ImageImageImageImageImage

JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks

Moderators: Danny Darko, TyCobb, Kilroy

danfantastk32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 1,966
Joined: Dec 20, 2015
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#61 » by danfantastk32 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 4:40 pm

Danny Darko wrote:
Read on Twitter



solid


Yeah, I like those two gets.
SweetTouch
RealGM
Posts: 20,384
And1: 3,251
Joined: Mar 29, 2010
Location: Fl

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#62 » by SweetTouch » Wed Jul 3, 2024 4:43 pm

Good pick ups

its time to get the band back together
Stop being so disrespectful.
User avatar
Beethoven
General Manager
Posts: 7,720
And1: 4,674
Joined: May 03, 2012
Location: Utopian Dystopia
 

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#63 » by Beethoven » Wed Jul 3, 2024 8:22 pm

I like this
Nate is great. Not sure about Scott but big name though.
We just need to add Rondo, dudley, and handy?
Kobe Bryant forever
GO LAKERS
8-)
I've heard it through the grapevine..NBA gods have already designated Los Angeles LAKERS as NBA Champions in near future. The destiny is real. TRUST ME.
User avatar
Beethoven
General Manager
Posts: 7,720
And1: 4,674
Joined: May 03, 2012
Location: Utopian Dystopia
 

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#64 » by Beethoven » Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:00 pm

They added Greg st Jean as well.
Kobe Bryant forever
GO LAKERS
8-)
I've heard it through the grapevine..NBA gods have already designated Los Angeles LAKERS as NBA Champions in near future. The destiny is real. TRUST ME.
stan francisco
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,846
And1: 1,774
Joined: Oct 20, 2015
 

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#65 » by stan francisco » Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:08 am

Beethoven wrote:They added Greg st Jean as well.


A disciple of Malone, Vogel, Kidd. I’d assume defense is something he knows a bit about.
Since the 1976 merger LAL 11, CHI 6, BOS 6, SAS 5, GSW 4

PG: Luka / Vincent / Bronny
SG: Smart / Reaves / Knecht / Mañon
SF: LaRavia / Rui / Thiero
PF: Bron / Vando / Kleber
C: Ayton / Hayes / Koloko
User avatar
Danny Darko
Forum Mod - Lakers
Forum Mod - Lakers
Posts: 18,676
And1: 6,012
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
         

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#66 » by Danny Darko » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:52 am

Like it

Read on Twitter
Image
danfantastk32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 1,966
Joined: Dec 20, 2015
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#67 » by danfantastk32 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:26 am

We signed Lindsey Harding last night. Don't know much about her. Not a long resume.

Won the D-League....so while it's not much, it's also not nothing. Obviously knows the game, so why not. I guess she was assistant on 6ers when JJ played there.
tamaraw08
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,714
And1: 2,121
Joined: Feb 13, 2019
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#68 » by tamaraw08 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:49 pm

I actually didn't have a lot of complaints about Ham aside from his lack of offensive creativity and failure to play Christie. I mean the team won 47 games without their best perimeter defender and back PG.... I guess AD and Lebron not missing a ton of games have a lot to do with it...
But these coaching staff look formidable. I like Nate's no nonsense approach and I hope he'll be assigned on defense and hold EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE.
Brooks is a fine coach but even a much better human being. Actually lead OKC to their only Finals appearance.
Scott went to UC Irvine and you can't go that University if you are not that smart... Had a so so stint with the Wizards though, I guess that team had, still has a losing mentality .
I am hoping 1 or 2 of the other hires can really help with the development of Lewis, JHS AND Knecht.
I think their biggest challenge would be keeping AD and James healthy and fresh while guiding this team to a respectable seeding because those guys are spending so much energy right now and Lebron is 40 while AD has a history of getting injured after playing too many minutes.
stan francisco
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,846
And1: 1,774
Joined: Oct 20, 2015
 

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#69 » by stan francisco » Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:48 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:We signed Lindsey Harding last night. Don't know much about her. Not a long resume.

