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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#421 » by SlimShady83 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:08 pm

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SlimShady83 wrote:LOL True but need more big bodies


Agree. Its disheartening to see players going down in the offseason.


I can't help but wonder if they actually just got injured recently or they had it 3+ months ago?
If they latter, why just have the surgery now? :o


I thought the same thing, but on youtube they said, he apparently had surgery but re Injured himself somehow, whether true or not, I'm not sure??

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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#422 » by Godfather13 » Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:48 am

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Yeah, his 7th one. How's his shot improving? Or you think that's on us?


Regardless of his shot improving, Vando has 1 season(rookie season <5 mpg not included), when he's had a very minor positive RAPM.

It was the final Quinn Schieder-Jazz season when they were the #1 offense and the #3 defense with by far the best shooting roster in the league. Everyone of their top 12 rotation guys were positives that year, and Vando ranks 10th.

Vibes aside, this guys just not an NBA level talent. It's a shame cos he seems to be a great dude.


Let’s watch him healthy. He’s been a glassman. When healthy, we have a defensive gem. If he can finally knock down the corner three, we struck gold. Anyone who opines based on his play since April 2023 needs to remember that he’s been injured since, He’s an elite NBA defender when healthy. A difference maker. Looking forward to seeing him shut down over rated Jason PoTatum this year.

Do you read any of the stuff you respond to? DF and I both commented on his entire 7 year career, and neither mentioned 2023-24.

He's a terrible shooter, ergo a bad NBA player. It's just how it is. Wake tf up and stop capping for this guy. He's a vibes guy to bring energy and disruption for a few regular season games. Not a serious playoff talent.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#423 » by stan francisco » Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:08 pm

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Regardless of his shot improving, Vando has 1 season(rookie season <5 mpg not included), when he's had a very minor positive RAPM.

It was the final Quinn Schieder-Jazz season when they were the #1 offense and the #3 defense with by far the best shooting roster in the league. Everyone of their top 12 rotation guys were positives that year, and Vando ranks 10th.

Vibes aside, this guys just not an NBA level talent. It's a shame cos he seems to be a great dude.


Let’s watch him healthy. He’s been a glassman. When healthy, we have a defensive gem. If he can finally knock down the corner three, we struck gold. Anyone who opines based on his play since April 2023 needs to remember that he’s been injured since, He’s an elite NBA defender when healthy. A difference maker. Looking forward to seeing him shut down over rated Jason PoTatum this year.

Do you read any of the stuff you respond to? DF and I both commented on his entire 7 year career, and neither mentioned 2023-24.

He's a terrible shooter, ergo a bad NBA player. It's just how it is. Wake tf up and stop capping for this guy. He's a vibes guy to bring energy and disruption for a few regular season games. Not a serious playoff talent.


What you say is not only factually wrong but it’s also really lame trolling bait.

When you grow up, watch defense. It’s fun.

The entire league knows he’s a difference maker in any playoffs series when healthy. Elite NBA defensive one on one talent. Impact player. Cute % or not.

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Why do you post here when you’re not a Lakers fan?
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#424 » by Godfather13 » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:13 am

stan francisco wrote:
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Let’s watch him healthy. He’s been a glassman. When healthy, we have a defensive gem. If he can finally knock down the corner three, we struck gold. Anyone who opines based on his play since April 2023 needs to remember that he’s been injured since, He’s an elite NBA defender when healthy. A difference maker. Looking forward to seeing him shut down over rated Jason PoTatum this year.

Do you read any of the stuff you respond to? DF and I both commented on his entire 7 year career, and neither mentioned 2023-24.

He's a terrible shooter, ergo a bad NBA player. It's just how it is. Wake tf up and stop capping for this guy. He's a vibes guy to bring energy and disruption for a few regular season games. Not a serious playoff talent.


What you say is not only factually wrong but it’s also really lame trolling bait.

When you grow up, watch defense. It’s fun.

The entire league knows he’s a difference maker in any playoffs series when healthy. Elite NBA defensive one on one talent. Impact player. Cute % or not.

