Official trade thread/buy-out market 20-21 edition

[Beethoven]

Kuzma can't be traded right now because of his new contract... So it wouldn't be a case of overvaluing...

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I found a way to make it work and posted it on the TnT board, for the Lakers purposes the swap is the same, Graham for Kuzma. I'd only want the Hornets to do the revised deal unless they found a way to get McGee or some other center to plug the hole left by Zeller. But assuming they could find some mediocre center help I think the Hornets should want to size up from Graham to Kuzma. I also think Graham would have a field day w/ the looks LBJ, AD, Dennis create. He can also create for others when needed.

I like Graham since his Kansas tournament days but sheesh, the guy is 6-1 who shoots 34% from 3pt area, 35.2FG% with a 50.3 TS%. do you expect him to play next to another small like Schroder? Are you suggesting Dennis sits and less minutes then? Schroder plays very good defense with a 54.3 TS% and oh btw, Kuzma is listed as 6-10 whose been working extra hard on defense and rebs with a 54.1 TS%.
Are you sure you are a Laker fan?

^ really.. "hey can we get some of your key pieces to help our team, we can give you our excess or trash"

"oh btw, im a 'laker fan' "

[NCHeels2008]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2059548

I found a way to make it work and posted it on the TnT board, for the Lakers purposes the swap is the same, Graham for Kuzma. I'd only want the Hornets to do the revised deal unless they found a way to get McGee or some other center to plug the hole left by Zeller. But assuming they could find some mediocre center help I think the Hornets should want to size up from Graham to Kuzma. I also think Graham would have a field day w/ the looks LBJ, AD, Dennis create. He can also create for others when needed.

I like Graham since his Kansas tournament days but sheesh, the guy is 6-1 who shoots 34% from 3pt area, 35.2FG% with a 50.3 TS%. do you expect him to play next to another small like Schroder? Are you suggesting Dennis sits and less minutes then? Schroder plays very good defense with a 54.3 TS% and oh btw, Kuzma is listed as 6-10 whose been working extra hard on defense and rebs with a 54.1 TS%.
Are you sure you are a Laker fan?

^ really.. "hey can we get some of your key pieces to help our team, we can give you our excess or trash"

"oh btw, im a 'laker fan' "

You're right I wasn't at Game 7 in 2010 or anything. And I do think Graham makes more sense long-term than Kuzma considering the other pieces

[Kilroy]

Kuzma is expendable but Graham is a poor man's Schroder at this point, or maybe an equal replacement at best... It wouldn't be an equitable trade for the Lakers... It adds nothing of real impact and it takes away some length, and defensive presence.

We need either a better fit at wing, a legit C, or barring that, a playmaker that could take the ball out of Schroder's hands and get him into scoring positions off ball.

[snaquille oatmeal]

Kuzma is expendable but Graham is a poor man's Schroder at this point, or maybe an equal replacement at best... It wouldn't be an equitable trade for the Lakers... It adds nothing of real impact and it takes away some length, and defensive presence.

We need either a better fit at wing, a legit C, or barring that, a playmaker that could take the ball out of Schroder's hands and get him into scoring positions off ball.

I must admit, I giggled like a little girl when I read “defensive presence” in context of describing Kuzma..... but in a good way

[Kilroy]

Kuzma is expendable but Graham is a poor man's Schroder at this point, or maybe an equal replacement at best... It wouldn't be an equitable trade for the Lakers... It adds nothing of real impact and it takes away some length, and defensive presence.

We need either a better fit at wing, a legit C, or barring that, a playmaker that could take the ball out of Schroder's hands and get him into scoring positions off ball.

I must admit, I giggled like a little girl when I read “defensive presence” in context of describing Kuzma..... but in a good way

Brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles...

It's all about the relatives...

[zimpy27]

If Schroeder doesn't sign an extension could he be packaged for Oladipo?

Would you consider moving Matthews, Markieff and THT for Royce O'Neale?

[nzahir]

If Schroeder doesn't sign an extension could he be packaged for Oladipo?

Would you consider moving Matthews, Markieff and THT for Royce O'Neale?

Schroeder>Dipo rn, especially with injury risk

Utah laughs at us and blocks our number for that

[zuju]

If Schroeder doesn't sign an extension could he be packaged for Oladipo?

Would you consider moving Matthews, Markieff and THT for Royce O'Neale?

We will have better option than Oladipo esp after considering the salary situation where we will have to put in fillers which will probably be useful players. Lavine would be a better option than Oladipo and Hawks, Pelicans or Orlando may be viable trading partners.

