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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#441 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:26 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest ...

How would you all rate Austin Reaves Defense? ... I know It's not elite, I'm curious to see what you all say on this matter:)


He's a 6. He has no natural size, or crazy strength to stop anyone. He's not gifted with crazy wingspan...none of that. He puts effort in, and at least tries. All you can ask for these days. He's slightly better than average, based on trying hard. Nothing else. Rating him higher is just homerism.


110% this, I was thinking 6 If not 7 out of 10 ... People don't see this In Reaves, he gets hammered on the defense side of things. Fights through screens, usually makes the right choice In going under/over screens etc gets bumped like there's no tomorrow on almost every defensive play, It's gonna take a toll on you. Last year when I seen him playing the defense you could tell that he was getting exhausted and his offense started struggling, people started complaining so much on Reaves but don't understand that he plays well both ends of the floor and takes a toll on you.

Meanwhile you get someone like DLO and I paid quite a lot of attention on him as well and he can't even put his hands up on the defensive end, sags off his defender etc. It's not like DLO Is old can use this as an excuse, I'm just not a Dlo fan never have been never will be.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#442 » by Godfather13 » Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:46 am

stan francisco wrote:
Godfather13 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
What you say is not only factually wrong but it’s also really lame trolling bait.

When you grow up, watch defense. It’s fun.

The entire league knows he’s a difference maker in any playoffs series when healthy. Elite NBA defensive one on one talent. Impact player. Cute % or not.

One question:
Why do you post here when you’re not a Lakers fan?

1. You asked Vando to not be judged based of the last year. DF and I both brought up his entire career, and didn't even mention the last year. Idk, how that's factually wrong or trolling, but you sure can't seem to read simple english. It's all there, unedited. Go.. try again.

2. The greatest Vando simp I know, should be able to sight 1(just one.. lol) playoff series, where he has indeed been a difference maker. LFG. Do it and ask me STFU. haha..

3. I may or may not be a Lakers fan, but you sure are an elite casual, looking at the kinda baseless nonsense you type here, and get you feelings hurt when called out.


1. Stats, schmats. Unedited or not. Watch defense. Not blind, just a bit particular with not reading too much biased nonsense.

There are no stats here.. lol. You're fighting imaginary villains. Read again. If you still don't get it stop posting for good and embarrassing yourself.

2. Sure. Watch what he did, as pointed out by me repeatedly and ignored by you repeatedly, against Memphis and GSW in 2022-2023 series; up until the nasty injury. And I mean watch. Stats don’t well represent certain players‘ true on-court impact. Why do you keep asking the same question? Watch his level of defensive game in those series. I guess you’d rather keep barking at that tree?

I have watched & gave you the numbers(REPEATEDLY) on how Ja, his primary assignment was a whole 10-16%(FG-3FG) more efficient against Vando, compared to all other players that guarded Ja 1v1 in that series.

I also shared the numbers on how Vando was switched onto Dray/Looney & Joker/AG for more minutes than Steph & Jamal(his primary assignments in the following series.

His minutes went down in every playoff series he played.

Watch more ball before making more and more baseless imaginary spam comments.


3. Feelings hurt? Lol. Only when my sensor for feefee-hurt-Celtics-teen-troll-with-ill-intent-nearby goes off. If I were still a mod I’d warn you for breaking the spirit of the Lakers board rules in about every other post of yours.

Since you claim comprehending written English sufficiently, why don’t you read the Lakers forum rules before posting again? I co-wrote the original version and I believe it hasn’t changed since. In case you wonder why you irk me, that is.

I personally wouldn't mind your contribution here if you stopped acting like a teenage Celtics brat who is here for no other reason than to stir up ish with the Lakers fans.


What spirit is truth breaking? Calling you out on you BS is not allowed? Factually breaking down a bad player is not allowed.

So everyone just has to watch your miserable feckless emotional rants and agree or you threaten to ban them? What a miserable clown.. :lol: :lol:

All you say is Watch, watch, watch cos you don't have any real analytical skills to coherently understand what you're watching and put it into a reasonable fact/stat based argument. Fast forward to personal insults and calling me a troll / Celtic. So original. :lol:

Go on and mass report me to your favorite mod. That's all you can do. lol.

