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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#401 » by DanishLakerFan » Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:35 pm

wco81 wrote:
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wco81 wrote:So LBJ is a UFA and Draymond Green can opt out of his 2023-2024 season next July.

Draymond wants a max contract and is a Klutch client.

LBJ makes the Lakers give him a max deal and then he'll sign an extension with them?

LBJ gets a piece of that max contract too.


So how does a deal between the Lakers and Warriors look?
Dray and Klay for AD?


Lakers could potentially sign him as a free agent next July without giving the Warriors anything.


If Lebron re-sign i'm not sure there's enough cap space to sign him to a max unless they have his bird rights. Also, it hurts their spacing and forces AD to play the 5.

What would you want in a deal for Draymond?
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#402 » by wco81 » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:23 pm

I doubt the Warriors would trade him.

Not while they think they're in contention for more titles.

What they may balk at doing is giving him a 4-year max deal when they have to pay Wiggins and Poole next summer.

In the playoffs, he was suspended or fouled out of some games. Warriors still won and in some stretches, did better with him off the court.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#403 » by TylersLakers » Mon Aug 1, 2022 3:31 am

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wco81 wrote:So LBJ is a UFA and Draymond Green can opt out of his 2023-2024 season next July.

Draymond wants a max contract and is a Klutch client.

LBJ makes the Lakers give him a max deal and then he'll sign an extension with them?

LBJ gets a piece of that max contract too.


So how does a deal between the Lakers and Warriors look?
Dray and Klay for AD?


Huh? Two overpaid, late in their careers guys for AD?

I'd rather take the young guys. Wiggins, Kuminga, Poole.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#404 » by AmusingFiddle » Mon Aug 1, 2022 5:02 pm

Nothing but crickets on the trade front. Looks like we are at a Mexican standoff with our options. More than likely we will go into season with RW.

Trade may not happen until deadline in Feb.

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Post#405 » by TheHartBreakKid » Mon Aug 1, 2022 6:39 pm

Let's assume that:

- Kyrie is off the table (let's say him and KD both choose to stay in BK for this scenario, so even a Russell/2 unprotected firsts for Kyrie isn't a viable trade
- The FO is heart set on trading both 1st rounders (protected), and any second rounders needed to create the team with the best chance at winning the championship, while still factoring in future capspace/contracts and costs. AKA we still care about our contracts past this year, but top priority is putting together the best team to compete next year.

How would you rank these 9 return packages:

1. Conley/Hield/Hayward
3. Conley/Turner/Hayward
3. Conley/Randle/Fournier
4. Hield/Randle/Fournier
5. Turner/Randle/Fournier
5. Hield/Turner/Fournier
6.Conley/Hield/Fournier
7.Conley/Turner/Fournier
8.Rozier/Hield/ Hayward
9.Rozier/Turner/ Hayward



- All 3 team trades are relatively easily for LAL/Uta/CHA and LAL/UTA/IND, and LAL/IND/CHA
- All 3 team trade Knicks requiring it to be a bigger deal with Mitchell involved. (3 way trades between LAL/UTA/NY or 4 way trades with LAL/UTAH/NYK/IND)
- I'll gladly present a trade scenario that works financially and makes sense for all parties if needed for each one of those those returns. Again though, we are under the huge assumption that whether correctly or incorrectly, the FO is set on trading both future 1sts and Kyrie is off the table. I know someone will say "just trade both 1sts for Kyrie" or " I rather hang on to 1/both picks if those are the only potential returns"
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#406 » by TylersLakers » Mon Aug 1, 2022 9:29 pm

AmusingFiddle wrote:Nothing but crickets on the trade front. Looks like we are at a Mexican standoff with our options. More than likely we will go into season with RW.

Trade may not happen until deadline in Feb.

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I don't think this is accurate. Russell Westbrook will not be with the Lakers in training camp. If it means giving the two picks for Hield/Turner - they'll do it. There's just no reason to make that deal now when a) Kyrie is the main target according to reports and b) training camp isn't for another 7 weeks.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#407 » by TylersLakers » Mon Aug 1, 2022 9:35 pm

TheHartBreakKid wrote:Let's assume that:

- Kyrie is off the table (let's say him and KD both choose to stay in BK for this scenario, so even a Russell/2 unprotected firsts for Kyrie isn't a viable trade
- The FO is heart set on trading both 1st rounders (protected), and any second rounders needed to create the team with the best chance at winning the championship, while still factoring in future capspace/contracts and costs. AKA we still care about our contracts past this year, but top priority is putting together the best team to compete next year.

