All things number 4. Trade or draft? Let the rumors begin

[milesfides]

Trade Lebron to the Pelicans for no.1. Everybody’s happy

[Michael Lucky]

Trade Lebron to the Pelicans for no.1. Everybody’s happy

NO says NO.

[gordonyao]

Culver, we need SG

[zimpy27]

Would you entertain #7 for ball?

Laughably bad for the Lakers

Yeah - I wouldn’t go that far. Might have an inflated sense of Lonzos value. But nonetheless thanks for the info.

What about Ball and pick 4 for Lauri and pick 7?

[pmart123]

Plot twist: lebron and 4 for Zion. Lbj/ad/holiday/mirotic/Randle/garland. That team can compete

Haha. In a twist of irony, that makes a lot of sense. The Lakers aren't going to get AD for the 4th pick + filler now. New Orleans would make the trade for the 2nd pick to pair Morant and Zion, but at 4, they are much better rolling with a superstar and the potential next generational player. Your proposal though makes a lot of sense for the Lakers: they can add another lottery pick or two in the next two years and use the Zion plus LA appeal to draw a top FA in his contract year. Meanwhile, New Orleans can legitimately get a short shot at a title versus watching AD leave next year and Zion demand a trade in year 5.

[pmart123]

Laughably bad for the Lakers

Yeah - I wouldn’t go that far. Might have an inflated sense of Lonzos value. But nonetheless thanks for the info.

What about Ball and pick 4 for Lauri and pick 7?

Lauri is likely the only one in that deal that has a shot at being an all-star, so it doesn't make sense why the Bulls would want to do that. If there was an unprotected 2022 draft pick included, then I'd say they should go for it. At that point though, I think I would rather just throw in the towel and have a 2021 swap and the 2022 unprotected pick versus Lonzo included.

[zimpy27]

Yeah - I wouldn’t go that far. Might have an inflated sense of Lonzos value. But nonetheless thanks for the info.

What about Ball and pick 4 for Lauri and pick 7?

Lauri is likely the only one in that deal that has a shot at being an all-star, so it doesn't make sense why the Bulls would want to do that. If there was an unprotected 2022 draft pick included, then I'd say they should go for it. At that point though, I think I would rather just throw in the towel and have a 2021 swap and the 2022 unprotected pick versus Lonzo included.

Any piece in the trade could be an all-star. Lauri health is questionable but yes he is the better player.

I think the trade would get thought about for both sides. Though Lakers probably to prefer to move Ingram and pick 4 for lauri and pick 7

[iamworthy]

Trade Lebron to the Pelicans for no.1. Everybody’s happy

NO says NO.

[Danny Darko]

4th picks:
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/history-of-the-nba-draft-by-pick/history-of-the-nba-draft-pick-number-4/

2017 Josh Jackson, Kansas – Phoenix Suns
2016 Dragan Bender, Israel – Phoenix Suns
2015 Kristaps Porzingis, Baloncesta Sevilla – New York Knicks
2014 Aaron Gordon, Arizona – Orlando Magic
2013 Cody Zeller, Indiana – Charlotte Bobcats
2012 Dion Waiters, Syracuse – Cleveland Cavaliers
2011 Tristan Thompson, Texas – Cleveland Cavaliers
2010 Wesley Johnson, Syracuse – Minnesota Timberwolves

2000’s

2009 Tyreke Evans, Memphis – Sacramento Kings
2008 Russell Westbrook, UCLA – Seattle Supersonics
2007 Mike Conley Jr, Ohio State – Memphis Grizzlies
2006 Tyrus Thomas, Louisiana State – Portland Trail Blazers
2005 Chris Paul, Wake Forest – New Orleans Hornets
2004 Shaun Livingston, Peoria HS (IL) – L.A. Clippers
2003 Chris Bosh, Georgia Tech – Toronto Raptors
2002 Drew Gooden, Kansas – Memphis Grizzlies
2001 Eddy Curry, Thornwood HS (IL) – Chicago Bulls
2000 Marcus Fizer, Iowa State – Chicago Bulls

1990’s

1999 Lamar Odom, Rhode Island – L.A. Clippers
1998 Antawn Jamison, North Carolina – Toronto Raptors
1997 Antonio Daniels, Bowling Green – Vancouver Grizzlies
1996 Stephon Marbury, Georgia Tech – Milwaukee Bucks
1995 Rasheed Wallace, North Carolina – Washington Bullets
1994 Donyell Marshall, Connecticut – Minnesota Timberwolves
1993 Jamal Mashburn, Kentucky – Dallas Mavericks
1992 Jim Jackson, Ohio State – Dallas Mavericks
1991 Dikembe Mutombo, Georgetown – Denver Nuggets
1990 Dennis Scott, Georgia Tech – Orlando Magic

1980’s

1989 Glen Rice, Michigan – Miami HEAT
1988 Chris Morris, Auburn – New Jersey Nets
1987 Reggie Williams, Georgetown – L.A. Clippers
1986 Chuck Person, Auburn – Indiana Pacers
1985 Xavier McDaniel, Wichita State – Seattle Supersonics
1984 Sam Perkins, North Carolina – Dallas Mavericks
1983 Byron Scott, Arizona State – San Diego Clippers
1982 Bill Garnett, Wyoming – Dallas Mavericks
1981 Al Wood, North Carolina – Atlanta Hawks
1980 Kelvin Ransey, Ohio State – Chicago Bulls

[Danny Darko]

The 2000's have been brutal but look at the other decades haha

[Danny Darko]

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[ROballer]

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Yeah, but NO would still probably want both.