Won the D-League....so while it's not much, it's also not nothing. Obviously knows the game, so why not. I guess she was assistant on 6ers when JJ played there.


https://youtu.be/frLZQ6CKlTE?feature=shared

I like it. This is quite the coaching staff. Do we still have Handy or is it an all new group from scratch?
Since the 1976 merger LAL 11, CHI 6, BOS 6, SAS 5, GSW 4

PG: Luka / Vincent / Bronny
SG: Smart / Reaves / Knecht / Mañon
SF: LaRavia / Rui / Thiero
PF: Bron / Vando / Kleber
C: Ayton / Hayes / Koloko
danfantastk32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 1,966
Joined: Dec 20, 2015
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#70 » by danfantastk32 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:38 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:I actually didn't have a lot of complaints about Ham aside from his lack of offensive creativity and failure to play Christie. I mean the team won 47 games without their best perimeter defender and back PG.... I guess AD and Lebron not missing a ton of games have a lot to do with it...
But these coaching staff look formidable. I like Nate's no nonsense approach and I hope he'll be assigned on defense and hold EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE.
Brooks is a fine coach but even a much better human being. Actually lead OKC to their only Finals appearance.
Scott went to UC Irvine and you can't go that University if you are not that smart... Had a so so stint with the Wizards though, I guess that team had, still has a losing mentality .
I am hoping 1 or 2 of the other hires can really help with the development of Lewis, JHS AND Knecht.
I think their biggest challenge would be keeping AD and James healthy and fresh while guiding this team to a respectable seeding because those guys are spending so much energy right now and Lebron is 40 while AD has a history of getting injured after playing too many minutes.


Unfortunately, I feel like much of your sentiment (I'm sure its genuine, and prob correct) gets tossed out every time we spin the coaching carousel. I agree with much of what your saying....it certainly looks good. But....so did Hamm 2 years ago...and Vogel 3 years before that. Vogel coached us to a title.....was suddenly dog-sh** when we got Brick. Hamm was the man with a plan in everyone's eyes right up until that sweep.

Luke Walton went 43 and 2??? something like that when Kerr had his absence. I remember the hype around that guy, and almost everyone here on this board excited as hell that the new "wonder kid" was gonna coach us. We all know what happened with that. Turns out I could have prob coached that GS team to the finals. "Hey Steph, go shoot your crazy shots" ....there....I'm a 50 win coach with that alone. So while all this staff looks good, I've heard this before too many times. This coach has zero experience, and this team is being led by a guy known to kinda do what he thinks is best. I'm curious to see this coach, and his staff.....and the people around here when the adversity hits.

This team squeaked into the playoffs, with AD playing the most games in his career. And now Lebron is a year older. We really didn't get any help in the offseason....although I'm excited to see if Knecht can develop into something good over the next couple years. So I'm just warning people that missing the playoffs is a very real thing.....and there's not a ton coaching can do about that, if your roster is full of flaws/holes. So we'll see where people are on JJ and his crew at the end of the season.
LakersSoul
Head Coach
Posts: 7,100
And1: 4,968
Joined: Jul 03, 2016

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#71 » by LakersSoul » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:37 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:We signed Lindsey Harding last night. Don't know much about her. Not a long resume.

Won the D-League....so while it's not much, it's also not nothing. Obviously knows the game, so why not. I guess she was assistant on 6ers when JJ played there.


Lakers hire Lindsay.

Clippers sign Kevin Porter Jr but Bronny at 55 is the news!

Not Yo Ham Lakers!

The Don and The King!
tamaraw08
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,714
And1: 2,121
Joined: Feb 13, 2019
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#72 » by tamaraw08 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:47 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:I actually didn't have a lot of complaints about Ham aside from his lack of offensive creativity and failure to play Christie. I mean the team won 47 games without their best perimeter defender and back PG.... I guess AD and Lebron not missing a ton of games have a lot to do with it...
But these coaching staff look formidable. I like Nate's no nonsense approach and I hope he'll be assigned on defense and hold EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE.
Brooks is a fine coach but even a much better human being. Actually lead OKC to their only Finals appearance.
Scott went to UC Irvine and you can't go that University if you are not that smart... Had a so so stint with the Wizards though, I guess that team had, still has a losing mentality .
I am hoping 1 or 2 of the other hires can really help with the development of Lewis, JHS AND Knecht.
I think their biggest challenge would be keeping AD and James healthy and fresh while guiding this team to a respectable seeding because those guys are spending so much energy right now and Lebron is 40 while AD has a history of getting injured after playing too many minutes.


