Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick

[snaquille oatmeal]

The funny story is that Nets had #22 and we couldn't even get the better pick out of them in this deal. Jesus wept at this ineptitude.

Yep. Did that conversation even occur? Did Magic and Pelinka even know this?

Google knew

[TonyMontana]

hei Tony Mo

what i don't like about this deal is that we could have gotten more for Dlo. say what you will about the kid we should have gotten more,

Whats good brother? Been a while.

I agree with you but there were no other offers on the table and everyone knows we were looking to move him yet no offers. I think we did okay with this trade and as you know me brother Im not about that couldve wouldve shouldve. Me personally am good with this trade.

Sup Ton! Good to hear from you man.

My issue is the timing. You shouldn't pull a move of this magnitude until agreements are made. You should not prioritize cap space a year early over player development and the draft. In a years time, Russell's value would have improved. All the signs point in that direction. How he finished the season, his work ethic so far this summer, how he'll be playing with a player who can actually get him the ball and where Mozgov's contract is 2 years instead of 3.

Also, there's other ways to get to 2 max's. You stretch Deng & Mozgov and you trade Clarkson and Randle. Problem solved. To give up one of your best assets, when the value is at it's absolute lowest.. doesn't make any sense.

Whats good brother? Been a while.

You do make a lot of valid points but honestly IMHO as well as others Dlo value wasnt improving. If anything it was declining. Again IMO. Having said that I doubt Magic would pull the plug on Dlo and Maz contract if he didnt have some sort of guarantee by PG that he was heading to LA. No matter what the Pacers say or want they arent getting any value in return for P.G. He has already made his mind up. If he had any doubts then his desire to leave Indi and play for the Lakers wouldnt have been leaked.
We dumped Maz salary, a decent center and got an expiring contract. When was the last time the Lakers had 3 1st round picks?

[76ciology]

Downside of this deal is Lakers need to make sure they get PG, at a cheap price if they opt for a trade. If they do, then it will justify this trade.

[Michael Lucky]

Downside of this deal is Lakers need to make sure they get PG, at a cheap price if they opt for a trade. If they do, then it will justify this trade.

They need to get good FAs period in 2018 now. This is the cap space that was opened up at a high price for it. You get nothing in 2018 for it and well.....

[Danny Darko]

I think Russell will improve, I actually think this trade will ensure that he makes a leap this year, BUT-

I think he's the kind of guy that can be very good and still not contribute much to a team's success. Until last year, Harden was basically that guy.

[karkinos]

so we tanked the previous season to get dlo, sign mozgov to a contract we don't want, and somehow you're supposed to tell me trading last year's #2 pick and a stupid contract to get brook lopez and #27 is a good deal?

we tanked all of last season to get lopez and the #27 pick of this season???

lol wut

[DNP-Old]

so we tanked the previous season to get dlo, sign mozgov to a contract we don't want, and somehow you're supposed to tell me trading last year's #2 pick and a stupid contract to get brook lopez and #27 is a good deal?

we tanked all of last season to get lopez and the #27 pick of this season???

lol wut

No, that was for Ingram.

[Edrees]

Apparently lakers offered Russell for 9th pick and Dallas declined. Guys I think the lakers brass did dangle Russell and teams did not want him. Take off those glasses and realize that their is a reason many people did not want Russell. The value that many of you see in Russell is not the value that many around the league feel. I really think his immaturity bothers a lot of people around the league. Let's move on now.

Then let him play a lot of minutes to increase his value and trade him at the deadline. Why the rush? Even if Lakers get paul George we aren't making the playoffs, people need to wake up.

[Danny Darko]

Downside of this deal is Lakers need to make sure they get PG, at a cheap price if they opt for a trade. If they do, then it will justify this trade.

They'll get PG, but what's the hurry? I understand Indy asking for #2, but really why give up anything other than late picks and maybe Randle?

[karkinos]

so we tanked the previous season to get dlo, sign mozgov to a contract we don't want, and somehow you're supposed to tell me trading last year's #2 pick and a stupid contract to get brook lopez and #27 is a good deal?

we tanked all of last season to get lopez and the #27 pick of this season???

lol wut

No, that was for Ingram.

sorry had my seasons mixed up
but regardless
you're trading a #2 pick from 2015 to send off a bad contract signed in 2016?
and somehow getting brook lopez and a #27 is supposed to be a fair deal?

[DNP-Old]

so we tanked the previous season to get dlo, sign mozgov to a contract we don't want, and somehow you're supposed to tell me trading last year's #2 pick and a stupid contract to get brook lopez and #27 is a good deal?

we tanked all of last season to get lopez and the #27 pick of this season???

lol wut

No, that was for Ingram.

sorry had my seasons mixed up
but regardless
you're trading a #2 pick from 2015 to send off a bad contract signed in 2016?
and somehow getting brook lopez and a #27 is supposed to be a fair deal?

Maybe LAL decided Russell was part of the problem and not part of the solution and with no takers for him in the lottery, went ahead with the dump.

