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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#41 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:49 pm

I want a rebuild. I think the team is baked, and it's only downhill from here. I'm not particularly enamored with anyone on the squad. Lebron is still a good player (which is impressive) but he doesnt have it anymore, and won't recognize/change. AD can be a beast one day....sort of a B+ player the next, and injured the following.

That said....it prob ain't happening. Going down your list....DeRozan, Klay, PG: All guys past it. Agree Demar would be the pick of the three, if I had to take one. But I wouldn't expect a title getting either of those 3.

Wiggins, Markkanen, Levine: Nope. Neither of these get you anywhere.

Young, Mitchell: I think Mitchell would be the best take here. He's matured, he's got a well-rounded game, and would essentially become the leader of the team. If the Lakers were actually able to acquire Mitchell, I think they would be legit contenders (AD staying on the floor, of course)...and would prob be the only scenario besides a rebuild where I'd be somewhat happy. I just acknowledge that it's completely a pipe-dream....and I think the cost in picks would be so much. I'd be cool with 3 first rounders. But given that Knicks deal...I think 4 or even 5 would be the asking price.

Young would be interesting. He'd certainly speed things up, and spread the floor. Between him and our new pick, I think you'd see AD job get alot easier, with things not so clogged up. Both guys also attack the basket, and would draw the opposing center to them. Defensively, we'd still be sub-par....but I'm not so worried about that personally. My issue with Young is his leadership. When Lebron leaves....I feel much much better with the keys in Mitchell's hands for 8-10 years. Young, not so much. Could it work? ...yeah I suppose anything is possible. But he's not the player Mitchell is, IMO....so I'm not sure we solve alot of issues moving forward. We're just better offensively. I agree he's a more realistic get (not very realistic though) but he's also a bit of a settle. Look....all AD needs to do is land wrong again....and it's all kapoot. You've just given 3-4 picks to Atlanta....Lebron retires....AD is essentially a slab of beef out there moving forward. This team is Trae Young, and a bunch of warm bodies. That sound like fun? At least with Mitchell, I think we could immediately move him for a decent haul of picks, and if nothing else...get back to zero.

But here I am going back to where it always goes....what if AD lands wrong? What if AD this, AD that. How long will he still be top level? Just seems so so sooooooooo much easier to move the guy, get a ton of picks, and start with a whole new core. I think all these players we've mentioned are pipe dreams. We gotta send matching salary back to these teams. Guess what? NONE of them want DLo's sorry ass. DLo sucks. He's trash. Garbage. Nobody's wants that dude at a salary matching any of these actually good players. So we're really out of any negotiations right off the bat.

We really have 2 options: We can plug some ho-hum role guy in here...grab a CP3 midlevel contract there....and pray AD stays healthy, and we somehow catch lightning in a bottle, and make some noise. How realistic is that really? And does it actually get us even close to a title? OR we get something for AD while the gettin's good.....and do what OKC just did.

Will we draft anything like a SGA?? Prob not. Will it get us a title? Who knows. But at least we're" Young - Interesting - Fun. And we're not just treading water like we've been doing for the last 3 years.....waiting for Lebron to retire. It's pathetic, and it's really boring. And that's really all we're doing now, isn't it? AD ain't taking this and running. In two years AD's gonna be 33, and an OLD 33 at that. I dunno....I don't see a SINGLE thing on this team worth clutching onto.
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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#42 » by Godfather13 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:41 pm

LakersSoul wrote:Pass on DeRozan and Drummond.

Think Bronny could be sneaky good 3&D smart player, kind of like Caruso or Gabe Vincent with a better 3.

Lakers still have $7 million in their warchest before the year expires to buy some 2nd round picks here. Hope they can get 2 guys that meet JJ’s vision for smart 3&D guys.


It's so hard to say about a rook. For non basketball reasons I do not want Bronny to be drafted to LA. Just think that dynamic has a high chance of going sideways for team chemistry and Bronny's development as a result.
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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#43 » by Godfather13 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:50 pm

Some inside talk of Lakers being in for Kessler and Sexton. Thoughts?

Sexton's never returning to his peak 25 ppg because he's permanently lost his first step burst. But he's healthy and relentless as a competitor. Size limitations aside, he does try on defense, so not a DLo or Austin(for 3/4th of the season), but not a whole lot better. He is a 20 ppg bet whose not gonna vanish in the playoffs.

Kessler gives us some respite in non-AD minutes, and probably could fit well with him too. I don't honestly know much about him.
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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#44 » by LakersSoul » Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:59 pm

Godfather13 wrote:
LakersSoul wrote:Pass on DeRozan and Drummond.