One question:
Why do you post here when you’re not a Lakers fan?

1. You asked Vando to not be judged based of the last year. DF and I both brought up his entire career, and didn't even mention the last year. Idk, how that's factually wrong or trolling, but you sure can't seem to read simple english. It's all there, unedited. Go.. try again.

2. The greatest Vando simp I know, should be able to sight 1(just one.. lol) playoff series, where he has indeed been a difference maker. LFG. Do it and ask me STFU. haha..

3. I may or may not be a Lakers fan, but you sure are an elite casual, looking at the kinda baseless nonsense you type here, and get you feelings hurt when called out.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#425 » by stan francisco » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:21 am

Godfather13 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
Godfather13 wrote:Do you read any of the stuff you respond to? DF and I both commented on his entire 7 year career, and neither mentioned 2023-24.

He's a terrible shooter, ergo a bad NBA player. It's just how it is. Wake tf up and stop capping for this guy. He's a vibes guy to bring energy and disruption for a few regular season games. Not a serious playoff talent.


What you say is not only factually wrong but it’s also really lame trolling bait.

When you grow up, watch defense. It’s fun.

The entire league knows he’s a difference maker in any playoffs series when healthy. Elite NBA defensive one on one talent. Impact player. Cute % or not.

One question:
Why do you post here when you’re not a Lakers fan?

1. You asked Vando to not be judged based of the last year. DF and I both brought up his entire career, and didn't even mention the last year. Idk, how that's factually wrong or trolling, but you sure can't seem to read simple english. It's all there, unedited. Go.. try again.

2. The greatest Vando simp I know, should be able to sight 1(just one.. lol) playoff series, where he has indeed been a difference maker. LFG. Do it and ask me STFU. haha..

3. I may or may not be a Lakers fan, but you sure are an elite casual, looking at the kinda baseless nonsense you type here, and get you feelings hurt when called out.


1. Stats, schmats. Unedited or not. Watch defense. Not blind, just a bit particular with not reading too much biased nonsense.

2. Sure. Watch what he did, as pointed out by me repeatedly and ignored by you repeatedly, against Memphis and GSW in 2022-2023 series; up until the nasty injury. And I mean watch. Stats don’t well represent certain players‘ true on-court impact. Why do you keep asking the same question? Watch his level of defensive game in those series. I guess you’d rather keep barking at that tree?

3. Feelings hurt? Lol. Only when my sensor for feefee-hurt-Celtics-teen-troll-with-ill-intent-nearby goes off. If I were still a mod I’d warn you for breaking the spirit of the Lakers board rules in about every other post of yours.

Since you claim comprehending written English sufficiently, why don’t you read the Lakers forum rules before posting again? I co-wrote the original version and I believe it hasn’t changed since. In case you wonder why you irk me, that is.

I personally wouldn't mind your contribution here if you stopped acting like a teenage Celtics brat who is here for no other reason than to stir up ish with the Lakers fans.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#426 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:25 am

Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#427 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:18 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?



My intentions are prob quite different than yours...but sure. Let's get the new/young guys as much run as possible.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#428 » by stan francisco » Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:31 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?


I’d start him. Breakout year.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#429 » by Anderson Hunt » Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:50 pm

stan francisco wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?


I’d start him. Breakout year.

PG - Russell - Reaves - Schifino
SG - Christie - Vincent - James
C --- Davis - Hayes - Koloko (2W)
PF - James - Reddish - Traore (2W)
SF - Hachimura - Knecht - Lewis

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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#430 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:21 pm

stan francisco wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?


I’d start him. Breakout year.


I just think his ready for that and It's his time

You have to break up either Dlo/Reaves and I think AR should start because he plays both ends of the floor and we know JJ loves AR :)

DLO great regular season, but come playoffs, well we know the result and not to mention, nolo on defense.
DLO can still play starter minutes, just not In the starter role and having his fire power coming off the bench would be awesome :)
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#431 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:32 pm

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stan francisco wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?


I’d start him. Breakout year.

