2018 Trade Ideas thread

[thankyouKOBE]

Dear Magic & Pelinka,

DO SOMETHING THIS SUMMER. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Thanks,
A very frustrated Lakers fan


...Souring on Lonzo. Hopefully next season this crap doesn't happen again. They coddle him and don't even let him play any games down the stretch. I'd want my damn season tickets back, if I was one of those people.

Who the hell is Andre Ingram and why should I care? MFer is 32 years old, see ya at the old folks home, dawg. We don't need another Deng, who they still need to get rid of, by any means necessary. Quit screwing around! This team needs to get serious soon because this crap is getting old. Ben Simmons has had an awakening, triple-doubling left and right with his eyes closed. Lonzo freaking sucks at this point. 5 points in 36 minutes, 3 assists, 5 rebounds, or 10 points on 2-25 shooting from 3PT distance, or the rare (like Big Foot sighting rare) triple-double game.

I wish I could be the new star of the Lakers and not even play a game for months, FOH. This summer, they better get serious. It's time for the Lakers to be near the top again. No more of this basement dweller BS. Magic, Walton and Pelinka--it's time. This is getting ridiculous.

Find Lonzo's nuts, please. #KINGKUZMA

-Sign Randle
-Sign a FA
-GET SOME IDEA OF A VISION GOING FORWARD, PLEASE
-FIND LONZO'S NUTS

[Landsberger]

A - deal deng, sign lebron and george, re-sign randle, build contender
B - sign george, re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, get a stud at #25, build playoff team
C - re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, get someone OK at #25, challenge for 8th seed
D - re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, trade deng for a premium, be late lottery team
F - lose randle, move backwards

So losing Randle means we're F'd in ANY scenario? Signing Bron and PG and letting Kuzma start at the PF spot would be a fantastic option IMHO. Doesn't mean I want Randle gone but the difference to the team would be negligible and the mix of talents might even be better.

I'd say there are even more scenarios that include trades and signings.

[No name]

With Kawhi working on his shooting skills (playing Fortnight) during the Spurs playoff game I guess it's time to ramp up the trade rumors.

I really can't believe he tweeted his gamer tag and asked for people to play him. I hope it's true. That would be such an incredible way to request a trade. Please be true for entertainment purposes.

[larry14r]

Dear Magic & Pelinka,

DO SOMETHING THIS SUMMER. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Thanks,
A very frustrated Lakers fan


...Souring on Lonzo. Hopefully next season this crap doesn't happen again. They coddle him and don't even let him play any games down the stretch. I'd want my damn season tickets back, if I was one of those people.

Who the hell is Andre Ingram and why should I care? MFer is 32 years old, see ya at the old folks home, dawg. We don't need another Deng, who they still need to get rid of, by any means necessary. Quit screwing around! This team needs to get serious soon because this crap is getting old. Ben Simmons has had an awakening, triple-doubling left and right with his eyes closed. Lonzo freaking sucks at this point. 5 points in 36 minutes, 3 assists, 5 rebounds, or 10 points on 2-25 shooting from 3PT distance, or the rare (like Big Foot sighting rare) triple-double game.

I wish I could be the new star of the Lakers and not even play a game for months, FOH. This summer, they better get serious. It's time for the Lakers to be near the top again. No more of this basement dweller BS. Magic, Walton and Pelinka--it's time. This is getting ridiculous.

Find Lonzo's nuts, please. #KINGKUZMA

-Sign Randle
-Sign a FA
-GET SOME IDEA OF A VISION GOING FORWARD, PLEASE
-FIND LONZO'S NUTS

The reason why Lonzo didn't play the rest of the way because our season was over, and also don't want to risk him getting hurt even more, and it will be your head on a patter if he gets hurt even more. Also no you don't because people will make fun of you.