Meanwhile, Vando's gonna keep sucking at basketball.. haha
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#443 » by Godfather13 » Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:54 am

SlimShady83 wrote:On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the highest ...

How would you all rate Austin Reaves Defense? ... I know It's not elite, I'm curious to see what you all say on this matter:)


Last season -

October to February - 1
March-May - 7/8

He's somehow harnessed Kobe/Lebron's level of privilege to not GAF during regular season. I swear to god I have seen less than a handful of role players feel that comfortable giving absolutely no effort whatsoever.

March onwards, and specially in the Denver series first 3 games, he was actually really good. I rewatched specifically his film on Jamal and he was more than fine.

I get the size/athleticism/strength limitations, but defense is still a lot about effort and IQ. We know he's got elite IQ. Just boils down to his motivation level.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#444 » by Godfather13 » Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:16 am

SlimShady83 wrote:Let's get this thing back on track shall we, It's the off season but damn.

What are you guys thoughts on starting Max Christie? It's time for him to shine?

Eh.. I can't honestly see him starting, but with that contract and the war criminal coach gone, he should hopefully see more minutes. His advanced stuff looks terrible at first glance. But we really just haven't got enough of a sample size of game time on him to judge him realistically. And tbh, I think Ham made everyone but AD-Bron look a lot worse than they really are by gross decision making. Among other things Ham can't be forgiven for, he just had Max in the dog house for some reason. Maybe cos Max might have actually been more productive than Ham's lover TP.. lol

But his position is over crowded. He's not jumping over DLO/AR/Gabe's spots to start the season as some people are hoping. We don't have any secondary ball handling/playmaking with Lebron being unwilling to take up those responsibilities in the Regular Season anymore. He should however, be the first sub for AR, getting 16-22 mpg this year with consistent rotations / lineups / sets to familiarize himself and hopefully excel this year.

Max & C Wood are the two guys I think were the worst impacted by Ham's malpractices & should see turnarounds. This is if Wood is still a Laker by October 22nd. lol
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#445 » by stan francisco » Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:20 am

Godfather13 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
Godfather13 wrote:1. You asked Vando to not be judged based of the last year. DF and I both brought up his entire career, and didn't even mention the last year. Idk, how that's factually wrong or trolling, but you sure can't seem to read simple english. It's all there, unedited. Go.. try again.

2. The greatest Vando simp I know, should be able to sight 1(just one.. lol) playoff series, where he has indeed been a difference maker. LFG. Do it and ask me STFU. haha..

3. I may or may not be a Lakers fan, but you sure are an elite casual, looking at the kinda baseless nonsense you type here, and get you feelings hurt when called out.


1. Stats, schmats. Unedited or not. Watch defense. Not blind, just a bit particular with not reading too much biased nonsense.

There are no stats here.. lol. You're fighting imaginary villains. Read again. If you still don't get it stop posting for good and embarrassing yourself.

2. Sure. Watch what he did, as pointed out by me repeatedly and ignored by you repeatedly, against Memphis and GSW in 2022-2023 series; up until the nasty injury. And I mean watch. Stats don’t well represent certain players‘ true on-court impact. Why do you keep asking the same question? Watch his level of defensive game in those series. I guess you’d rather keep barking at that tree?

I have watched & gave you the numbers(REPEATEDLY) on how Ja, his primary assignment was a whole 10-16%(FG-3FG) more efficient against Vando, compared to all other players that guarded Ja 1v1 in that series.

I also shared the numbers on how Vando was switched onto Dray/Looney & Joker/AG for more minutes than Steph & Jamal(his primary assignments in the following series.

His minutes went down in every playoff series he played.

Watch more ball before making more and more baseless imaginary spam comments.


3. Feelings hurt? Lol. Only when my sensor for feefee-hurt-Celtics-teen-troll-with-ill-intent-nearby goes off. If I were still a mod I’d warn you for breaking the spirit of the Lakers board rules in about every other post of yours.