PG - Russell - Reaves - Schifino
SG - Christie - Vincent - James
C --- Davis - Hayes - Koloko (2W)
PF - James - Reddish - Traore (2W)
SF - Hachimura - Knecht - Lewis

IR - Vanderbilt and Wood
2W - Castleton


My starting line up = AR, Max, Knecht, Bron,AD

* I'm starting Max because It's his time to shine IMO :)

* I'm starting Knecht because we need to save Vando for the PO's and everyone thinks Knecht (I haven't seen him other then on youtube highlights, so I'll wait until pre-season, might change mind) Is NBA ready test him out until maybe after allstar break If his working out keep him In there, If not then change It up with Rui etc, hopefully we'll get In the PO's and I think We/Lakers do.

* I'm starting AR because he plays both ends of the floor and JJ loves AR.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#432 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:42 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?



My intentions are prob quite different than yours...but sure. Let's get the new/young guys as much run as possible.


That's ok, we all have our own ways and really there can be no right or wrong answer In the end we all just have sit back and wait to see what JJ does end of the day :), It's always good to have discussions about what we all do If we were In his shoes :)
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#433 » by stan francisco » Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:22 pm

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stan francisco wrote:
I’d start him. Breakout year.

PG - Russell - Reaves - Schifino
SG - Christie - Vincent - James
C --- Davis - Hayes - Koloko (2W)
PF - James - Reddish - Traore (2W)
SF - Hachimura - Knecht - Lewis

IR - Vanderbilt and Wood
2W - Castleton


My starting line up = AR, Max, Knecht, Bron,AD

* I'm starting Max because It's his time to shine IMO :)

* I'm starting Knecht because we need to save Vando for the PO's and everyone thinks Knecht (I haven't seen him other then on youtube highlights, so I'll wait until pre-season, might change mind) Is NBA ready test him out until maybe after allstar break If his working out keep him In there, If not then change It up with Rui etc, hopefully we'll get In the PO's and I think We/Lakers do.

* I'm starting AR because he plays both ends of the floor and JJ loves AR.


To me D Lo’s lack of defense disqualifies him from starting. He’s not even our third best defensive PG. Therefore, I’d bring him in only when we need instant offense, and not with the first unit.

We need our starters to be defensively cohesive by the post season. That won’t happen if D Lo starts. It’s a culture thing, ruins it for the whole team, playing four on five on D.

PG - Reaves - Schifino - D Lo
SG - Christie - Vincent - B James
C --- Davis - Hayes - Wood - Koloko (2W)
PF - L James - Vando - Reddish - (Traore (2W))
SF - Hachimura - Knecht - Reddish - (Lewis)

IR - Lewis and Traoré
2W - Castleton
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#434 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:37 pm

stan francisco wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
Anderson Hunt wrote:PG - Russell - Reaves - Schifino
SG - Christie - Vincent - James
C --- Davis - Hayes - Koloko (2W)
PF - James - Reddish - Traore (2W)
SF - Hachimura - Knecht - Lewis

IR - Vanderbilt and Wood
2W - Castleton


My starting line up = AR, Max, Knecht, Bron,AD

* I'm starting Max because It's his time to shine IMO :)

* I'm starting Knecht because we need to save Vando for the PO's and everyone thinks Knecht (I haven't seen him other then on youtube highlights, so I'll wait until pre-season, might change mind) Is NBA ready test him out until maybe after allstar break If his working out keep him In there, If not then change It up with Rui etc, hopefully we'll get In the PO's and I think We/Lakers do.

* I'm starting AR because he plays both ends of the floor and JJ loves AR.


PG - Reaves - Schifino - D Lo
SG - Christie - Vincent - B James
C --- Davis - Hayes - Wood - Koloko (2W)
PF - L James - Vando - Reddish - (Traore (2W))
SF - Hachimura - Knecht - Reddish - (Lewis)
IR - Lewis and Traoré
2W - Castleton


I don't mind Rui starting, I just want to see what Knecht Is made of and see whether or not he really Is NBA ready on what everyones been saying.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#435 » by stan francisco » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:01 am

SlimShady83 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
My starting line up = AR, Max, Knecht, Bron,AD

* I'm starting Max because It's his time to shine IMO :)

* I'm starting Knecht because we need to save Vando for the PO's and everyone thinks Knecht (I haven't seen him other then on youtube highlights, so I'll wait until pre-season, might change mind) Is NBA ready test him out until maybe after allstar break If his working out keep him In there, If not then change It up with Rui etc, hopefully we'll get In the PO's and I think We/Lakers do.