NO for using Markieff and THT for O'Neale, just not worth it for me. Markieff is valuable come playoff time. A tough player who can shoot the 3s and switch between 4 and 5 depending on match ups. Much better defensive player when guarding both bigger and smaller players than Harrrell. Selling THT depends very much on whether we could resign him to a reasonable deal and how we envision his development.

[Freighttrain]

Wondering if we should go after Drummond, but even more so about what would have to give up. At this point, I feel like we have to do something in the arms race with Brooklyn, and we need a big body because Marc can't provide a solid 25 minutes anymore.

[ROballer]

If we're interested in Drummond as a buyout option, I see us shopping Harrell.

It's beyond stupid to go after Drummond when you already have Gasol/Harrell and Davis who will play plenty of C in the playoffs.
Redundancy at it's finest. Both Drummond and Harrell will pout immediately about their lack of minutes and questionable roles if both are on the roster.

And you can't blame them, both are looking to get paid in the summer.

So it's either one or the other for me.

[chefy]

I say no to Drummond because his elbows are too pointy.

I swear this board sometimes man.

[One Love]

Lakers need some help boys & there are options... I like Whiteside & Drummond what if no buyouts...

1. Send Kuzz & Wesley to for Hart & Hayes (3D & Young Center).

2. Send Schroder & Wesley for Hayes & JJ (Shooter & Young Center).

3. Send Caruso to THT (whichever Lakers don't resign) for Whiteside.

4. Send Schroder for Joseph & Whiteside.

Lets get something done Pelinka.. Lakeshow Baby...

[Beethoven]

Crazy why anyone would want to give up Kuzma , Schroder, or Harrell, I mean, these guys are ballin for our team right now.

[BEazy]

Harrell is a rental. We have to get something out of him if he doesn't resign. I'd rather trade him now than lose him for nothing.

[slifersd]

LaMarcus Aldridge is on the outs with San Antonio. Wonder if he becomes a buyout candidate in the end, since he would present similar challenges to trade as someone like Drummond. If he is bought out, he'd be perfect for us.

[Kilroy]

Crazy why anyone would want to give up Kuzma , Schroder, or Harrell, I mean, these guys are ballin for our team right now.

Of the 3 only Schroder has been a clear positive most nights, but all of them are weird fits... Harrell plays no real Defense, Kuzma is streaky at best, with best being on the odd nights he gets to start, and Schroder is not the greatest PG in the world but that's the role we have for him as a starter...

I'd trade all 3 for the right deal but none of the ones mentioned were right IMO... The only deal I can think of is still for Beal...

What's crazy is people throwing THT in as filler for mediocre bench players...

LMA would be pretty perfect for us right now... But there's something about him that seems to disrupt locker rooms... Figuring LeBron, Klutch, and the rest of the vets could keep him straight, but still... It's not a complete slam-dunk... Also, a lot of overlap with what AD does, as well...

If LMA is a bit of a headcase, as his time in San Antonio may indicate, then maybe between him and Whiteside, I'd rather have Whiteside, for the better more natural fit next to AD.

[zimpy27]

The only real need is SG to PF depth. Right now we got Kuzma, THT, Matthews, Markieff racking up 45 mpg in the playoffs.

I don't think Kuzma can be moved easily due to Poison Pill, unless going to a team with capspace. If you keep Kuzma for 20mpg then you can move Matthews, Markieff, THT for a solid SG/SF.

[BEazy]

I hope we can somehow get Otto Porter Jr.

[kblo247]

Kuzma can't be traded right now because of his new contract... So it wouldn't be a case of overvaluing...

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2059548

I found a way to make it work and posted it on the TnT board, for the Lakers purposes the swap is the same, Graham for Kuzma. I'd only want the Hornets to do the revised deal unless they found a way to get McGee or some other center to plug the hole left by Zeller. But assuming they could find some mediocre center help I think the Hornets should want to size up from Graham to Kuzma. I also think Graham would have a field day w/ the looks LBJ, AD, Dennis create. He can also create for others when needed.

Better yet, you could do Harrell for Graham. Harrell offers a good pick and roll big to pair with Melo and Hayward plus he can play with PJ Washington.

Harrell refused to let the Clippers work a sign and trade to the Hornets this summer when they wanted to send him there so they can get assets and he could get more money. He signed for less to come here. And you can’t trade Harrell without his permission anyway. He’s got the Kcp veto up his sleeve and can just say I refuse to be trade here or there and you can’t move him because if his deal

[iamworthy]

I'd love to have PJ tucker on this team. Slide AD to the 5 and PJ at the 4