[Dr Aki]

A - deal deng, sign lebron and george, re-sign randle, build contender
B - sign george, re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, get a stud at #25, build playoff team
C - re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, get someone OK at #25, challenge for 8th seed
D - re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, trade deng for a premium, be late lottery team
F - lose randle, move backwards

So losing Randle means we're F'd in ANY scenario? Signing Bron and PG and letting Kuzma start at the PF spot would be a fantastic option IMHO. Doesn't mean I want Randle gone but the difference to the team would be negligible and the mix of talents might even be better.

I'd say there are even more scenarios that include trades and signings.

I happen to think Randle is the domino that will secure George, who in turn his the domino that will get LeBron. I also don't believe the FO will let Randle go

After all, the Lakers finally have a 20/10 guy, why let that go?

[larry14r]

A - deal deng, sign lebron and george, re-sign randle, build contender
B - sign george, re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, get a stud at #25, build playoff team
C - re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, get someone OK at #25, challenge for 8th seed
D - re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, trade deng for a premium, be late lottery team
F - lose randle, move backwards

So losing Randle means we're F'd in ANY scenario? Signing Bron and PG and letting Kuzma start at the PF spot would be a fantastic option IMHO. Doesn't mean I want Randle gone but the difference to the team would be negligible and the mix of talents might even be better.

I'd say there are even more scenarios that include trades and signings.

Kuzma still won't start because Ingram gets first crack. Also as Bron ages he will need to move to the 4 because he won't be able to defend the 3s much longer.

[Landsberger]

A - deal deng, sign lebron and george, re-sign randle, build contender
B - sign george, re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, get a stud at #25, build playoff team
C - re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, get someone OK at #25, challenge for 8th seed
D - re-sign randle, maintain 2019 cap space, trade deng for a premium, be late lottery team
F - lose randle, move backwards

So losing Randle means we're F'd in ANY scenario? Signing Bron and PG and letting Kuzma start at the PF spot would be a fantastic option IMHO. Doesn't mean I want Randle gone but the difference to the team would be negligible and the mix of talents might even be better.

I'd say there are even more scenarios that include trades and signings.

I happen to think Randle is the domino that will secure George, who in turn his the domino that will get LeBron. I also don't believe the FO will let Randle go

After all, the Lakers finally have a 20/10 guy, why let that go?

Opens note pad..... writes down: Aki predicts doom for Lakers if Randle not re-signed.

I'm ambivalent on Randle at this point. If we get the guys we supposedly want Randle is a 3rd or 4th option. Most of that 20-10 will not be that relevant on a team with Bron and PG. Not sure he's a center and not sure he's a great fit with Bron, PG, Ingram and Ball. If he stays I'll be happy if he goes I won't be sad.

[Dr Aki]

well someone has to do the dirty work, bang inside and pull down big boy boards

[No name]

well someone has to do the dirty work, bang inside and pull down big boy boards

If he wants to accept that role that's awesome. With that said, offensively he is an iso guy without a shot. That's okay on a team where he's option one offensively but otherwise there are issues with distribution.

[One Love]

Sign PG, period... He should be the 1st, 2nd & 3rd priority... Our offseason starts today... Root for Utah boys... Don’t give Westbrook a shot to keep PG... LBJ is going to be 34... Someone just ripped A Ingram for being 32... Draft Novas PG at 25th & Metu (PF USC) in 2nd round... Lakeshow Baby...

[sirronstuff]

We have some great young talent with so many directions we can take. Lots of salary flexibility, amazing ability of our scouting team, young developing stars, ability to sign max level free agents, a changing culture, etc. We're in good hands. Definitely looking to the free agency period this year.

[danfantastk32]

Sign PG, period... He should be the 1st, 2nd & 3rd priority... Our offseason starts today... Root for Utah boys... Don’t give Westbrook a shot to keep PG... LBJ is going to be 34... Someone just ripped A Ingram for being 32... Draft Novas PG at 25th & Metu (PF USC) in 2nd round... Lakeshow Baby...

Lebron at age 50 is gonna be better than A-Ingram at 32.

