Trades

[Vann]

I’m thinking he has already demanded out.

I'd rather Lakers just ride it out to offseason without busting the young core members. There will be more and much better opportunities later on, and right now the prices are inflated. Better to build for the future, and be patient. And it's not like we are suddenly a title contender right away. Playoffs do require at least a middling defence.

Also, Danny Ainge hoodwinked? Would Jazz management really have let him waste a chance for free assets? Would Danny Ainge himself pass a gift of 17th pick rookie and 2 seconds? I think we already have an answer for that... He's just inflating Kesslers price and hoping somebody in Lakers will be impatient (and stupid) enough to pay that inflated price. Kessler will not move the needle, and Knecht is obviously a better player. Potential great one too. Keep him. Develop him. Do not waste him for a gamble on this season.

[danfantastk32]

I’m thinking he has already demanded out.

I'd rather Lakers just ride it out to offseason without busting the young core members. There will be more and much better opportunities later on, and right now the prices are inflated. Better to build for the future, and be patient. And it's not like we are suddenly a title contender right away. Playoffs do require at least a middling defence.

Also, Danny Ainge hoodwinked? Would Jazz management really have let him waste a chance for free assets? Would Danny Ainge himself pass a gift of 17th pick rookie and 2 seconds? I think we already have an answer for that... He's just inflating Kesslers price and hoping somebody in Lakers will be impatient (and stupid) enough to pay that inflated price. Kessler will not move the needle, and Knecht is obviously a better player. Potential great one too. Keep him. Develop him. Do not waste him for a gamble on this season.

100% We no longer have a rapidly closing window. Our main piece is 25 years old. Take a minute and do it right.

[SlimShady83]

I'm still all-in on Kessler. I get that Ainge is asking for everything, but that combination of age, fit and contract is ideal. If it cost Reaves, then so be it. Get back Svi and Sexton as wel and move on.

Good to see we finally on the same page, but like I said will cost a lot.

All In baby; Rui, Reaves, Knecht, FRP ... Kessler, Collins, SVI ... Lots of teams going BIG and this gives us a solid big line up. Svi replaces Knecht well sort of, but you know what I mean I think. Collins Is upgrade over Rui, solid bench player (6thman) for now and well we all know Kessler baby ... I wanted Sexton b4 but don't think his really that needed now IMO.

Lakers will be fine.

Edit: If you're still worried about the FRP, keep In mind after I think 2031 Lakers own all there pics, If I'm not mistaken .

[DanishLakerFan]

I’m thinking he has already demanded out.

I'd rather Lakers just ride it out to offseason without busting the young core members. There will be more and much better opportunities later on, and right now the prices are inflated. Better to build for the future, and be patient. And it's not like we are suddenly a title contender right away. Playoffs do require at least a middling defence.

Also, Danny Ainge hoodwinked? Would Jazz management really have let him waste a chance for free assets? Would Danny Ainge himself pass a gift of 17th pick rookie and 2 seconds? I think we already have an answer for that... He's just inflating Kesslers price and hoping somebody in Lakers will be impatient (and stupid) enough to pay that inflated price. Kessler will not move the needle, and Knecht is obviously a better player. Potential great one too. Keep him. Develop him. Do not waste him for a gamble on this season.

I agree to an extent that the Lakers have to play the long game here, but Kessler would fit both the short and long timeline. And in my opinion he would most certainly move the needle in the short term.

Knecht, '27 protection removed, unprotected '31 for Kessler. Then flip Rui+Reddish+2nd rounders to Chicago for Lonzo.

Lonzo - Luka - DFS - Lebron - Kessler
Gabe - Reaves - Vando - Wood - Hayes.

That team can win a title this season.

[Vann]

@DanishLakerFan
I think that Knecht will be a great player, and I just don't feel giving him up for Kessler will turn to be a good deal. And also I think losing that one remaining FRP will come back to bite Lakers in the offseason.

That '27s protection is void anyway and everybody understands that, now that we got Luka.
Besides Chicago will demand an FRP for Lonzo, and I'm not sure if he's a good fit in a Luka&Lebron team that will require more outside shooting.

[DanishLakerFan]

@DanishLakerFan
I think that Knecht will be a great player, and I just don't feel giving him up for Kessler will turn to be a good deal. And also I think losing that one remaining FRP will come back to bite Lakers in the offseason.