Unfortunately, I feel like much of your sentiment (I'm sure its genuine, and prob correct) gets tossed out every time we spin the coaching carousel. I agree with much of what your saying....it certainly looks good. But....so did Hamm 2 years ago...and Vogel 3 years before that. Vogel coached us to a title.....was suddenly dog-sh** when we got Brick. Hamm was the man with a plan in everyone's eyes right up until that sweep.

Luke Walton went 43 and 2??? something like that when Kerr had his absence. I remember the hype around that guy, and almost everyone here on this board excited as hell that the new "wonder kid" was gonna coach us. We all know what happened with that. Turns out I could have prob coached that GS team to the finals. "Hey Steph, go shoot your crazy shots" ....there....I'm a 50 win coach with that alone. So while all this staff looks good, I've heard this before too many times. This coach has zero experience, and this team is being led by a guy known to kinda do what he thinks is best. I'm curious to see this coach, and his staff.....and the people around here when the adversity hits.

This team squeaked into the playoffs, with AD playing the most games in his career. And now Lebron is a year older. We really didn't get any help in the offseason....although I'm excited to see if Knecht can develop into something good over the next couple years. So I'm just warning people that missing the playoffs is a very real thing.....and there's not a ton coaching can do about that, if your roster is full of flaws/holes. So we'll see where people are on JJ and his crew at the end of the season.

I am aware a lot of things have to be almost perfect just to get into be the 5th best team in the West.
I know it's pathetic for some of us who are hopeful that teams like GSW, Clips will take a step back Bec they lost their top 2 players. Nuggets also lost their starting SG who can both defend and shoot the 3 plus their main back up PG.
Call me old and myopic for not wanting a rebuild right now because Lebron will retire eventually and this team would suck big time when it happens. But watching them lose 60 games several years back really traumatized me that I went into some kind of depression.
I am intrigued to know how you felt from 2013-2017
BTW, Going full rebuild doesn't guarantee you acquiring good young players from the draft. GSW drafted Wiseman. Sixers picked Fultz, Okafor, Cavs got Bennet, all top 2 picks.
danfantastk32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 1,966
Joined: Dec 20, 2015
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#73 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:35 am

tamaraw08 wrote:Call me old and myopic for not wanting a rebuild right now because Lebron will retire eventually and this team would suck big time when it happens. But watching them lose 60 games several years back really traumatized me that I went into some kind of depression.


Well....Lebron is going to retire before too long. That's inevitable. So there's a rebuild a'comin. Now you can go into that rebuild with ammunition (picks)....or you can go in with just the shirt on your back. What seems less painful to you?

tamaraw08 wrote:I am intrigued to know how you felt from 2013-2017


It sucked, and it was unnecessary. But the Lakers did some really dumb things leading up to it. Giving Phoenix 3 first round picks for ancient-ass Nash was insane. Does anyone else remember the last game in phoenix the season before, he was laying on the court with the towel stretching his back.....they brought him in the last minute of the game, because that was his last game in phoenix! They weren't resigning him...so why did we allow ourselves to get bent over the table like that??!! That still angers me to this day. Secondly, they completely screwed up their relationship with Gasol. He left the Lakers and took less $$ to goto the bulls. We got nothing for him.
I think it was terrible front office work to let Dwight leave for nothing. Now...we pretty much straight traded Bynum for Dwight, and Bynum never played again...so we technically didn't "lose" that deal....but we sure let an opportunity slip. And lastly....giving Kobe that last contract was nuts. And we gave it to him not even knowing if he'd play again. We'd already given him that 3-year $90 mil (max $$ in those day) extension....so we'd given him his 'pat on the back'. I get keeping Kobe till the bitter end.....Kobe/Magic are my fave players of all time. So I get it 100%. But from a management stance.....it was not the smart move...and when you throw in the stuff above....it crippled the team. We went into our rebuild with NOTHING! Missing picks.