[TyCobb]

so we tanked the previous season to get dlo, sign mozgov to a contract we don't want, and somehow you're supposed to tell me trading last year's #2 pick and a stupid contract to get brook lopez and #27 is a good deal?

we tanked all of last season to get lopez and the #27 pick of this season???

lol wut

No, that was for Ingram.

sorry had my seasons mixed up
but regardless
you're trading a #2 pick from 2015 to send off a bad contract signed in 2016?
and somehow getting brook lopez and a #27 is supposed to be a fair deal?

If you're going to draw back from moves 2 years ago, shouldn't you give the same courtesy to allow Magic and Rob's plan to unfold beyond one DAY from their 2nd move?

[karkinos]

No, that was for Ingram.

sorry had my seasons mixed up
but regardless
you're trading a #2 pick from 2015 to send off a bad contract signed in 2016?
and somehow getting brook lopez and a #27 is supposed to be a fair deal?

If you're going to draw back from moves 2 years ago, shouldn't you give the same courtesy to allow Magic and Rob's plan to unfold beyond one DAY from their 2nd move?

i think using one of our top assets to erase a massive contract signed from the previous season is poor management of assets.
if you're asking for me to be more patient, not sure why they weren't more patient with either player. let's remind ourselves nick young somehow managed to be a laker longer than either of them.

[One Love]

If we don't land PG now for 27/28 & either Clarkson or Randle than the trade was a HUGE miscalculation... We could have dumped Mozzy next year with two years left on his deal... That being said, you can't build a contender with one move but we can improve smith each deal...

[Pointgod]

The difference is that Magic actually attracts free agents while Jim and Mitch repelled them. How many times during the Mitch era did a star player force his way to the Lakers?

How many times has a star player forced his way to the Lakers with Magic? Lets not count our chickens until the eggs hatch.

That's the same kind of crap that got us in trouble in the first place. Except it used to be "This is LA, everyone wants to sign here", now it's "We got Magic everyone likes him so they'll sign here"

Lol wait am I living in bizzaro world. Is Paul George asking the pacers to trade him not trying to force his way to the Lakers? So we're not going to give Magic credit for that? Mitch and Jim wrongly assumed being the Lakers was good enough because they otherwise had no plan and inspired zero confidence from free agents. Magic and Pelinka are showing that they are active and will provide a superstar the opportunity to play with others

[Kilroy]

Downside of this deal is Lakers need to make sure they get PG, at a cheap price if they opt for a trade. If they do, then it will justify this trade.

They'll get PG, but what's the hurry? I understand Indy asking for #2, but really why give up anything other than late picks and maybe Randle?

Yeah, I think asking for #2 is patently ridiculous... And basically saying you don't want to trade him.
Pritchard 'setting the market' is silly if he's going to throw out nonsense like that.

And some would say the D'Lo trade makes sense by itself... I can see that argument honestly, but I think given the timing and context of the PG thing, and the fact that they were supposedly asking for 'multiple firsts" for him... It's hard to not see that as a precursor to acquiring PG...
And as such, it's hard to not see an inability to not complete the PG trade, as a failure, IF IN FACT that happens.

I agree we need to be patient and see what happens, at least we don't have to wait very long.

[ISayshowmee]

All I am asking for from the Lakers in the upcoming season, let us compete to even smell the playoffs instead of talking about ping pong balls and draft picks !!

Hope this is not much to ask....

[10DayContract]

Apparently lakers offered Russell for 9th pick and Dallas declined. Guys I think the lakers brass did dangle Russell and teams did not want him. Take off those glasses and realize that their is a reason many people did not want Russell. The value that many of you see in Russell is not the value that many around the league feel. I really think his immaturity bothers a lot of people around the league. Let's move on now.

Then let him play a lot of minutes to increase his value and trade him at the deadline. Why the rush? Even if Lakers get paul George we aren't making the playoffs, people need to wake up.

They probably didn't want him to be around Ball.

[TyCobb]

Apparently lakers offered Russell for 9th pick and Dallas declined. Guys I think the lakers brass did dangle Russell and teams did not want him. Take off those glasses and realize that their is a reason many people did not want Russell. The value that many of you see in Russell is not the value that many around the league feel. I really think his immaturity bothers a lot of people around the league. Let's move on now.

Then let him play a lot of minutes to increase his value and trade him at the deadline. Why the rush? Even if Lakers get paul George we aren't making the playoffs, people need to wake up.

They probably didn't want him to be around Ball.

Yup his sulking after Lonzo steals his shine would have weakened his value around the league even more. He slipped up on social media, and it didn't go unnoticed by the FO's eyes.

[danfantastk32]

Yup his sulking after Lonzo steals his shine would have weakened his value around the league even more. He slipped up on social media, and it didn't go unnoticed by the FO's eyes.

To be fair...it was his first mistake on social media. He prob aughta be given a chance to learn and grow.

But I think you've nailed it, personally. DLO doesnt want to be 'demoted' to SG....or however he sees it. I am sure they have had conversations, and things like his twitter comment let the FO know what they were gonna be dealing with. And as another poster pointed out....he was shopped around, and it looks like this was his market value.

It's a little depressing....and a damn shame we had to waste it cleaning up mistake-contracts. But it is what it is.

1-bad contract down...1 to go.

Clear that space now, while we have picks.....and not next year, when we will be desperate to do it, and team can tag us for more loot. This was smart work, IMO.