Since you claim comprehending written English sufficiently, why don’t you read the Lakers forum rules before posting again? I co-wrote the original version and I believe it hasn’t changed since. In case you wonder why you irk me, that is.

I personally wouldn't mind your contribution here if you stopped acting like a teenage Celtics brat who is here for no other reason than to stir up ish with the Lakers fans.


What spirit is truth breaking? Calling you out on you BS is not allowed? Factually breaking down a bad player is not allowed.

So everyone just has to watch your miserable feckless emotional rants and agree or you threaten to ban them? What a miserable clown.. :lol: :lol:

All you say is Watch, watch, watch cos you don't have any real analytical skills to coherently understand what you're watching and put it into a reasonable fact/stat based argument. Fast forward to personal insults and calling me a troll / Celtic. So original. :lol:

Go on and mass report me to your favorite mod. That's all you can do. lol.

Meanwhile, Vando's gonna keep sucking at basketball.. haha


Attack the post, not the poster. The truth is always fine — when not misrepresented. Until then no bite, bud.

The truth is that you’re here with no respect for being a visitor, and you’re repeatedly ignoring the fact that I don’t even have him as a starter nor that I acknowledge all of his offensive shortcomings happily. Gee, I wonder why you pretend not to have read that. :D Plus, the fact that he’s the epitome of the kind of player whose contribution isn’t well measured in stats, especially not 3PT FG%. I’m not interested in exchanging with that type of incoherence.

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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#446 » by Godfather13 » Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:36 am

stan francisco wrote:
Attack the post, not the poster.


Checks out.. I'm the one who's repeatedly threatened to ban you and repeatedly called you a traitor/Celtic/troll, instead of staying on topic about the player in question.

And you wrote the rules, yeah? :lol:
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#447 » by stan francisco » Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:18 pm

I am not a mod so how could I possibly have threatened you with a ban? Bye, good luck.

Ignore button, thank you for your existence.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#448 » by Anderson Hunt » Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:54 pm

They need a guard defender in the starting lineup. Christie shoots the best out of all the defenders (Reddish and Vanderbilt), so he should get the nod.

Reaves should come off the bench because (1) I don't think his effectiveness would change off the bench compared to Russell and (2) I believe Russell should be catered to and put in the best position to succeed so he can be traded more easily down the line.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#449 » by danfantastk32 » Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:21 pm

Anderson Hunt wrote:They need a guard defender in the starting lineup. Christie shoots the best out of all the defenders (Reddish and Vanderbilt), so he should get the nod.

Reaves should come off the bench because (1) I don't think his effectiveness would change off the bench compared to Russell and (2) I believe Russell should be catered to and put in the best position to succeed so he can be traded more easily down the line.



I wouldn't worry about it. You're not fooling anyone at this point.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#450 » by stan francisco » Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:26 pm

Anderson Hunt wrote:They need a guard defender in the starting lineup. Christie shoots the best out of all the defenders (Reddish and Vanderbilt), so he should get the nod.


This.

As long as D Lo doesn’t start I’m fine with either one of Reaves, JHS, Vincent. Defense.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#451 » by Anderson Hunt » Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:03 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
Anderson Hunt wrote:They need a guard defender in the starting lineup. Christie shoots the best out of all the defenders (Reddish and Vanderbilt), so he should get the nod.

Reaves should come off the bench because (1) I don't think his effectiveness would change off the bench compared to Russell and (2) I believe Russell should be catered to and put in the best position to succeed so he can be traded more easily down the line.



I wouldn't worry about it. You're not fooling anyone at this point.

You're right, but as it stands you still need the most out of Russell and Reaves.

I think Reaves will contribute more off the bench than Russell would off the bench. Russell is better as a starter while Reaves can excel in either role.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#452 » by SlimShady83 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:20 am

Anderson Hunt wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
Anderson Hunt wrote: I wouldn't worry about it. You're not fooling anyone at this point.