Think Bronny could be sneaky good 3&D smart player, kind of like Caruso or Gabe Vincent with a better 3.

Lakers still have $7 million in their warchest before the year expires to buy some 2nd round picks here. Hope they can get 2 guys that meet JJ’s vision for smart 3&D guys.


It's so hard to say about a rook. For non basketball reasons I do not want Bronny to be drafted to LA. Just think that dynamic has a high chance of going sideways for team chemistry and Bronny's development as a result.


Understand but for me, if I were running the Lakers, I would bring Bron in and ask him if he wants to play with his son. If yes, then it’s a no Rainer to draft him as a prospect and goodwill.

Many forget Bronny was considered a late 1st round pick last year before the heart issue which cleared for play.

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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#45 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:32 pm

@Danfantaks32 - Wanted to quote, but this easier LOL. I agree with everything you said. But this.

@Danfantask32 - My issue with Young is his leadership. When Lebron leaves....


I'm mostly referrring to when Bron Is here, But also said when Bron retires what not, You still have AD/Young ... Young won't be playing the leader ship role, AD will be... I mean neither Is number 1 option, but this will be AD's team, If It's not already.

Agree about AD coming down with Injury as well, I'm even worried that post Bron he might not even want to play for Lakers or play ball In general.

Hopefully by then other stars will become FA and will want to come play with Lakers with out Bron, but only time will tell :).
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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#46 » by Colbinii » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:55 pm

Ladies and Gentleman, we got him!
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Post#47 » by zuju » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:24 pm

Team Roster - Players under contract / Rookies
C Anthony Davis, Colin Castleton
PF LeBron James, Christian Wood
SF Jarred Vanderbilt, Rui Hachimura
SG Austin Reaves, Dalton Knecht, Maxwell Lewis
PG Gabe Vincent, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Bronny James


Team Roster - Players under contract / Rookies / Players with player option / RFA
Max Christie, Jaxson Hayes, Cam Reddish, D'Angelo Russell

Team Roster - Players under contract / Rookies
C Anthony Davis, Jaxson Hayes, Colin Castleton
PF LeBron James, Rui Hachimura, Christian Wood
SF Jarred Vanderbilt, Cam Reddish
SG Austin Reaves, Max Christie, Dalton Knecht, Maxwell Lewis
PG D'Angelo Russell, Gabe Vincent, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Bronny James

Players likely to be able to sign
Spencer Dinwiddie, Taurean Prince

Trade Rui, Dlo (if opt in), Cam Reddish (If opt in), Wood and Gabe for Bigs and 2 way forwards. I don't mind they trade for Murray or Mitchell or Garland or Lauri. Not Trea Young

Targets: Johnathan Issac, Claxton, J Allen, Cam Johnson, BroLo, Mo Wagner etc

Prefer keeping Max Lewis and JHS. See how they progress before trading them. While some fans ask for patience to rookies, they also can't wait to trade rookies after a disappointing season. No one is developing rookies that way. Few rookies can contribute day 1.

Trading AD is not an option for me. Every one know that you have to have 2 ways playersssssss to win Championships. AD is arguably the best 2 way player in the league. You want to trade him cause he can't win a champ for 4 years with LBJ ? What are the value of those picks returned if AD is traded? Late first rounders ?

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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#48 » by Godfather13 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:10 am

LakersSoul wrote:
Godfather13 wrote:
LakersSoul wrote:Pass on DeRozan and Drummond.

Think Bronny could be sneaky good 3&D smart player, kind of like Caruso or Gabe Vincent with a better 3.

Lakers still have $7 million in their warchest before the year expires to buy some 2nd round picks here. Hope they can get 2 guys that meet JJ’s vision for smart 3&D guys.


It's so hard to say about a rook. For non basketball reasons I do not want Bronny to be drafted to LA. Just think that dynamic has a high chance of going sideways for team chemistry and Bronny's development as a result.


Understand but for me, if I were running the Lakers, I would bring Bron in and ask him if he wants to play with his son. If yes, then it’s a no Rainer to draft him as a prospect and goodwill.

Many forget Bronny was considered a late 1st round pick last year before the heart issue which cleared for play.

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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#49 » by LakersSoul » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:15 am

Max signing for 4/32 gives us so many options.

Right now, worst case:
AR/Gabe/Dlo
Max/Bronny/Dinwiddie
Knecht/Vando/Prince/Reddish
Bron/Rui
AD/Hayes/Wood

Would love to add a few players plus 1-2 FRPs to get a solid 3&D wing and add a backup heavy/big center.