Ingram, Ball and the pick and that's it. We keep everyone else.

[Danny Darko]

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[TylersLakers]

A complete stroke of luck for a franchise that probably doesn't deserve it.

Trade it for Anthony Davis or Brad Beal.

[Dr Aki]

With the 4th pick, first year salary is 7.0 million dollars.

They means Lonzo (8.7 mil), Ingram (7.3 mil) and 4th pick (7.0 mil), totalling 23.0 mil is sufficient money to get Davis (27.1 mil) and a minor salary dump up to 1.7 mil (Frank Jackson or Christian Wood).

Heck, if Davis wants it, the Lakers can throw in Wagner (2.0 mil) as well and actually give Davis his trade kicker (even though NO technically pays it, they can think of it as paying 4.1 mil for a late FRP Mo Wagner, heck Lakers can send the necessary cash considerations to make it even for NO)

[zimpy27]

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[zimpy27]

With the 4th pick, first year salary is 7.0 million dollars.

They means Lonzo (8.7 mil), Ingram (7.3 mil) and 4th pick (7.0 mil), totalling 23.0 mil is sufficient money to get Davis (27.1 mil) and a minor salary dump up to 1.7 mil (Frank Jackson or Christian Wood).

Heck, if Davis wants it, the Lakers can throw in Wagner (2.0 mil) as well and actually give Davis his trade kicker (even though NO technically pays it, they can think of it as paying 4.1 mil for a late FRP Mo Wagner, heck Lakers can send the necessary cash considerations to make it even for NO)

Yes but if that happens then Lakers only have 27m to throw at Kyrie where his max is 32k.

Only way they get it all is to sign Kyrie first then make the trade for AD a month later after agreeing in principle with NO.

[Dr Aki]

With the 4th pick, first year salary is 7.0 million dollars.

They means Lonzo (8.7 mil), Ingram (7.3 mil) and 4th pick (7.0 mil), totalling 23.0 mil is sufficient money to get Davis (27.1 mil) and a minor salary dump up to 1.7 mil (Frank Jackson or Christian Wood).

Heck, if Davis wants it, the Lakers can throw in Wagner (2.0 mil) as well and actually give Davis his trade kicker (even though NO technically pays it, they can think of it as paying 4.1 mil for a late FRP Mo Wagner, heck Lakers can send the necessary cash considerations to make it even for NO)

Yes but if that happens then Lakers only have 27m to throw at Kyrie where his max is 32k.

No, you sign your max FA first, then operate as an above the cap team.

You only need to wait 1 month after signing your draft pick to trade him

[zimpy27]

With the 4th pick, first year salary is 7.0 million dollars.

They means Lonzo (8.7 mil), Ingram (7.3 mil) and 4th pick (7.0 mil), totalling 23.0 mil is sufficient money to get Davis (27.1 mil) and a minor salary dump up to 1.7 mil (Frank Jackson or Christian Wood).

Heck, if Davis wants it, the Lakers can throw in Wagner (2.0 mil) as well and actually give Davis his trade kicker (even though NO technically pays it, they can think of it as paying 4.1 mil for a late FRP Mo Wagner, heck Lakers can send the necessary cash considerations to make it even for NO)

Yes but if that happens then Lakers only have 27m to throw at Kyrie where his max is 32k.

No, you sign your max FA first, then operate as an above the cap team.

You only need to wait 1 month after signing your draft pick to trade him

That's a tough month though plus you have to get Kyrie to sign without guaranteeing that AD will be there.

[tviper]

With the 4th pick, first year salary is 7.0 million dollars.

They means Lonzo (8.7 mil), Ingram (7.3 mil) and 4th pick (7.0 mil), totalling 23.0 mil is sufficient money to get Davis (27.1 mil) and a minor salary dump up to 1.7 mil (Frank Jackson or Christian Wood).

Heck, if Davis wants it, the Lakers can throw in Wagner (2.0 mil) as well and actually give Davis his trade kicker (even though NO technically pays it, they can think of it as paying 4.1 mil for a late FRP Mo Wagner, heck Lakers can send the necessary cash considerations to make it even for NO)

Yes but if that happens then Lakers only have 27m to throw at Kyrie where his max is 32k.

No, you sign your max FA first, then operate as an above the cap team.

You only need to wait 1 month after signing your draft pick to trade him

How do you operate as an above the cap team if you renounce everyone in order to sign the max FA?