I agree that there's certainly some long-term concerns with Lebron at his age...but apple to oranges with that one.

[Laker_Kid]

bold prediction: sign pg, resign randle, get another steal at the draft, keep deng (unwillingly), make the playoffs next season.

deng must be traded asap, attach our picks if you must. but, if it came down to having to include one of our young core, i think maginka backs out and sits on it one more year. deng’s expiring contract then becomes infinitely more valuable.

i won’t be surprised if we throw 1-year rental deals at IT and KCP, and other FAs. Brolo would probably stay put for cheap plus hometown discount.

[Spens1]

My prediction:

Deal Deng with the 25 + Zubac to Atlanta, Brooklyn or some other rebuilding team but probably end up also giving away a future first in the process
Sign George
Sign DMC (after missing out on Lebron which irritates everyone on the board)
Lose Randle cause Dallas offers him the max (but we get something back like a pick swap or something).
At 47 we get a steal (like a shamet type player)
get some really surprising talent on the MLE.

[Spens1]

Anyway, i'd offer Atlanta Deng + 25 + 47 + Zubac + Bryant for about $3.50

Seriously if they take that we have done really well i'd say. I mean Atlanta doesn't really need the cap for another two years i'd imagine and maybe Deng can do something for them, i mean Zubac is a solid center also if they don't get Ayton and end up with Doncic (we know he has quality about him). Plus 19+25 could get them into the low lottery i'd imagine and they can get a guy like Knox.

If we get rid of Deng without stretching him, it frees up space to bring in two max guys and Randle back.

[Vae Victus]

No one is eating Dengs entire 36.8m of garbage for just a measly #25 pick and Zubac/Bryant. #47 is prolly worth 3m (around the same price we paid for Clarkson's rights), Zubac and Bryant arent worth much, otherwise theyd have seen more burn in the regular season. Zubac has regressed greatly and Bryant is a massive unknown. Not to mention we need to keep one of em for cheap C depth.

At absolute best i'd rate a late 1st as being worth 10mil. Trading #25 and LAL 2019 1st, is ~20mil, you still gotta figure out how to close the rest of the value gap. Cash can cover 5mil, so ~12 more mil to go. Maybe LAL 2019 1st might be worth more, but other teams will say its a late 1st cuz we're going all in and getting max FAs and thus that pick will be very low. Kinda hard for us to argue against that, basically saying, "NUH UH! We might suck so it could be lotto pick!". We shouldnt be pulling the trigger on such a deal unless we got LBJ/PG13 in the bag, thus near guaranteeing 2019 LAL 1st to be a late pick.

I'm guessing the bare minimum to dump Deng totally it'd be, #25 + LAL 2019 1st + #47 + 5m Cash + Hart + Zubac. More like the other team will be demanding a 3rd 1st instead.

Best realistic case scenario if we're hellbent on dumping Deng is adding #25 + LAL 2019 1st + cash for an expiring contract worth roughly 12-17mil. So basically Asik, Carrol, Lin, etc type of expiring.

Problem is, even if we trade for one of those deals, we need to stretch to have a prayer at having space to get 2 max FAs and cover Randle's cap hold. Problem is, we just dont have the space even after a stretch. After playing with the math using the capulator, best realistic case is trading for Asik and stretching him, renounce everyone but Randle, and we still come up short of Lebron 35.3m max.

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=4774665475ad436aa96d21790743590

If we want Lebron, we're gonna lose Randle, unless he takes a small paycut. If some team goes hard for Randle early in FA and tosses him a fat offer sheet, then we definitely dont have the cap to get 2 max FAs unless Lebron is willing to take a massive paycut or is willing to commit to us early and thus let us still have Randle caphold to match in time.