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Post#50 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 9:05 am

SlimShady83 wrote:My Reasoning on why I'm choosing Trae for Lakers Star

Assuming AD and Bron will be on the team still, AD 5 and Bron 4 spot.

Lakers have what 2 pics now left? - don't see them trading Knecht? anythings possible

Also while mentioning these stars "IMO" you're going to have to Include 2-3 pics plus of course the salary to match etc.


So I wanted to quote myself on what I said b4 the free angecy frenzy begun - this was "within" 1-2 weeks b4 hand??
I said the players I mentioned, to get them will probably cost 2-3 pics so a mini run down


Klay Thompson Trade: 2 second round picks, Dallas 2031 pic, It involves players what not but only talking about pics here, were there more??

PG13: LEFT IN FA, no trade/pics involved - damn

Pendings results still In progress will edit when all players completed, more over next few days, some might not even get traded

D. Derozan:
D. Mitchell: Just signed 3year deal $150mil
J. Grant:
Wiggins:
Markanen:
Z. Lavine:
T. Young:


LET'S SEE HOW CLOSE I GET LOLS.
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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#51 » by LakersSoul » Tue Jul 2, 2024 10:13 am

SlimShady83 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:My Reasoning on why I'm choosing Trae for Lakers Star

Assuming AD and Bron will be on the team still, AD 5 and Bron 4 spot.

Lakers have what 2 pics now left? - don't see them trading Knecht? anythings possible

Also while mentioning these stars "IMO" you're going to have to Include 2-3 pics plus of course the salary to match etc.


So I wanted to quote myself on what I said b4 the free angecy frenzy begun - this was "within" 1-2 weeks b4 hand??
I said the players I mentioned, to get them will probably cost 2-3 pics so a mini run down


Klay Thompson Trade: 2 second round picks, Dallas 2031 pic, It involves players what not but only talking about pics here, were there more??

PG13: LEFT IN FA, no trade/pics involved - damn

Pendings results still In progress will edit when all players completed, more over next few days, some might not even get traded

D. Derozan:
D. Mitchell:
J. Grant:
Wiggins:
Markanen:
Z. Lavine:
T. Young:


LET'S SEE HOW CLOSE I GET LOLS.


Would love to give out Dlo+ matching and 1 FRP for JGrant or Cam Johnson.

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Post#52 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:05 pm

Why is everyone so high on Grant? I mean I like him and that, but he doesn't IMO fit with AD/Bron?
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Post#53 » by LakersSoul » Tue Jul 2, 2024 1:05 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Why is everyone so high on Grant? I mean I like him and that, but he doesn't IMO fit with AD/Bron?


Wing defender thats volume 3 shooter. Perfect 3&D with good size and length.

Doesn’t need the ball and plays his role perfectly.

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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#54 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:02 pm

LakersSoul wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Why is everyone so high on Grant? I mean I like him and that, but he doesn't IMO fit with AD/Bron?


Wing defender thats volume 3 shooter. Perfect 3&D with good size and length.

Doesn’t need the ball and plays his role perfectly.


Man I've been out of the loop LOL, since when did Grant become a 3 point shooter? His Improved a lot. Edit trying to become all round person again, not just Lakers
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Post#55 » by JKiddy » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:33 pm

How do we get Cam Johnson?
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Post#56 » by LakersSoul » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:51 pm

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Slowly changing of Lakers rotation/formation to utilize guys like Knecht.



Knecht’s defense might be an issue but we will be so much better with improved formation and shooters like Max and Knecht.

Future 4Q rotation:
AR
Max
Knecht
Bron
AD

3 shooters (all young and under great contracts!) surrounding Bron and AD!

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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#57 » by Anderson Hunt » Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:35 pm

JKiddy wrote:How do we get Cam Johnson?

Russell, Schifino, and a minimum guy (Hayes, Reddish, or Wood) satisfies the salary matching requirements. The Lakers would probably have to include a first as well.
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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#58 » by Anderson Hunt » Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:39 pm

I'm going to keep beating the drum that the Lakers need Zach LaVine.
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Post#59 » by Jody Smokz » Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:22 pm

Maybe from 3 seasons ago...have you watched Lavine recently?

Anderson Hunt wrote:I'm going to keep beating the drum that the Lakers need Zach LaVine.
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Re: Lakers Roster Needs 

Post#60 » by Anderson Hunt » Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:51 pm

Jody Smokz wrote:Maybe from 3 seasons ago...have you watched Lavine recently?

Anderson Hunt wrote:I'm going to keep beating the drum that the Lakers need Zach LaVine.

All he needs is a point guard, same as Booker.

You put Chris Paul on Chicago this year, LaVine will look like Booker.

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