously need to consider a rebuild at this point. Seems as if any move we make will end up putting us in a deeper hole. I feel like 99% of the trades i'm seeing are simply wishful thinking.

[slifersd]

No way in hell you trade an unprotected pick given this old an injury prone core. Do teams still trade unprotected picks? We seriously need to consider a rebuild at this point. Seems as if any move we make will end up putting us in a deeper hole. I feel like 99% of the trades i'm seeing are simply wishful thinking.

We can't really rebuild in the truest sense right now because we owe Pelicans all our picks till 2025. If we trade away our stars, we can get some firs tround picks but their new teams wouldn't be bad enough for those picks to be lottery picks. We have to find a way to soldier through the next couple of years before deciding on a direction to move forward

[Ball so hard]

No way in hell you trade an unprotected pick given this old an injury prone core. Do teams still trade unprotected picks? We seriously need to consider a rebuild at this point. Seems as if any move we make will end up putting us in a deeper hole. I feel like 99% of the trades i'm seeing are simply wishful thinking.

We can't really rebuild in the truest sense right now because we owe Pelicans all our picks till 2025. If we trade away our stars, we can get some firs tround picks but their new teams wouldn't be bad enough for those picks to be lottery picks. We have to find a way to soldier through the next couple of years before deciding on a direction to move forward

The same was said when the Pelicans traded AD to us. How did that turn out? It's hard to predict the exact timing of when a team will be bad. The picks we owe is a sunk cost... it's irrelevant where they end up. I'm a firm believer in it's best to start a rebuild a bit early than 1-2 years too late. Another injury riddled season by AD and his value plummets.

[IceManBK1]

Lakers should bring back both dlo and Randle lol.. I think both r attainable as Randle is rumored to want out. And timberwolves might be willing to entertain offers for dlo since he's a no show in 1st rd vs grizzlies. Maybe LeBron to Knicks for Randle and Noel. Westbrook to Min for dlo and McDaniels.

Dlo
Monk
McDaniels
Randle
AD

I would become a lakers fan again.

[TylersLakers]

Lakers should bring back both dlo and Randle lol.. I think both r attainable as Randle is rumored to want out. And timberwolves might be willing to entertain offers for dlo since he's a no show in 1st rd vs grizzlies. Maybe LeBron to Knicks for Randle and Noel. Westbrook to Min for dlo and McDaniels.

Dlo
Monk
McDaniels
Randle
AD

I would become a lakers fan again.

Wait.. Minnesota would accept a trade like that? LOL. I'd do that immediately.

[IceManBK1]

Lakers should bring back both dlo and Randle lol.. I think both r attainable as Randle is rumored to want out. And timberwolves might be willing to entertain offers for dlo since he's a no show in 1st rd vs grizzlies. Maybe LeBron to Knicks for Randle and Noel. Westbrook to Min for dlo and McDaniels.

Dlo
Monk
McDaniels
Randle
AD

I would become a lakers fan again.

Wait.. Minnesota would accept a trade like that? LOL. I'd do that immediately.

get couple 1st rd picks from knicks and attach them to westbrook trade to Min.

[TylersLakers]

OKC doesn't have the capspace next season because of Kemba dead cap and SGA max deal kicking in.
They'd have to do this deal before next season begins. But if they did, they'd be above the luxury tax with this deal and this trade would force them to not be able to use 10m MLE or 4m BAE themselves. I doubt they do it unfortunately..

The 3-team trade idea is the only realistic path to the 10m MLE and 4m BAE as pretty much no teams have capspace this offseason (and the only ones that do would be unlikely to trade with the lakers).

I think you're a little off on that one.

Their current team salary is just above $82M. If you add Westbrook's $44M, that's $126M. Luxury tax is $136.6. Also in that same deal they'd subtract Favors' salary ($9.7M), Williams ($2.0M), Ty Jerome ($2.4M). So their team salary would be around $112M and way below luxury tax.

But yes, this is certainly a deal that would need to be completed prior to the draft. It would be very similar to what Boston and OKC did last year with Horford/Kemba.

Yeah I'm a little off.
Westbrook (47m) + SGA (30m) + Kemba+Singler (28.5m) + Giddey,Dort,Mann,Roby,Poku,Bazley,Muscala,Maledon,JRE (29.5m) = 135m
Then they have 3 FRP salaries 12-14m
Then they have to pay to keep Aaron Wiggins 2-3m.
They will be above 147m, maybe they can sneak under by organsiing a buy out or Westbrook but they still don't get to use 10m MLE or 4m BAE by taking this path and they spend ~30m more money than they need to all for one FRP.

I like the deal for Lakers but I think OKC would want more than an FRP in compensation for this path if they choose it.