So yes...I remember 2013 - 17 all too well....and that's why I want nothing to do with going into a rebuild without some picks.

tamaraw08 wrote:BTW, Going full rebuild doesn't guarantee you acquiring good young players from the draft. GSW drafted Wiseman. Sixers picked Fultz, Okafor, Cavs got Bennet, all top 2 picks.


Think outside the box man!!! Picks can be picks....but if you have 3 or 4 of them, and you can maybe pick up a star off another team. Or a free agent see's the Lakers with almost no salary, but 3-4 picks...and he thinks to himself "I can go there, and they can now use those picks to trade for X....who'd play great with me" .....I mean sky's the limit with picks. Don't just think of picks as picks, but think of picks as "options". You can use a pick to be part of a 3-way trade...I mean, you can really do alot with them.

You can still screw it up....but at least you have options. And by having extra picks...you can trade them for players, and still use your own draft picks......or trade your picks, and keep the other teams, if that suits your better. Options!
danfantastk32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 1,966
Joined: Dec 20, 2015
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#74 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:01 am

It should also be noted: I don't know about the other 2 picks...but that last pick we gave to the Suns for Nash was protected. You have no idea how lucky we were that Jim Buss was so crap at his job....that he just kept trying to sign super-star after super-star each year (so much for the "treating Kobe good, got us good will in the NBA" theory). Due to his inability to sign anyone, and not trying to slowly build something good....we kept falling into 2nd place in the draft....thus saving our pick. Our rebuild could/should have been even worse. Almost a good thing Jim was a complete dope. An 85% dope woulda actually been worse for us.

Rebuilds take a little time. But look at how quickly OKC bounced back from having PG leave, and essentially having nothing...but a bunch of picks. And to make it harder.....CP3 went there that first year, and took a team of absolute nothing to the playoffs! Ruined their plans entirely! But even with that.....3-4 years, and look at where they are. Same with Celtics. Celtics traded Pierce, Garnett and others to the Nets. Got a grip of picks. Heartless i know.....how'd that work out?

Picks are like smokes in prison....don't underestimate their power.
danfantastk32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 1,966
Joined: Dec 20, 2015
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#75 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:11 am

shai gilgeous-alexander, Danilo Gallinari, and FIVE first round picks (plus two pick-swaps) for Paul George. God bless the Clippers....truly the sh***iest team in sports history.
tamaraw08
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,714
And1: 2,121
Joined: Feb 13, 2019
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#76 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:58 am

danfantastk32 wrote:It should also be noted: I don't know about the other 2 picks...but that last pick we gave to the Suns for Nash was protected. You have no idea how lucky we were that Jim Buss was so crap at his job....that he just kept trying to sign super-star after super-star each year (so much for the "treating Kobe good, got us good will in the NBA" theory). Due to his inability to sign anyone, and not trying to slowly build something good....we kept falling into 2nd place in the draft....thus saving our pick. Our rebuild could/should have been even worse. Almost a good thing Jim was a complete dope. An 85% dope woulda actually been worse for us.

Rebuilds take a little time. But look at how quickly OKC bounced back from having PG leave, and essentially having nothing...but a bunch of picks. And to make it harder.....CP3 went there that first year, and took a team of absolute nothing to the playoffs! Ruined their plans entirely! But even with that.....3-4 years, and look at where they are. Same with Celtics. Celtics traded Pierce, Garnett and others to the Nets. Got a grip of picks. Heartless i know.....how'd that work out?

Picks are like smokes in prison....don't underestimate their power.


Wait, Jim Buss should have "SLOWLY" build something good and yet you said Rebuild take a "LIttle time"? :o

Boston got extremely lucky that the Nets owner was super impatient that he's willing to trade picks for a couple of 37 year olds. How many times have we seen this happened?
OKC got picks and Shai because Kawhi the "Superstar" demanded the Clips to trade picks and SGA who just averaged 11 pts/game.
As they say, it takes 2 to tango. You have to find an impatient irrational owner to get lucky too.
Or you also get a diamond in a rough player like SGA (11pts/game) bec a guy like Kawhi wants a player who just averaged 28pts/game.
danfantastk32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 1,966
Joined: Dec 20, 2015
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#77 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:30 am

tamaraw08 wrote: Wait, Jim Buss should have "SLOWLY" build something good and yet you said Rebuild take a "LIttle time"? :o


No....Jim should have been trying to slowly build something ...read it again.

