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Re: Trades 

Post#501 » by Pythagoras » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:08 pm

Slava wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:If the Knicks are willing to give Schroeder 15 million a year, then the following 3 team deals work…

Schroeder + 2 2nds via the Lakers to the Knicks

McKinnie to the Rockets

EG to the Lakers

Or

Schroeder + 2 2nds via the Lakers to the Knicks

McKinnie + Gasol to the Kings

Hield to the Lakers


If the Knicks want to give Schröder $15M, they can do it without the Lakers' help. They have the cap room for it.


Agreed. That’s why I suggested the Lakers offer them a couple of 2nds to facilitate the deal. They lose nothing by including the Lakers but get a couple of 2nds for their troubles.
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Re: Trades 

Post#502 » by Slava » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:11 pm

Pythagoras wrote:
Slava wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:If the Knicks are willing to give Schroeder 15 million a year, then the following 3 team deals work…

Schroeder + 2 2nds via the Lakers to the Knicks

McKinnie to the Rockets

EG to the Lakers

Or

Schroeder + 2 2nds via the Lakers to the Knicks

McKinnie + Gasol to the Kings

Hield to the Lakers


If the Knicks want to give Schröder $15M, they can do it without the Lakers' help. They have the cap room for it.


Agreed. That’s why I suggested the Lakers offer them a couple of 2nds to facilitate the deal. They lose nothing by including the Lakers but get a couple of 2nds for their troubles.


Well, if its an Eric Gordon salary dump, I'd expect the Rockets to add the picks there.
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Re: Trades 

Post#503 » by tamaraw08 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:50 pm

ROballer wrote:Yeah, that's fair. They might do it for one year.

And curiously, I think the poster above is right. I also thought about Boston as the one team without cap space who would be interested in Schroder.

Apparently they are pondering if they will even offer Fournier a contract because that would mean they're in the luxury tax territory.

But they don't have any shooters. Only guy they got is Horford and I think they're willing to ship him for Schroder since Robert Williams has erupted last year and they also aquired Moses Brown who was pretty good with the Thunder.

With Schroder they can let go of Fournier and swapping his contract with Horford means they don't get to pay the luxury tax.

Question is, do we want Horford?


Edit: Yeah, Smart would work as well although I'm not sure he's on the table.

Can they include a 3rd team like the Kings? Sacramento gets to replace Richaun Holmes. Lakers get Hield, Boston acquires Schroder?
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Re: Trades 

Post#504 » by Jedi32 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:51 pm

Pythagoras wrote:If the Knicks are willing to give Schroeder 15 million a year, then the following 3 team deals work…

Schroeder + 2 2nds via the Lakers to the Knicks

McKinnie to the Rockets

EG to the Lakers

Or

Schroeder + 2 2nds via the Lakers to the Knicks

McKinnie + Gasol to the Kings

Hield to the Lakers

i'd like to keep gasol.
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Re: Trades 

Post#505 » by Pythagoras » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:23 pm

Jedi32 wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:If the Knicks are willing to give Schroeder 15 million a year, then the following 3 team deals work…

Schroeder + 2 2nds via the Lakers to the Knicks

McKinnie to the Rockets

EG to the Lakers

Or

Schroeder + 2 2nds via the Lakers to the Knicks

McKinnie + Gasol to the Kings

Hield to the Lakers

i'd like to keep gasol.


So would I. I was just spitballing ideas. What’s ultimately going to happen is the Lakers probably just get a TPE for Dennis.
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Re: Trades 

Post#506 » by Karmaloop » Sun Aug 1, 2021 6:33 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:Can they include a 3rd team like the Kings? Sacramento gets to replace Richaun Holmes. Lakers get Hield, Boston acquires Schroder?


I belive Boston is either already in the luxury tax, or very close to it. Which would mean acquiring Schroder via S&T would hard cap them.
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Re: Trades 

Post#507 » by Michael Lucky » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:44 am

There are no realistic trades at this point with shroeder. His value is low enough that he will go to a team with the cap space to sign him outright.
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Re: Trades 

Post#508 » by Dmagic » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:22 am

pelicans will need a PG. they can send over reddick
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Re: Trades 

Post#509 » by Lakers24gm » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:25 am

Dmagic wrote:pelicans will need a PG. they can send over reddick


Redick was on the mavs.
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Re: Trades 

Post#510 » by loveshaq786 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:20 am

Clips trade kwahi and rondo and get westbrook

Lakers trade westbrook and schroeder and get siakim, boucher, and lowry(2/35mill)

Toronto gets rondo and kwahi and gives lowry, siakim and boucher


Toronto and clips get value without losing players for nothing
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Re: Trades 

Post#511 » by sc00bysnaqz » Mon Aug 2, 2021 10:02 am

Dennis is walking for nothing. I mean I would not be surprised if Rob somehow pulls something off but I would not hold my breath.
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Re: Trades 

Post#512 » by Pythagoras » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:21 pm

Well, well, well…

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Re: Trades 

Post#513 » by scoobs07 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 4:15 pm

Pythagoras wrote:Well, well, well…

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They do love our players. Lakers might have to match it. I wonder if they would be willing to sign and trade?
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Re: Trades 

Post#514 » by loveshaq786 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 4:18 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:Clips trade kwahi and rondo and get westbrook

Lakers trade westbrook, mckinnie and schroeder and get siakim, boucher, and lowry(2/35mill)