You're right, but as it stands you still need the most out of Russell and Reaves.

I think Reaves will contribute more off the bench than Russell would off the bench. Russell is better as a starter while Reaves can excel in either role.


With how much JJ loves Reaves, I just don't see Reaves getting benched and will start. Lakers could use Dlo's shooting off the bench. Man we're getting closer and closer, feels like when you about to sign off for work for the day and still have 2 minutes left and feels like another 8 hours :lol:, just finished work.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#453 » by stan francisco » Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:37 am

I think Reaves should start at PG. LBJ is our Point Forward anyway once the ball passes the half court. He has a better defensive chance against PGs than SGs. Let’s hope he got stronger over the break…

PG Reaves
SG Christie
SF Vando
PF LBJ
C AD

I hope JJ has the balls to run with such a lineup for 10-20 games. It would pay off late. We need LBJ
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#454 » by SlimShady83 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:50 am

stan francisco wrote:PG Reaves
SG Christie
SF Vando
PF LBJ
C ADy


I just don't want to risk It with Vando, wait and see how he goes first maybe until after allstar break then enter him In the lineup? I just don't risk It with him (getting another Injury), Knecht or Rui for me.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#455 » by stan francisco » Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:10 am

SlimShady83 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:PG Reaves
SG Christie
SF Vando
PF LBJ
C ADy


I just don't want to risk It with Vando, wait and see how he goes first maybe until after allstar break then enter him In the lineup? I just don't risk It with him (getting another Injury), Knecht or Rui for me.


I’m fine w Rui starting, too. If Knecht plays defense, sure. Vando will probably be second or third string.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#456 » by Godfather13 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:09 am

As expected..

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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#457 » by SlimShady83 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 5:21 am

RIP saw It while at work/break on youtube shame

On the bright side Is Vando not starting, It's too soon for him.
Downside Is DLO Is starting :( ... Is what It is.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#458 » by stan francisco » Thu Sep 26, 2024 3:43 am

Don’t do it, JJ.

Starting D Lo in November is to make sure our defense will for sure suck in April.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#459 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:42 am

Have you guys seen Lakers Press Conference?



Talk on Vando - His not even close to being ready IMO, should only play In limited minutes, they claim his ready for start of season but don't believe It.

Talk on Reaves - Man JJ Is high on Reaves
Talk on DLo - Not much haha.
Talk on AD - not much other then what we know
Talk on woods - getting re evaluated In 6 weeks - this means Hayes/Koloko will get pleny of minutes?, how we pushing AD to the 4?
Talk on Rui - looking to get him coner 3, more rebounds etc
Talk on Max - He seems to like Max and can see him playing him a tone.

What I miss or not get? lol.
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Re: offseason tracker 

Post#460 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:24 am

Sooo ... On youtube I say this.

"Reaves plays well both ends of the floor AND If you say no he doesn't, then you have no clue, sure his not elite, but compared to DLO he is and give Reaves 0-10 on defense his a 6 If not 7 out of 10 on defense, at least he tries compared to DLO or I should say NOLO"

Theres more to It then this ... But on Youtube this Is the reply I get, from 1 fan, so far.

"AR plays well on both ends of the floor" (Here are his words) delusional statement he's terrible defensively, with a angry smily face at the end LOL ..

This what you get on youtube LOL.

If you seen this on youtube then you know who I am lol, different user name.

Edit: If you get this then you know my youtube user name and #respect.

Also speaking of youtube ...

I was recently watching a youtube short video, sorry don't do too much media and this Is why... Where a guy trying to do a video on a movie and explaining all the details of the movie, this movie was "Great Escape" One of the greatest movies ever IMO right up there, being an older guy I know It. In the clip, the kid talks about a guy (Steve McQueen) using a "Tennis Ball" Yet It's clearly a "Baseball" through out the entire movie and this made me laugh so friggin hard and says a lot about youtuber/shorts videos etc just mind boggling, If you know the movie respect, If not, recommend watching It, sorry just going on a little rant, bugs me about youtubers, good for entertainment but that's about It.
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