- All 3 team trades are relatively easily for LAL/Uta/CHA and LAL/UTA/IND, and LAL/IND/CHA
- All 3 team trade Knicks requiring it to be a bigger deal with Mitchell involved. (3 way trades between LAL/UTA/NY or 4 way trades with LAL/UTAH/NYK/IND)
- I'll gladly present a trade scenario that works financially and makes sense for all parties if needed for each one of those those returns. Again though, we are under the huge assumption that whether correctly or incorrectly, the FO is set on trading both future 1sts and Kyrie is off the table. I know someone will say "just trade both 1sts for Kyrie" or " I rather hang on to 1/both picks if those are the only potential returns"


1) Hield, Turner, Fournier
2) Conley, Turner, Hayward
3) Conley, Turner, Fournier
4) Rozier, Turner, Hayward
5) Conley, Hield, Hayward
6) Rozier, Hield, Fournier
7) Turner, Randle, Fournier
8) Conley, Randle, Fournier
9) Hield, Randle, Fournier
10) Conley, Hield, Fournier

I want almost any trade that includes Turner. Having him next to AD is a game-changer for me, especially with his ability to spread the floor.

After that I prioritize playmaking/shooting.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#408 » by MAMBAEMD » Mon Aug 1, 2022 11:07 pm

Los Angeles Lakers star Russell Westbrook says he's signed with new agent
3:25 PM PT
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Los Angeles Lakers star Russell Westbrook has signed with agent Jeff Schwartz of Excel Sports for his representation, Westbrook told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski on Monday afternoon.

Last month, Westbrook's former longtime agent, Thad Foucher of Wasserman, said he and Westbrook parted ways. Foucher cited "irreconcilable differences" in a statement and suggested that there was no longer full alignment with Westbrook about whether the former MVP should want to remain with the Lakers for the final season of his $47 million contract.

Westbrook is entering the final season of a five-year maximum deal. The 33-year-old averaged 18.5 points, 7.4 rebounds and 7.1 assists in 78 games last season.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#409 » by TheHartBreakKid » Tue Aug 2, 2022 2:47 am

TylersLakers wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote:Let's assume that:

- Kyrie is off the table (let's say him and KD both choose to stay in BK for this scenario, so even a Russell/2 unprotected firsts for Kyrie isn't a viable trade
- The FO is heart set on trading both 1st rounders (protected), and any second rounders needed to create the team with the best chance at winning the championship, while still factoring in future capspace/contracts and costs. AKA we still care about our contracts past this year, but top priority is putting together the best team to compete next year.

- All 3 team trades are relatively easily for LAL/Uta/CHA and LAL/UTA/IND, and LAL/IND/CHA
- All 3 team trade Knicks requiring it to be a bigger deal with Mitchell involved. (3 way trades between LAL/UTA/NY or 4 way trades with LAL/UTAH/NYK/IND)
- I'll gladly present a trade scenario that works financially and makes sense for all parties if needed for each one of those those returns. Again though, we are under the huge assumption that whether correctly or incorrectly, the FO is set on trading both future 1sts and Kyrie is off the table. I know someone will say "just trade both 1sts for Kyrie" or " I rather hang on to 1/both picks if those are the only potential returns"


1) Hield, Turner, Fournier
2) Conley, Turner, Hayward
3) Conley, Turner, Fournier
4) Rozier, Turner, Hayward
5) Conley, Hield, Hayward
6) Rozier, Hield, Fournier
7) Turner, Randle, Fournier
8) Conley, Randle, Fournier
9) Hield, Randle, Fournier
10) Conley, Hield, Fournier

I want almost any trade that includes Turner. Having him next to AD is a game-changer for me, especially with his ability to spread the floor.

After that I prioritize playmaking/shooting.



Interesting....So if we have traded RW, Nunn, and THT in this scenario, you're good with Lebron basically running the point with Hield/Walker IV being the secondary ball handlers? (going by choice 1)

I see your logic, but I think the first option is lacking playmaking to the point that it's going to be a problem. The second and third choices would be awesome though in terms of balance.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#410 » by zimpy27 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 7:40 am

These Randle rumors may have something behind them. I think it happens with Michell to Knicks trade.

