Official trade thread/buy-out market 20-21 edition

lalalaker · Post #441 » by **lalalaker** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:51 am

I say we indeed trade for porzingis even if he is injury prone. He wont have the pressure as a secondary scorer with lbj and AD and as long as we keep caruso lebron and AD anyone should be available. but honestly we need a player that is more offensive minded and wont mine taking ball away from lebron on offense. Our team is too dependant on lebron and AD and just standing still waiting for play to develop.

iamworthy · Post #442 » by **iamworthy** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:42 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
iamworthy wrote:Porzingis is on the trading block?!

Maybe worth trading Schroeder, KCP, Harrell for Porzingis, Burke, DFS?

Caruso, Matthews, LeBron, Davis, KP
Burke, THT, DFS, Kuzma, Gasol
Vet min, Vet min, McKinnie, Dudley, Markieff

He's clearly an attractive piece but obviously his injury history is worrisome.

RamonSessions7 · Post #443 » by **RamonSessions7** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:58 pm

Not just his injury history, but his play after getting paid that huge deal is worrisome. Dallas, who should be a great fit with him, is looking to move him for a reason.

Post #444 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:44 pm

I don't think pairing Zinger with AD makes any kind of sense... AD's better at doing what Zinger does best, and he has no interest in banging at the 5 all season... So it's a bad fit for Zinger and a bad fit for AD.

If we can sign Whiteside, I say do that... Then I think we go all-in for Beal with Schroeder/Trez/Mathews/ and whoever else you need to throw in other than THT...

Atlaker41 · Post #445 » by **Atlaker41** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:07 pm

Williams?

Post #446 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:31 pm

Atlaker41 wrote:Williams?

You're right, I meant Mathews... I was scanning an article about Zion when I typed that... :roll:

LAKESHOW · Post #447 » by **LAKESHOW** » Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:04 pm

We fked up. We had all the ingredients here already. Maybe bring Schroeder thats it, as Danny Green was pissing me off. But now we are scrambling

One Love · Post #448 » by **One Love** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:45 am

I have a feeling Rob has something up his sleeve but these non contested layups & 6th worst 3% isnt working...

I know Whiteside or Cousins are obvious but I prefer Hayes (NO), Bamba (ORL), Lopez (Wash) or Allen (Cavs)...

What about Hayes (Young Center) & Hart (3D) from New Orleans for a Kuzz & Wesley or THT & Wesley package...

What about Whiteside (C) & Cory Joseph (Backup PG) for Schroder...

THT & Wesley for Allen (Cavs)... There are a number of options...

Lakeshow Baby...

Post #449 » by **Kilroy** » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:04 pm

I think Rob has been working the phones for sure... There's a 'limbo' vibe about the team right now, although, maybe last night is an indication they've given up?
But I still think our biggest need come playoff time, won't be another BIG... McGee hardly played in the post season after playing significant minutes all year... Howard actually didn't play that much either.
I think our biggest need is another dynamic scorer. I think the plan was for Schroder to do that AND distribute the ball, but it's not really working that well.

As for our interior defense... Isn't it interesting how much better it looked when Lebron locked in on that end of the floor? I've said it a million times... You can't blame it all on Marc... LeBron and even Trez, who will show up for an occasional block, or tap-out, but doesn't keep anyone out of the lane, both need to lock in and step up...

I wonder if we'll see more Schroder/Caruso/LeBron/Morris/Gasol?

zuju · Post #450 » by **zuju** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:01 am

Kilroy wrote:I think Rob has been working the phones for sure... There's a 'limbo' vibe about the team right now, although, maybe last night is an indication they've given up?
But I still think our biggest need come playoff time, won't be another BIG... McGee hardly played in the post season after playing significant minutes all year... Howard actually didn't play that much either.
I think our biggest need is another dynamic scorer. I think the plan was for Schroder to do that AND distribute the ball, but it's not really working that well.

As for our interior defense... Isn't it interesting how much better it looked when Lebron locked in on that end of the floor? I've said it a million times... You can't blame it all on Marc... LeBron and even Trez, who will show up for an occasional block, or tap-out, but doesn't keep anyone out of the lane, both need to lock in and step up...

I wonder if we'll see more Schroder/Caruso/LeBron/Morris/Gasol?

The Squad does have problems.
Very much like the "Kuz be the small ball 5 test", Harrell playing that position isn't much better in terms of defense. Morris is a better option for that position. At least he give you some toughness inside with his 3 pt shot.

We actually have more Forward than we really need. LBJ, AD, Kuz, Harrell and Morris. Apart from AD, none of them consistently protect the paint well. Asking LBJ to consistently lock in on that end simply putting to much pressure one him and asking too much from him. I still want him to preserve for the playoff.

We are also lacking of a floor general to ease LBJ as the secondary contributor aka Rondo.

Rob should be working on phones all day. Damian Jones may only be an insurance in case nothing fruitful work out?

Post #451 » by **zimpy27** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:05 am

Kilroy wrote:I think Rob has been working the phones for sure... There's a 'limbo' vibe about the team right now, although, maybe last night is an indication they've given up?
But I still think our biggest need come playoff time, won't be another BIG... McGee hardly played in the post season after playing significant minutes all year... Howard actually didn't play that much either.
I think our biggest need is another dynamic scorer. I think the plan was for Schroder to do that AND distribute the ball, but it's not really working that well.