Toronto gets rondo, mckinnie, and kwahi and gives lowry, siakim and boucher


Toronto and clips get value without losing players for nothing



Westbrook trade gets finalized on the 6th.... This could easily be worked out
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Re: Trades 

Post#515 » by LAL1947 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 4:39 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:
loveshaq786 wrote:Clips trade kwahi and rondo and get westbrook

Lakers trade westbrook, mckinnie and schroeder and get siakim, boucher, and lowry(2/35mill)

Toronto gets rondo, mckinnie, and kwahi and gives lowry, siakim and boucher


Toronto and clips get value without losing players for nothing



Westbrook trade gets finalized on the 6th.... This could easily be worked out

Kawhi gave up money to leave Toronto, LA is his home, it's cold in Toronto, and it's Canada!

He's not going back there, lol.
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Re: Trades 

Post#516 » by Ball so hard » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:34 pm

Pythagoras wrote:
Coachcpe wrote:With Chicagos interest in DS. What about
LA out: DS
LA in: Thadeous Young; Colby White

CHI out: Thad Young; Colby White
CHI in: DS

For LA, turns one asset into 2. Colby is a shot maker who can play along side Russ or come off the bench and be of similar effect when he's out the game. Thad young is an energy guy who can play 3/4 and guard multiple positions.

For CHI, Gives them a solid point guard to pair with Lavine and Vucevic.


I’d do this, but assuming the Hield dream is dead, I’d try to further reroute those guys to Houston for EG. I want a shooter playing off RW, AD, and Lebron who doesn’t have a conscious and will keep firing with confidence, even if they slump.


That player you described (McLemore) was on the team last year. I think it's absolutely critical that 'shooter' cannot be porous on defense.
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Re: Trades 

Post#517 » by Ball so hard » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:54 pm

scoobs07 wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:Well, well, well…

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They do love our players. Lakers might have to match it. I wonder if they would be willing to sign and trade?


Caruso is an unrestricted FA. The Wizards can sign Caruso outright at the number being reported. It makes little sense for them to do a sign and trade for Caruso.
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Re: Trades 

Post#518 » by Pythagoras » Mon Aug 2, 2021 8:10 pm

Ball so hard wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:
Coachcpe wrote:With Chicagos interest in DS. What about
LA out: DS
LA in: Thadeous Young; Colby White

CHI out: Thad Young; Colby White
CHI in: DS

For LA, turns one asset into 2. Colby is a shot maker who can play along side Russ or come off the bench and be of similar effect when he's out the game. Thad young is an energy guy who can play 3/4 and guard multiple positions.

For CHI, Gives them a solid point guard to pair with Lavine and Vucevic.


I’d do this, but assuming the Hield dream is dead, I’d try to further reroute those guys to Houston for EG. I want a shooter playing off RW, AD, and Lebron who doesn’t have a conscious and will keep firing with confidence, even if they slump.


That player you described (McLemore) was on the team last year. I think it's absolutely critical that 'shooter' cannot be porous on defense.


McLemore isn’t a comparable player to EG in any way, nor is he anything above a 9th or 10th man on any real NBA rotation. Why don’t you name me all the available shooters who aren’t “porous on defense”? Most teams can handle one or two weak defenders on the roster, especially at the guard positions.

The Lakers posted a worse offensive rating in the playoffs than the freaking Thunder did during the regular season. They just added one of the worst guard shooters in the league. They’re planning on bringing back THT, another guard who sucks as a shooter. The team needs shooting.
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Re: Trades 

Post#519 » by loveshaq786 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:36 am

We could be in the running for Josh Hart since the pelicans look very slim at the point guard position....

I would love to steal an exemption for the cap a pic and Josh Hart for Schroeder...

We could use that cap exception to take on a contract outright
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Re: Trades 

Post#520 » by Ball so hard » Tue Aug 3, 2021 1:23 am

Pythagoras wrote:
Ball so hard wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:
I’d do this, but assuming the Hield dream is dead, I’d try to further reroute those guys to Houston for EG. I want a shooter playing off RW, AD, and Lebron who doesn’t have a conscious and will keep firing with confidence, even if they slump.


That player you described (McLemore) was on the team last year. I think it's absolutely critical that 'shooter' cannot be porous on defense.


McLemore isn’t a comparable player to EG in any way, nor is he anything above a 9th or 10th man on any real NBA rotation. Why don’t you name me all the available shooters who aren’t “porous on defense”? Most teams can handle one or two weak defenders on the roster, especially at the guard positions.

The Lakers posted a worse offensive rating in the playoffs than the freaking Thunder did during the regular season. They just added one of the worst guard shooters in the league. They’re planning on bringing back THT, another guard who sucks as a shooter. The team needs shooting.


You're clearly missing the point. McLemore was played sparingly because he couldn't defend anyone. He didn't play because he was ineffective or inefficient at the one thing he does best-shooting the basketball. Everyone knows McLemore is almost never hesitant to shoot the ball, slump and all. He shot 37% from 3s on over 5 attempts while on our team. Like I've said the part in the bold perfectly describes McLemore. There's thing that's clear with regard to Vogel's coaching... if you're awful on defense you will likely see limited action, unless your contribution on offense outweighs what you give up on defense. And you're flat out wrong about McLemore not being comparable to EG in anyway.

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