TBH, i'm actually on board with trading Deng + assets for an expiring, sign PG13, resign Randle on a reasonable deal (past 18 mil buh bye). Trading for one the usual suspects in Asik, Carrol, and Lin all play positions of need for us, so we can play their contracts out and not stretch em, as we'll be then shift our focus to 2019 FA and go for Kawhi. We then stockpile assets to make a bid on Kawhi if SAS decides that the bridges have been burnt and they wanna get what they can for him before he opts out and bolts.

I like Deng + #25 + LAL 2019 1st + Cash for Lin

PG13 for the max

Resign Randle to a 3 year 58 mil deal with 3rd year player option. He gets a nice raise and gets a chance to hit FA again in 2 years. I have a hard time seeing other teams going beyond 18mil to start.

Sign 1 of BroLo or Noel to a 2 year 12-14 mil per deal to be starting C, 2nd year team option.

Then we have like 16 mil leftover to play with, prolly go after a SG/SF type for a 1 year deal. I'd rather go with Lin over IT cuz Lin can at least play D, can switch on SGs, and wont be a lockerhouse troublemaker.

Heck maybe even take in a 1 year year expiring contract + assets, if we cant find a way to use the money in FA. Basically we're rolling over the cap in the hunt for Kawhi... as well as stockpiling assets for competitive trade offer. Like say Bayless + #26 for cap space, thus letting them get room to go after Lebron. That #26 we can keep or use in a Deng dump, depending on the timing.

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=8646962155ad43fa9d8c87862901441

C - BroLo/Noel, Randle, Zubac, Bryant
PF- Randle, Kuzma, Wear
SF- Ingram, Room Exception
SG- PG13, Hart, Bayless
PG- Lonzo, Lin, Ennis

I see this team as a 5-6th seed, assuming the young guys dont improve one bit. If they DO improve i see us being a 3rd seed. Talk about attractive for a FA. I really like the length 1-5, even the reserves have good size.

Start of 2019 FA, BroLo/Noel, Lin, Ennis, Bayless, FA fall off the cap, and we have another shot at adding a max superstar.

Lets say hypothetical the SAS-Kawhi drama drags on... i think Randle + Ingram gets it done, with Kawhi signing a supermax. Thats ALOT of talent and short of BOS going over the top and offering up Brown + Tatum, cuz during mid season no one knows who's gonna win the lotto so no one has a high pick to offer up. BOS is especially desperate as they dont have the cap room to sign Kawhi so its either overpay in a trade or nothing. We have... options.

Then we have a team of...

C- ??? with like ~26m free cap
PF- Kuzma
SF- Kawhi
SG- PG13
PG- Lonzo

Or we wait til Kawhis a FA and take our chances to try to sign him outright. Which we have the capspace for and a young, up and coming, attractive market to woo Kawhi's people and knock their pants off. I actually have a good feeling Magic can win over Kawhi's uncle who i hear is basically calling all the shots for Team Kawhi. We'll be thin at C and the bench, but holy **** **** we'll have Kawhi, PG13, Ingram, Kuzma, Lonzo, and Randle on the team!!!!!

[Unbiased hater]

With Kawhi working on his shooting skills (playing Fortnight) during the Spurs playoff game I guess it's time to ramp up the trade rumors.

I really can't believe he tweeted his gamer tag and asked for people to play him. I hope it's true. That would be such an incredible way to request a trade. Please be true for entertainment purposes.

Magic need to learn to play Fortnite

[Spanish_Laker]

Hopefully Magic doesn't offer Ingram for Leonard.

[Penberthy]

2018-2019
Resign Randle
Resign Brook to a big 1 yr deal
Resign IT to a big 1 year deal
Shock the world, get to WCF

2019-2020
Sign Klay
Sign Kawhi
Resign Brook on the cheap

Ball (32) Hart (16)
Klay (32) Hart (16)
Kawhi (32) Ingram (16)
Kuzma (32) Ingram (16)
Lopez (16) Randle (32)

[larry14r]

Hopefully Magic doesn't offer Ingram for Leonard.

And yet that is who the Spurs will ask for.