And could be something like this:

Lakers get Randle, Beverley, Clarkson
Knicks get Mitchell, Bojan
Jazz get Westbrook, Fournier, Grimes, DAL23FRP, DET23FRP, NYK23swap, NYK24FRP, MIL25FRP, NYK25swap, NYK26FRP


Beverley, Reaves, LeBron, Randle, Davis -- Lonnie, Clarkson, THT, JTA, Bryant -- Nunn
Beverley is key to Randle fit, Clarkson doesn't really matter and may not be involved.


The Randles fit comes back to Ham trying to replicate Bucks offense and bring back size like the 2020 Lakers had, not a perfect fit talent for talent but positional similarities for sure:

Defensive guard: Jrue - Beverley
Playmaker SF: Middleton - LeBron
Playmaker PF: Giannis - Randle
Stretch defensive C: BroLo - Davis
Glue guy wing defenders: Connaughton+Tucker - Reaves+JTA+THT
Backup stretch big: Portis - Bryant
Backup guards: Teague+DDV+Forbes - Nunn+Lonnie+Clarkson
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Post#411 » by Slava » Tue Aug 2, 2022 8:19 am

The Randle rumor makes little sense unless its accompanied by picks from the Knicks that the Lakers can flip as part of a larger deal.

Something like

Lakers get: Randle + Hield + McConnell
Knicks get: Westbrook
Indiana gets: Nunn + THT + Fournier + 23 DAL FRP + 25 MIL FRP

Knicks can further send Westbrook's salary ballast and their own far off picks to Utah for Mitchell and some of their spare parts like Beasley, Clarkson or Beverley.

Our rotation becomes:

Bryant/Jones/Huff
Davis/Randle/Gabriel
LeBron/Johnson/JTA
Hield/Walker/Reaves
McConnell/Collison/Reaves
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Post#412 » by DanishLakerFan » Tue Aug 2, 2022 11:01 am

TheHartBreakKid wrote:Let's assume that:

- Kyrie is off the table (let's say him and KD both choose to stay in BK for this scenario, so even a Russell/2 unprotected firsts for Kyrie isn't a viable trade
- The FO is heart set on trading both 1st rounders (protected), and any second rounders needed to create the team with the best chance at winning the championship, while still factoring in future capspace/contracts and costs. AKA we still care about our contracts past this year, but top priority is putting together the best team to compete next year.

How would you rank these 9 return packages:

1. Conley/Hield/Hayward
3. Conley/Turner/Hayward
3. Conley/Randle/Fournier
4. Hield/Randle/Fournier
5. Turner/Randle/Fournier
5. Hield/Turner/Fournier
6.Conley/Hield/Fournier
7.Conley/Turner/Fournier
8.Rozier/Hield/ Hayward
9.Rozier/Turner/ Hayward



- All 3 team trades are relatively easily for LAL/Uta/CHA and LAL/UTA/IND, and LAL/IND/CHA
- All 3 team trade Knicks requiring it to be a bigger deal with Mitchell involved. (3 way trades between LAL/UTA/NY or 4 way trades with LAL/UTAH/NYK/IND)
- I'll gladly present a trade scenario that works financially and makes sense for all parties if needed for each one of those those returns. Again though, we are under the huge assumption that whether correctly or incorrectly, the FO is set on trading both future 1sts and Kyrie is off the table. I know someone will say "just trade both 1sts for Kyrie" or " I rather hang on to 1/both picks if those are the only potential returns"



Generally i'd rank those players (including contracts) like this:
Turner >> Conley > Hield > Hayward > Fournier >>> Randle
Turner might be the only one who has positive value and Conley/Hield being somewhat neutral (at best).

So whatever combination we could get would be fantastic.

I really think Turner would be a key piece because he'd shore up the 5-spot as a defensive anchor and floor spacer and would make it possible - theoretically - to consider putting AD on the trading block. For KD perhaps.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#413 » by TheHartBreakKid » Tue Aug 2, 2022 12:12 pm

Slava wrote:The Randle rumor makes little sense unless its accompanied by picks from the Knicks that the Lakers can flip as part of a larger deal.

Something like

Lakers get: Randle + Hield + McConnell
Knicks get: Westbrook
Indiana gets: Nunn + THT + Fournier + 23 DAL FRP + 25 MIL FRP

Knicks can further send Westbrook's salary ballast and their own far off picks to Utah for Mitchell and some of their spare parts like Beasley, Clarkson or Beverley.