* I'm starting AR because he plays both ends of the floor and JJ loves AR.


PG - Reaves - Schifino - D Lo
SG - Christie - Vincent - B James
C --- Davis - Hayes - Wood - Koloko (2W)
PF - L James - Vando - Reddish - (Traore (2W))
SF - Hachimura - Knecht - Reddish - (Lewis)
IR - Lewis and Traoré
2W - Castleton


I don't mind Rui starting, I just want to see what Knecht Is made of and see whether or not he really Is NBA ready on what everyones been saying.


Offense, yes. He’s pretty polished and a natural scorer. Second half of the season, he’ll be scouted by NBA defenses. That’s when we’ll know how deep his bag of tricks is.

Defense requires physique to fend off guys like Luka, Leonard, Kuminga, Murray, J Brown… It’ll take him a year or two to gain the umpf needed in his back pocket.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#436 » by Ruma85 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:19 am

SlimShady83 wrote:Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?


I feel the best thing JJ can do for this team is to make Russell a 6th man, would be interesting to see Max get a starting role next to Austin.
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Post#437 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:44 am

On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest ...

How would you all rate Austin Reaves Defense? ... I know It's not elite, I'm curious to see what you all say on this matter:)
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Post#438 » by stan francisco » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:29 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest ...

How would you all rate Austin Reaves Defense? ... I know It's not elite, I'm curious to see what you all say on this matter:)


My view is that he makes good decisions on defense and competes hard, but is always bumped around. Hoping his lower body strength and core has been worked on all summer.

Based on that ass-umption I’ll predict in a homeriffic way that I’ll grade his defense a 7.7 of 10 after this season is over. :meditate:
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#439 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:46 pm

stan francisco wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest ...

How would you all rate Austin Reaves Defense? ... I know It's not elite, I'm curious to see what you all say on this matter:)


My view is that he makes good decisions on defense and competes hard, but is always bumped around. Hoping his lower body strength and core has been worked on all summer.

Based on that ass-umption I’ll predict in a homeriffic way that I’ll grade his defense a 7.7 of 10 after this season is over. :meditate:


The main reason I asked this, was because on "Youtube" I get laughed at again LOL... (I don't take It to heart, each to their own), many think on YT that Reaves Is a Liability!, WTF do people actually watch the defense side of things? Sure his defense Isn't elite like I said but he tries and Is actually pretty decent both ends of the floor, when you play both ends of the floor, you gonna get tired (probably why DLO/NOLO plays no Defense lol) no matter who you're. And In saying that either offense or defense will suffer and In this case for Reaves It's his Offense, but hoping under JJ he'll be a lot better, I have faith In JJ :).
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#440 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:21 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest ...

How would you all rate Austin Reaves Defense? ... I know It's not elite, I'm curious to see what you all say on this matter:)


He's a 6. He has no natural size, or crazy strength to stop anyone. He's not gifted with crazy wingspan...none of that. He puts effort in, and at least tries. All you can ask for these days. He's slightly better than average, based on trying hard. Nothing else. Rating him higher is just homerism.

If he defends SGA, or Derozen, or Edwards (all guys his size, and all guys he'd see, if we make the postseason) he won't put a dent in their numbers. Because he doesn't have anything special going on. Mean to say maybe....but it's the truth. He's a really nice find. His offensive numbers are decent, and he at least gives it real effort on defense. I'm not railing on the guy. But he is what he is. 6'5" under 200 pounds.

If either AD or Lebron go down for any significant time......you'll all see how truly UN-remarkable our entire squad is. Take Lebron out.....does this team sniff 30 wins? 25? I wouldn't take north of 25.

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