Confirmed: Frank Vogel has agreed to deal to become new head coach, Kidd will be assistant

Post #441 » by **Danny Darko** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:21 pm

wtf? really? I mean imposing Jason Kidd who wants Lue's job is clearly a dick move.

I'm hopeful this is just Woj being a sith lord again and not knowing ****

Post #442 » by **Danny Darko** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:27 pm

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Mamba Mentality · Post #443 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:29 pm

coaching demand is high supply is low, T Lue has all the leverage in these negotiations...man is gonna get paid :nonono:

Post #444 » by **Danny Darko** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:41 pm

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really if this is true we should pray for new ownership

Post #445 » by **dockingsched** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:42 pm

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dingclancy · Post #446 » by **dingclancy** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:48 pm

What are they doing.

Why do they have to be so creative.

If they want Lue just hire him and give him complete trust.

What a show.

RamonSessions7 · Post #447 » by **RamonSessions7** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:50 pm

Clown show

BoogieTime · Post #448 » by **BoogieTime** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:50 pm

It’s interesting how this thread has changed its view on Lue. Now it’s heavily unfortunate if he isn’t hired. It’s fandome to talk yourself into someone. As an outsider looking in, the Lakers would be much stronger with a Messina or an up and coming college coach

myersia · Post #449 » by **myersia** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:52 pm

This isn’t a bad thing. Maybe we have our sights on something bigger.

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dingclancy · Post #450 » by **dingclancy** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:52 pm

In the next couple of hours, we will make the offer to Jason Kidd.

Desiderium · Post #451 » by **Desiderium** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:52 pm

what a **** ****. **** jeannie, **** rob, **** all these "front office" clowns

myersia · Post #452 » by **myersia** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:54 pm

I like that we are being picky

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Post #453 » by **dockingsched** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:55 pm

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Acting like a mom and pop operation trying to cheap out. There’s no cap, if you fire him ahead of the five years it just costs you money, doesn’t prevent you from doing anything else.

Mos_Heat · Post #454 » by **Mos_Heat** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:56 pm

BoogieTime wrote:It’s interesting how this thread has changed its view on Lue. Now it’s heavily unfortunate if he isn’t hired. It’s fandome to talk yourself into someone. As an outsider looking in, the Lakers would be much stronger with a Messina or an up and coming college coach

Dude, it's gonna be Kidd, not Messina or "an up and coming college coach"

dingclancy · Post #455 » by **dingclancy** » Wed May 8, 2019 11:00 pm

BoogieTime wrote:It’s interesting how this thread has changed its view on Lue. Now it’s heavily unfortunate if he isn’t hired. It’s fandome to talk yourself into someone. As an outsider looking in, the Lakers would be much stronger with a Messina or an up and coming college coach

It is not my view on Lue has changed, it is more about the conduct of negotiations and how the Lakers handled themselves.

If they think Lue is the best candidate, and they clearly have moved to a stage where they are negotiating the contract, then they should not have asked their would-be head coach to hire an assistant he is not comfortable with.

Also Lue is already a championship coach. And championship coaches should have gravitas to them, enough that they should be given free rein. The Lakers should have known that already before moving on with the talks. :-?

Maybe the Lakers asked Lue that in order to proceed he needs to hire a more experienced staff, so Lue suggested either Thibs or Vogel. Lakers countered with Kidd, who has a reputation of lobbying himself for a job both in Brooklyn and in Milwaukee.

RamonSessions7 · Post #456 » by **RamonSessions7** » Wed May 8, 2019 11:00 pm

myersia wrote:I like that we are being picky

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Cheap*. Not like we passed over lue, we lowballed him and he walked.

Post #457 » by **Kilroy** » Wed May 8, 2019 11:02 pm

Well, LeBron is only around for another 3 years, why would we offer him 5? It kind of doesn't make any sense from our end... Also, 5yrs is a lifetime in NBA coaching years... Lots of coaches don't make it 5 seasons...

I don't know that I have a problem with us trying to keep it to 3 yrs... Even if it is just money... I think the odds are, you're going to be pissing away the final 2 yrs anyway... And who willingly does that?

Also pretty clear that Lue and his camp are leaking this stuff... Which is **** especially the way things are going for us right now... They know we're fighting public opinion right now so they're pouring it on... That alone makes me say **** him... Let him go coach some backwater team...

Post #458 » by **dockingsched** » Wed May 8, 2019 11:07 pm

myersia wrote:I like that we are being picky

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Ending talks with someone you offered a 3 year deal to is not being picky, it’s being cheap.

RamonSessions7 · Post #459 » by **RamonSessions7** » Wed May 8, 2019 11:08 pm

Kilroy wrote:Well, LeBron is only around for another 3 years, why would we offer him 5? It kind of doesn't make any sense from our end... Also, 5yrs is a lifetime in NBA coaching years... Lots of coaches don't make it 5 seasons...

I don't know that I have a problem with us trying to keep it to 3 yrs... Even if it is just money... I think the odds are, you're going to be pissing away the final 2 yrs anyway... And who willingly does that?

Also pretty clear that Lue and his camp are leaking this stuff... Which is **** especially the way things are going for us right now... They know we're fighting public opinion right now so they're pouring it on... That alone makes me say **** him... Let him go coach some backwater team...

From the same reporters as the AD talks. Seeing a common denominator that the leaks are on our side

mighty_duck · Post #460 » by **mighty_duck** » Wed May 8, 2019 11:11 pm

The Regime wrote:coaching demand is high supply is low, T Lue has all the leverage in these negotiations...man is gonna get paid

You got that bass ackwards. There are about 5 open NBA HC positions. There are a couple dozen of ex-HC, dozens of assistants and former assistants, hundreds of college coaches and European coaches. No shortage of supply.

If Lue doesn't get this job, I wouldn't be surprised if he never coaches in the NBA again.