Our rotation becomes:

Bryant/Jones/Huff
Davis/Randle/Gabriel
LeBron/Johnson/JTA
Hield/Walker/Reaves
McConnell/Collison/Reaves



I believe the Randle rumor is based on a hypothetical Mitchel trade, between the Jazz/Knicks/Lakers. I'm really not a fan of the idea though...I hope the Lakers stay out of it.
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Post#414 » by stan francisco » Tue Aug 2, 2022 4:17 pm

I say Indiana are nuts not to take Westbrook’s $47M(!!!) expiring.

Come February, they’ll regret it big time.

No offense, but Hield and Turner are at best third and fourth options on any ring winning squad. They need to rebuild. $47M should be a great start!
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#415 » by TylersLakers » Tue Aug 2, 2022 10:39 pm

TheHartBreakKid wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote:Let's assume that:

- Kyrie is off the table (let's say him and KD both choose to stay in BK for this scenario, so even a Russell/2 unprotected firsts for Kyrie isn't a viable trade
- The FO is heart set on trading both 1st rounders (protected), and any second rounders needed to create the team with the best chance at winning the championship, while still factoring in future capspace/contracts and costs. AKA we still care about our contracts past this year, but top priority is putting together the best team to compete next year.

- All 3 team trades are relatively easily for LAL/Uta/CHA and LAL/UTA/IND, and LAL/IND/CHA
- All 3 team trade Knicks requiring it to be a bigger deal with Mitchell involved. (3 way trades between LAL/UTA/NY or 4 way trades with LAL/UTAH/NYK/IND)
- I'll gladly present a trade scenario that works financially and makes sense for all parties if needed for each one of those those returns. Again though, we are under the huge assumption that whether correctly or incorrectly, the FO is set on trading both future 1sts and Kyrie is off the table. I know someone will say "just trade both 1sts for Kyrie" or " I rather hang on to 1/both picks if those are the only potential returns"


1) Hield, Turner, Fournier
2) Conley, Turner, Hayward
3) Conley, Turner, Fournier
4) Rozier, Turner, Hayward
5) Conley, Hield, Hayward
6) Rozier, Hield, Fournier
7) Turner, Randle, Fournier
8) Conley, Randle, Fournier
9) Hield, Randle, Fournier
10) Conley, Hield, Fournier

I want almost any trade that includes Turner. Having him next to AD is a game-changer for me, especially with his ability to spread the floor.

After that I prioritize playmaking/shooting.



Interesting....So if we have traded RW, Nunn, and THT in this scenario, you're good with Lebron basically running the point with Hield/Walker IV being the secondary ball handlers? (going by choice 1)

I see your logic, but I think the first option is lacking playmaking to the point that it's going to be a problem. The second and third choices would be awesome though in terms of balance.


It's a toss up between 1-2. If we can manage to retain Nunn and/or THT, I like option 1 a lot more because of the spacing. Hield just has so much gravity. Also, Fournier can handle and make plays on a secondary level pretty good.

Also, if we made a trade like that - I could easily see us waiving Gabriel and signing Bledsoe or Schroder. All of a sudden you're looking at a line-up of:

Reaves/Fournier/Nunn (or Schroder/Bledsoe)
Hield/Walker/Christie
LeBron/Brown Jr/Stanley
AD/JTA/
Turner/Bryant/Jones

I just absolutely love that line-up.

However - the second line-up.. boy, that would be amazing as well. I might even bring Conley off the bench in that scenario and have him play with AD when LeBron goes to the bench.

Reaves/Conley/Nunn (or Schroder/Bledsoe)
Hayward/Walker/Christie
LeBron/Brown Jr/Stanley
AD/JTA/
Turner/Bryant/Jones

Hayward's ability to be a connecting type of offensive player between AD/LeBron would be wonderful to watch. Imagine how good Alex Caruso fit in offensively, but just imagine it as a better shooter with more playmaking ability. That's Gordon Hayward offensively. The huge risk is the missed games and that's what makes this trade package 2nd to the initial one for me.

Either way - I enjoy all those trade packages much, much more than having Westbrook on this team. I cannot watch the team if he's still on it in October.
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Post#416 » by stan francisco » Wed Aug 3, 2022 12:14 am

TylersLakers wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:
1) Hield, Turner, Fournier
2) Conley, Turner, Hayward
3) Conley, Turner, Fournier
4) Rozier, Turner, Hayward
5) Conley, Hield, Hayward
6) Rozier, Hield, Fournier
7) Turner, Randle, Fournier
8) Conley, Randle, Fournier
9) Hield, Randle, Fournier
10) Conley, Hield, Fournier

I want almost any trade that includes Turner. Having him next to AD is a game-changer for me, especially with his ability to spread the floor.