That '27s protection is void anyway and everybody understands that, now that we got Luka.
Besides Chicago will demand an FRP for Lonzo, and I'm not sure if he's a good fit in a Luka&Lebron team that will require more outside shooting.

I'm not as high on Knecht as you are. But i could very well be wrong. But regardless of his ceiling i think it is key to be competitive in the Lebron-window as welll as post-Lebron. In that regard i think Kessler is much more ready right now, fits a major need and can be on both timelines.

Of course there are other options as well, but Kessler is just the best imo.

[Realtalk420]

What about Kleber for Thybulle? A player who hasn’t played a single minute this season for a player that won’t play this season anymore. Kleber is a bad contract and is most likely done for the season, even if not he overlaps with Vanderbilt. So swap him for a similar “bad” contract of Thybulle. There are obviously concerns about his health and shape but I think if he is traded he is magically going to be healthy in no time, I think they are not rushing him back because they are tanking. Lakers would owe a second or 2. What do you think?

Maxi is hurt and is dead money. He also can’t be aggregated in a trade… I think it would be smart to move him for a similar “bad” contract (2 years) that can at least contribute something, if it does’t work the contract is expiring in the summer anyways.

[Beethoven]

Embiid for AR rui Gabe and Vanderbilt

Please no.

[tamaraw08]

I'm still all-in on Kessler. I get that Ainge is asking for everything, but that combination of age, fit and contract is ideal. If it cost Reaves, then so be it. Get back Svi and Sexton as wel and move on.

Good to see we finally on the same page, but like I said will cost a lot.

All In baby; Rui, Reaves, Knecht, FRP ... Kessler, Collins, SVI ... Lots of teams going BIG and this gives us a solid big line up. Svi replaces Knecht well sort of, but you know what I mean I think. Collins Is upgrade over Rui, solid bench player (6thman) for now and well we all know Kessler baby ... I wanted Sexton b4 but don't think his really that needed now IMO.

Lakers will be fine.

Edit: If you're still worried about the FRP, keep In mind after I think 2031 Lakers own all there pics, If I'm not mistaken .

I think everyone really likes Kessler but I imagine ex Celtics greats Bird, McHale etc warning Ainge not to help the Lakers anymore or else he would be blacklisted in Boston.
So what do you guys think about the 23 year old Mark Williams? He actually has a higher PER, DRTG, ORTG, PTS than Walker.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima07.html
Actually averaging 21pts last 5 games.
https://youtu.be/MUqi6C4LdEU?si=6LeNktFneeUYcPJu
What kind of assets would be realistic to offer Charlotte?
Other alternatives? Capela? Can Nico still trade Gafford before he get's lynched there?

[stan francisco]

Ainge was thrown out of Boston, should be motivated — given the New England envy ridden and revenge lust mentality — why wouldn’t he help us after that?

[SlimShady83]

I'm still all-in on Kessler. I get that Ainge is asking for everything, but that combination of age, fit and contract is ideal. If it cost Reaves, then so be it. Get back Svi and Sexton as wel and move on.

Good to see we finally on the same page, but like I said will cost a lot.

All In baby; Rui, Reaves, Knecht, FRP ... Kessler, Collins, SVI ... Lots of teams going BIG and this gives us a solid big line up. Svi replaces Knecht well sort of, but you know what I mean I think. Collins Is upgrade over Rui, solid bench player (6thman) for now and well we all know Kessler baby ... I wanted Sexton b4 but don't think his really that needed now IMO.

Lakers will be fine.

Edit: If you're still worried about the FRP, keep In mind after I think 2031 Lakers own all there pics, If I'm not mistaken .

I think everyone really likes Kessler but I imagine ex Celtics greats Bird, McHale etc warning Ainge not to help the Lakers anymore or else he would be blacklisted in Boston.
So what do you guys think about the 23 year old Mark Williams? He actually has a higher PER, DRTG, ORTG, PTS than Walker.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima07.html
Actually averaging 21pts last 5 games.
https://youtu.be/MUqi6C4LdEU?si=6LeNktFneeUYcPJu
What kind of assets would be realistic to offer Charlotte?
Other alternatives? Capela? Can Nico still trade Gafford before he get's lynched there?