OH, I see what you mean. You're talking about afterwards, once they've acquired Westbrook and it transitions into the New Year. Maybe we take on Muscala and his team option as well to lower the hit?

I would imagine Westbrook takes a buy-out.

[stan francisco]

In trade, get a decent in return for Westbrook ASAP. That should be priority one through five. Defensive PG, 3&D wing, center needed.

In FA. I’d try to get Ricky Rubio. He and Nunn would be pretty solid. If we re-sign Monk, pay no more than he’s worth on defense or let him go elsewhere to become a Monta Ellis type one way player.

To keep AD healthy, surround him with natural born defenders so that he doesn’t have to play defense for three players; guys who do the dirty work to cover for AD’s brittleness. KCP and Caruso come to mind for scrappy guards we could use. We need low profile (affordable) wing and center workhorses, no stars necessary.

Nerlens Noël, Nurkic are good fits at C, Lopez, too.

The best defensive wings available should be targeted. We need a Ron Artest type enforcer wing.

AD for Durant straight up or AD and THT for KD +1? I’d probably do it. AD for DeRozan? No way.

[loveshaq786]

In trade, get a decent in return for Westbrook ASAP. That should be priority one through five. Defensive PG, 3&D wing, center needed.

In FA. I’d try to get Ricky Rubio. He and Nunn would be pretty solid. If we re-sign Monk, pay no more than he’s worth on defense or let him go elsewhere to become a Monta Ellis type one way player.

To keep AD healthy, surround him with natural born defenders so that he doesn’t have to play defense for three players; guys who do the dirty work to cover for AD’s brittleness. KCP and Caruso come to mind for scrappy guards we could use. We need low profile (affordable) wing and center workhorses, no stars necessary.

Nerlens Noël, Nurkic are good fits at C, Lopez, too.

The best defensive wings available should be targeted. We need a Ron Artest type enforcer wing.

AD for Durant straight up or AD and THT for KD +1? I’d probably do it. AD for DeRozan? No way.

Westbrook for brogdon and hield... Is exactly what we need

If we trade AD ... Collins, capella and picks... Or DeRozan and Nikola.... Or KD and Seth.. we add tht,Nunn, and our pick, or Jimmy Butler and PJ, we add THT

Our team is complete with any of those trades

[TylersLakers]

In trade, get a decent in return for Westbrook ASAP. That should be priority one through five. Defensive PG, 3&D wing, center needed.

In FA. I’d try to get Ricky Rubio. He and Nunn would be pretty solid. If we re-sign Monk, pay no more than he’s worth on defense or let him go elsewhere to become a Monta Ellis type one way player.

To keep AD healthy, surround him with natural born defenders so that he doesn’t have to play defense for three players; guys who do the dirty work to cover for AD’s brittleness. KCP and Caruso come to mind for scrappy guards we could use. We need low profile (affordable) wing and center workhorses, no stars necessary.

Nerlens Noël, Nurkic are good fits at C, Lopez, too.

The best defensive wings available should be targeted. We need a Ron Artest type enforcer wing.

AD for Durant straight up or AD and THT for KD +1? I’d probably do it. AD for DeRozan? No way.

KD isn't getting traded. Lol.

[SK21209]

All of this dont mean anything if ad keeps getting injured .. dude's lower half of his body has bones made of glass shard, we need to trade this guy

For what? Trading AD for a worse but less injury prone player doesn’t help us in any way if the goal is winning a championship. We’re not winning **** with LeBron + fringe all stars and/or role players.

[zimpy27]

All of this dont mean anything if ad keeps getting injured .. dude's lower half of his body has bones made of glass shard, we need to trade this guy

For what? Trading AD for a worse but less injury prone player doesn’t help us in any way if the goal is winning a championship. We’re not winning **** with LeBron + fringe all stars and/or role players.

I'd be interested to know what AD gets in interest. Wouldn't put him on the block but I'd listen to a team trying to pry him away from the Lakers. He could still fetch quite a bit

[tamaraw08]

All of this dont mean anything if ad keeps getting injured .. dude's lower half of his body has bones made of glass shard, we need to trade this guy

For what? Trading AD for a worse but less injury prone player doesn’t help us in any way if the goal is winning a championship. We’re not winning **** with LeBron + fringe all stars and/or role players.

I'd be interested to know what AD gets in interest. Wouldn't put him on the block but I'd listen to a team trying to pry him away from the Lakers. He could still fetch quite a bit

Bulls FO have got to be very frustrated with Lonzo Ball's tendency to get injured AND very slow recovery. Lavine is a free agent, also has various injuries. AD has been.....very frustrating to say the least.
AD comes home Chicago, Lavine (on a sign and trade)used to play for UCLA, same with Lonzo who grew up here.....
Both teams kneel down and pray that their players don't get injured every 10-15 games.