After that I prioritize playmaking/shooting.



Interesting....So if we have traded RW, Nunn, and THT in this scenario, you're good with Lebron basically running the point with Hield/Walker IV being the secondary ball handlers? (going by choice 1)

I see your logic, but I think the first option is lacking playmaking to the point that it's going to be a problem. The second and third choices would be awesome though in terms of balance.


It's a toss up between 1-2. If we can manage to retain Nunn and/or THT, I like option 1 a lot more because of the spacing. Hield just has so much gravity. Also, Fournier can handle and make plays on a secondary level pretty good.

Also, if we made a trade like that - I could easily see us waiving Gabriel and signing Bledsoe or Schroder. All of a sudden you're looking at a line-up of:

Reaves/Fournier/Nunn (or Schroder/Bledsoe)
Hield/Walker/Christie
LeBron/Brown Jr/Stanley
AD/JTA/
Turner/Bryant/Jones

I just absolutely love that line-up.

However - the second line-up.. boy, that would be amazing as well. I might even bring Conley off the bench in that scenario and have him play with AD when LeBron goes to the bench.

Reaves/Conley/Nunn (or Schroder/Bledsoe)
Hayward/Walker/Christie
LeBron/Brown Jr/Stanley
AD/JTA/
Turner/Bryant/Jones

Hayward's ability to be a connecting type of offensive player between AD/LeBron would be wonderful to watch. Imagine how good Alex Caruso fit in offensively, but just imagine it as a better shooter with more playmaking ability. That's Gordon Hayward offensively. The huge risk is the missed games and that's what makes this trade package 2nd to the initial one for me.

Either way - I enjoy all those trade packages much, much more than having Westbrook on this team. I cannot watch the team if he's still on it in October.


Me neither. And we are in luck, I think. Would Westbrook change agent because he’s desperate to remain with the Lakers? I’m pretty sure he must want out. After he’s dumped by his next team who will only want his expiring, he’d like to ride the pine for a contender for two bucks, would be my guess. Like the Clippers.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#417 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 4, 2022 5:50 pm

AmusingFiddle wrote:Nothing but crickets on the trade front. Looks like we are at a Mexican standoff with our options. More than likely we will go into season with RW.

Trade may not happen until deadline in Feb.

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Knicks fan. I come in peace. I think we’re going to pull off this trade of Randle, Cam Reddish, and Derrick Rose for RW and 2 first round picks.

How do you guys feel about that? I think it’s a good trade for both teams.
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Post#418 » by Slava » Thu Aug 4, 2022 6:28 pm

Sure if the Knicks are adding the first round picks.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#419 » by wco81 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 6:50 pm

Bron eligible to sign the 2-year max extension starting today.

Not sure if he can sign it any time after today or there's a window that will close until next summer.

Nobody thinks he wants to leave the Lakers but he may not be happy if the team won't trade those FRPs to bring help now.

Lakers call his bluff, don't trade those FRPs except for a home run trade?

What trade would be worth one or both of those FRPs for this 2022-23 season?

Kyrie?

Turner and Hield?

KD might be worth it but probably would take a lot more than two FRPs.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#420 » by TylersLakers » Thu Aug 4, 2022 10:07 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
AmusingFiddle wrote:Nothing but crickets on the trade front. Looks like we are at a Mexican standoff with our options. More than likely we will go into season with RW.

Trade may not happen until deadline in Feb.

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:wave: Hey, over here!

Knicks fan. I come in peace. I think we’re going to pull off this trade of Randle, Cam Reddish, and Derrick Rose for RW and 2 first round picks.

How do you guys feel about that? I think it’s a good trade for both teams.


I wouldn't do this unless it was the last possible Westbrook option. Meaning if we get to mid-September and Westbrook is still on the team and that's the only option out there - then yes, I do the deal.

Trade Nunn/THT/2nd for Hield

Hield/Nunn/Rose/
Reddish/Walker/Christie
LeBron/Brown Jr/Stanley
Randle/JTA/Gabriel
AD/Bryant/Jones

Looks good to me.
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