While my Allround knowledge isn't the best it's getting better, not sure who M Williams is, I'll take a look when home, just starting boring work in carpark lol

[BliscoSantos]

I don't think the team will be able to add any significant value on C position...they engaged Rockets for Adams but they're far apart... it's gonna be hard to upgrade the roster because it seems the GM/other teams are pissed that the deal between Mavs was done without anyone being able to get in on that deal...the only way they Will be able to upgrade is if they overpay ,which I don't think is a good idea

[stan francisco]

DFS is switchable 1 through 5. So is Vanderbilt. Reaves’ defense against Leonard yesterday was solid. He can guard 1-3. Gave Vincent did a great job on Harden. He can guard 1-3 effectively.

I’m really digging our team defense as is, but we do need a tall C to go against Wemby, Holmgren etc. And we will need Luka to become an actual part of our team defense, not just steals.

Holmgren would be perfect but won’t happen.

[Beethoven]

What's this talk about Lonzo? Isn't he chronically ill in the knees??

[SlimShady83]

What's this talk about Lonzo? Isn't he chronically ill in the knees??

Only keen if it's on th buyout ( if he gets bought out) but even then I'm sure many others better then Lonzo and not wanting to deal with his dad in the media etc

[LAKESHOW]

I don't think he will be a target. Moreso vucevic than ball. But anyways, there was a great write up on espn I think, regarding his journey. Like Ball was almost giving up all hope. Then some dude introduced some new surgery, and it worked. Or it's currently working now. Great story of his recovery

[danfantastk32]

Ainge was thrown out of Boston, should be motivated — given the New England envy ridden and revenge lust mentality — why wouldn’t he help us after that?

According to Ainge, he had a heart-attack, and as well the new Covid protocols made things alot less fun. It was his decision to step down, and figured he'd prob be done with B-Ball all-together. Fast-Forward 7months, and he got an opportunity to fill a much lesser roll with that Jazz, alongside his longtime friend (I think he lives there too).

“I just felt like I needed a break, well before the playoffs started,” Ainge told Shaughnessy. “And I also felt like the team was in great hands. When I decided to walk, I didn’t think that Brad [Stevens] would take over my spot. I thought that Brad would still be coaching. I just wanted to get away from the game for a while, and I’ve done that for seven months and I feel reenergized and I have a unique opportunity to work with a good friend [Jazz owner Ryan Smith]. This is a much different role [than in Boston]. It’s a much lesser role. It happened quickly, over a period of a couple of days when I finally showed a little interest with Ryan.”

Even though he’s no longer with the Celtics organization, Ainge admits that he’s watched every Celtics game so far this season. After 26 seasons with the Celtics as a player (eight) and the president of basketball operations (18), he shared that he has “so many relationships” from his time in Boston. “Those relationships don’t die, when you invest that much time in people,” Ainge said. “Maybe there’s a time down the road where I won’t do this, but I still follow Avery Bradley and Rajon Rondo and still stay in touch with them.

So no....Ainge ain't doin the Lakers no favors.

[SlimShady83]

@DanishLakerFan
I think that Knecht will be a great player, and I just don't feel giving him up for Kessler will turn to be a good deal. And also I think losing that one remaining FRP will come back to bite Lakers in the offseason.

That '27s protection is void anyway and everybody understands that, now that we got Luka.
Besides Chicago will demand an FRP for Lonzo, and I'm not sure if he's a good fit in a Luka&Lebron team that will require more outside shooting.

Bulls might demand a frp for Lonzo, but they def not getting that, at least straight up.

I'd trade Knecht and pics for Kessler in a heartbeat, even buy Utah free taco's for life

[Beethoven]

Here's something..

The fact that everyone knows we need a center and that Rob shouldn't be oblivious to that fact and that he traded away AD,
I'm sure he has something up his sleeve to reveal by tomorrow.
If it was just some trade for a mediocre center it would have been done already.

[Danny Darko]

@DanishLakerFan
I think that Knecht will be a great player, and I just don't feel giving him up for Kessler will turn to be a good deal. And also I think losing that one remaining FRP will come back to bite Lakers in the offseason.

That '27s protection is void anyway and everybody understands that, now that we got Luka.
Besides Chicago will demand an FRP for Lonzo, and I'm not sure if he's a good fit in a Luka&Lebron team that will require more outside shooting.

Bulls might demand a frp for Lonzo, but they def not getting that, at least straight up.

I'd trade Knecht and pics for Kessler in a heartbeat, even buy Utah free taco's for life

It's more likely he's cut... I love Lonzo but a FRP is not worth his health gamble anymore