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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#581 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:50 am

Laker_Kid wrote:us trying to deal #2 for #5 and #10 seemed like a good plan. we'll have to settle for fox or tatum or whoever at #5 and then offer deng #10 #27 and #28 for george. too bad this didn't pull through. would be great if it did though. i wont mind replacing dlo with fox.

also. max kellerman mentioned on first take that we'd essentially have brook lopez and paul george's bird rights.

that said. maybe magic and rob actually know what they're doing. let's give them a chance.


For me....I wanna wait till PG becomes a free agent. Then the max we can offer him is about $10mil less per year than what we can (have to) offer him if we sign him this year, and then resign once the contract expires.

PG is no fool. He knows this....and is of course eager to see a deal reached now. But it would be much better for us, if we waited and signed him as a FA next year.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#582 » by Dr Aki » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:05 am

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Laker_Kid wrote:us trying to deal #2 for #5 and #10 seemed like a good plan. we'll have to settle for fox or tatum or whoever at #5 and then offer deng #10 #27 and #28 for george. too bad this didn't pull through. would be great if it did though. i wont mind replacing dlo with fox.

also. max kellerman mentioned on first take that we'd essentially have brook lopez and paul george's bird rights.

that said. maybe magic and rob actually know what they're doing. let's give them a chance.


For me....I wanna wait till PG becomes a free agent. Then the max we can offer him is about $10mil less per year than what we can (have to) offer him if we sign him this year, and then resign once the contract expires.

PG is no fool. He knows this....and is of course eager to see a deal reached now. But it would be much better for us, if we waited and signed him as a FA next year.


uuuhhh no... every team can offer him the same base contract at 30% of the cap (because he'd be a 7 year vet)

the difference is that whoever holds his bird rights can offer PG 8% raises as opposed to 5% raises, which amounts to 3% difference over 2 years and 9% difference over 3 years of the 30% of the cap

if the cap was 100 mil (for simplicity sake), 30% of the cap is a base 30.0 mil in year 1, 32.4 mil in year 2, 34.8 mil in year 3... (no compounding), whereas we'd be able to offer 30.0 mil in year 1, 31.5 mil in year 2 and 33.0 mil in year 3...

of course, we'd be offering a 4 year contract, and indiana could offer a 5 year contract

overall difference across the first 3 years is 2.7 million dollars, by then we'll earn PG's bird rights and then re-sign him for 35% of the cap if the cap has risen further enough for 35% of the cap to be more than the 4th year number
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#583 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:13 am

lol I read some of the msgs on Nets board

Most of them are upset about getting: Dlo the Snitch! and trading Lopez

Most of us are upset for trading DLO (not me) and getting expiring Lopez

lol so hard at this
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#584 » by Desiderium » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:09 am

It's not that I'm mad about trading D'Angelo, but more pissed at the fact that we made the trade because of our stupidity of signing Mozgov to that giant deal. A whole season of tanking for nothing.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#585 » by Slava » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:37 am

skullz wrote:lol I read some of the msgs on Nets board

Most of them are upset about getting: Dlo the Snitch! and trading Lopez

Most of us are upset for trading DLO (not me) and getting expiring Lopez

lol so hard at this


Pretty sure most of them would be threatened Lin stans.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#586 » by LakersSoul » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:48 am

Desiderium wrote:It's not that I'm mad about trading D'Angelo, but more pissed at the fact that we made the trade because of our stupidity of signing Mozgov to that giant deal. A whole season of tanking for nothing.


Imagine what we could have gotten if we didnt panic with Moz/Deng? We could have picked up some decent but overpriced players and gotten some fine picks.

smh...

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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#587 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:09 am

Amazing. Magic saves you Lakers fans from Kupchak and yourselves. Dlo is garbage and you ditched Mozgov's albatross AND got a first in return? Un effing believable.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#589 » by Spens1 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:11 am

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the way things where going i was thinking it would be done. Well hopefully they're patient and don't do something stupid like the Russell deal.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#590 » by ISayshowmee » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:14 am

Desiderium wrote:It's not that I'm mad about trading D'Angelo, but more pissed at the fact that we made the trade because of our stupidity of signing Mozgov to that giant deal. A whole season of tanking for nothing.


I share your sentiments
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Post#591 » by ISayshowmee » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:17 am

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Desiderium wrote:It's not that I'm mad about trading D'Angelo, but more pissed at the fact that we made the trade because of our stupidity of signing Mozgov to that giant deal. A whole season of tanking for nothing.


Imagine what we could have gotten if we didnt panic with Moz/Deng? We could have picked up some decent but overpriced players and gotten some fine picks.

smh...


'Decent but overpriced. ---- Deng and Mozgov exactly !!! So why even make a trade ? Just to get draft picks ?
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#592 » by Spanish_Laker » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:26 pm

Is it official? I haven't seen anything from the Lakers website, IG or Twitter. The same goes for the Nets' ones.
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Post#593 » by Slava » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:07 pm

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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#594 » by Laker_Kid » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:41 pm

it's the calm before the storm.

they're currently having a farewell party for george and he's just about saying goodbye to everyone in indiana. they'll announce the trade after the party.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#595 » by milesfides » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:39 pm

Indy offered Paul George if the Lakers did the Nets deal, then backed out to get revenge. Hurt people hurt people.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#596 » by milesfides » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:45 pm

Can't believe I spent half a year trying to defend myself that I wasn't a D'Angelo hater, only to find out I was actually a fanatical homer.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#597 » by Slava » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:49 pm

milesfides wrote:Indy offered Paul George if the Lakers did the Nets deal, then backed out to get revenge. Hurt people hurt people.


Trade isn't official yet and trade call hasn't been made with the league office. If it was contingent on Pacers deal, Lakers would be monumentally stupid for not making it a 3 team deal.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#598 » by Michael Lucky » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:11 pm

milesfides wrote:Indy offered Paul George if the Lakers did the Nets deal, then backed out to get revenge. Hurt people hurt people.

yeah, the fact that there's a report that Indy wanted Russell, doesn't make this deal easier to swallow at this point. :noway:
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#599 » by SF_Warriors » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:47 pm

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Slava wrote:If the plan was to create space for Lebron we could just have dumped Deng and Mozgov with Russell or another asset for nothing in return.


That wouldn't work, though, would it? You have to bring back comparable salary. Either way we end up in the same spot. We're trading Russell for about $40 million in space and a 1st. Not sexy at all, and a big risk with the LeBron piece -- George seems like a given at this point -- but that's the plan.


All you need is a team with cap space who can absorb that salary or send us expiring back. For a talent like Russell it wouldn't have been hard to find.


But how many teams can absorb 34 million in salary though and would want to have that albatross for the next three years? 34 million can sign a very good player, much better than russell. Only sac and philly have the means to do so, really.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#600 » by DS17 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:54 pm

ISayshowmee wrote:
Desiderium wrote:It's not that I'm mad about trading D'Angelo, but more pissed at the fact that we made the trade because of our stupidity of signing Mozgov to that giant deal. A whole season of tanking for nothing.


I share your sentiments


We still got Larry nance that draft yr :)

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