As for our interior defense... Isn't it interesting how much better it looked when Lebron locked in on that end of the floor? I've said it a million times... You can't blame it all on Marc... LeBron and even Trez, who will show up for an occasional block, or tap-out, but doesn't keep anyone out of the lane, both need to lock in and step up...

I wonder if we'll see more Schroder/Caruso/LeBron/Morris/Gasol?

Schroeder, Caruso, KCP, LeBron, Davis as a lineup has dominated this season but barely gets played. This lineup will get a lot of burn in the playoffs. I don't think Lakers do need a C for playoffs.

Playoff minutes (50mpg):

Schroeder (32) | LeBron (18)
Caruso (28) | KCP (11) | THT (11)
KCP (18) | Kuzma (20) | Matthews (12)
LeBron (18) | Davis (18) | Markieff (14)
Davis (18) | Harrell (20) | Gasol (12)

THT, Matthews, Kuzma, Markieff minutes will likely flip around depending on who is shooting the 3 the best. Likely they share 55-60 mpg between them.
It's these 4 players that should be upgraded to two more reliable 3 shooting wings (SG/SF and SF/PF) but not sure if it's possible. Kuzma could be the SF/PF and is hard to move because of PPP. Can Markieff, Matthews, THT be flipped into a great 3 shooting SG/SF (~8m).

Alec Burks could be a sneaky nice fit.

Post #452 » by **Kilroy** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 5:14 am

So Kyle Lowry apparently has us on his short list of contenders he wants to be traded to...
In a way, he's exactly what the team needs, in another way, he's 34 and on a 1yr 30M contract... We'd have to trade Schroder and Trez probably to make it work... So it seems like a complete impossibility, no?

iamworthy · Post #453 » by **iamworthy** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 1:45 pm

Kilroy wrote:So Kyle Lowry apparently has us on his short list of contenders he wants to be traded to...
In a way, he's exactly what the team needs, in another way, he's 34 and on a 1yr 30M contract... We'd have to trade Schroder and Trez probably to make it work... So it seems like a complete impossibility, no?

I don't think Lowry is worth Trez and Dennis. Lowry is on his way out the door and Trez and Dennis are in their primes. Trez and Dennis are also on the same timeline as AD which is important. For me, Dennis and Trez has had some inconsistency but this is such a weird year it's really hard to gauge.

tamaraw08 · Post #454 » by **tamaraw08** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 3:59 pm

iamworthy wrote:
Kilroy wrote:So Kyle Lowry apparently has us on his short list of contenders he wants to be traded to...
In a way, he's exactly what the team needs, in another way, he's 34 and on a 1yr 30M contract... We'd have to trade Schroder and Trez probably to make it work... So it seems like a complete impossibility, no?

I don't think Lowry is worth Trez and Dennis. Lowry is on his way out the door and Trez and Dennis are in their primes. Trez and Dennis are also on the same timeline as AD which is important. For me, Dennis and Trez has had some inconsistency but this is such a weird year it's really hard to gauge.

A one year rental for an aging guard wouldn't be worth it to trade 2 guys who are giving this team like 33 pts, rebs, assists and defense.
I'm betting Clippers would be the aggressive suitors, hoping to just give up Lou and fillers. Miami needs another star but I don't think he's not going to fill their pressing need of being a dynamic scorer.

LAKESHOW · Post #455 » by **LAKESHOW** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 7:07 pm

We good up top. Everyone knows where we need the help

chefy · Post #456 » by **chefy** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 7:22 pm

Harrel + THT + 1st pick

Lowry + Boucher + 2nd rd pick

our defense would be crazy with the addition of these two.

iamworthy · Post #457 » by **iamworthy** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 8:51 pm

Eventually, I think the Lakers are going to have to choose who to keep between Caruso and THT.

Post #458 » by **Kilroy** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:55 am

iamworthy wrote:Eventually, I think the Lakers are going to have to choose who to keep between Caruso and THT.

I have the same feeling... If we make a move, no matter who we're trying to trade for, those 2 guys are going to be on everyone's "must have" list... THT is probably more sought after right now, but Caruso is more of a sure thing for teams.

So I think people demanding a trade for a backup big right now, probably need to get comfortable with the thought that it'll most likely cost us one of those guys.

Post #459 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 10:32 am

Kilroy wrote:
iamworthy wrote:Eventually, I think the Lakers are going to have to choose who to keep between Caruso and THT.

I have the same feeling... If we make a move, no matter who we're trying to trade for, those 2 guys are going to be on everyone's "must have" list... THT is probably more sought after right now, but Caruso is more of a sure thing for teams.

So I think people demanding a trade for a backup big right now, probably need to get comfortable with the thought that it'll most likely cost us one of those guys.

Lakers have to keep Caruso. THT is not a proven commodity yet nor is he nearly as valuable to the current team. Both guys play a similar role at SG but Caruso has an on/off at +6.5 per 100 and THT is at -8.6 per 100

If Lakers don't plan to keep THT then they have to look to trade him. I'm confident that if Schroeder, THT and Caruso are here by trade deadline then they are all staying based on handshake agreements.

My guess is 90/5 for Schroeder, 40/4 for Caruso, 40/4 for THT

$160m salary with $60m tax bill

myersia · Post #460 » by **myersia** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 4:14 pm

We can try and overvalue him forever but kuzma needs to go. I know Jeanie has a hard on for kuzma but he’s really not effective and has never been consistent. I would imagine kuzma and THT will have to be discussed to be traded soon. Caruso fits our team better than he would fit other teams (similar to how Sasha, Walton, fisher, and others have been good fits for us and bad fits everyone else).