If your gonna settle for some simple "gotcha" stuff....at least get it right. Jim Buss tried every year to sign a super-star....instead of just committing to the rebuild, and doing it right. But you knew that.....so why the false interpretation of what I very clearly wrote? Be better than that...come on.
danfantastk32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 1,966
Joined: Dec 20, 2015
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#78 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:58 am

tamaraw08 wrote:Boston got extremely lucky that the Nets owner was super impatient that he's willing to trade picks for a couple of 37 year olds. How many times have we seen this happened?
OKC got picks and Shai because Kawhi the "Superstar" demanded the Clips to trade picks and SGA who just averaged 11 pts/game.
As they say, it takes 2 to tango. You have to find an impatient irrational owner to get lucky too.
Or you also get a diamond in a rough player like SGA (11pts/game) bec a guy like Kawhi wants a player who just averaged 28pts/game.


Boston prob got some luck along the way.....but overall, they played it smart. They broke up a team that was once championship material...but had run it course. We aughta take a page from them.

And I'm sorry...but it doesn't take an impatient, irrational owner. Cavs got Donovan Mitchell for couple players, 3 first round picks, and 2 pick-swaps. Knicks just did their trade..and gave 3-4 first round picks. T-Wolves gave 4 first round picks, a pick swap, and couple guys for Gobert. The Nets traded Durant to the Suns for Mikal Bridges (that gift just kept on giving, didn't it?) Cam Johnson....4 First round picks, and a pick-swap. Portland traded Lillard, and got Deandre Ayton, couple other guys, a first round pick, and 2 swaps....prob the weakest trade. I mean...look at what we traded to get AD in the first place: Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart and three first-round picks. This isn't "pie in the sky" stuff here....this is how it's done.

Plenty of examples. There's no reason at all to think we'd get less than 4 picks for AD (or some sort of player/pick combo).
tamaraw08
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,714
And1: 2,121
Joined: Feb 13, 2019
     

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#79 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:55 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:Boston got extremely lucky that the Nets owner was super impatient that he's willing to trade picks for a couple of 37 year olds. How many times have we seen this happened?
OKC got picks and Shai because Kawhi the "Superstar" demanded the Clips to trade picks and SGA who just averaged 11 pts/game.
As they say, it takes 2 to tango. You have to find an impatient irrational owner to get lucky too.
Or you also get a diamond in a rough player like SGA (11pts/game) bec a guy like Kawhi wants a player who just averaged 28pts/game.


Boston prob got some luck along the way.....but overall, they played it smart. They broke up a team that was once championship material...but had run it course. We aughta take a page from them.

And I'm sorry...but it doesn't take an impatient, irrational owner. Cavs got Donovan Mitchell for couple players, 3 first round picks, and 2 pick-swaps. Knicks just did their trade..and gave 3-4 first round picks. T-Wolves gave 4 first round picks, a pick swap, and couple guys for Gobert. The Nets traded Durant to the Suns for Mikal Bridges (that gift just kept on giving, didn't it?) Cam Johnson....4 First round picks, and a pick-swap. Portland traded Lillard, and got Deandre Ayton, couple other guys, a first round pick, and 2 swaps....prob the weakest trade. I mean...look at what we traded to get AD in the first place: Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart and three first-round picks. This isn't "pie in the sky" stuff here....this is how it's done.

Plenty of examples. There's no reason at all to think we'd get less than 4 picks for AD (or some sort of player/pick combo).


And you also misunderstood me because I was referring to Boston being able to dump their two 37-yr olds for many picks.
Of course YOUNG ENOUGH assets would fetch teams many picks including the 30 year old Davis but like I said, I am old and myopic and I don't know if I can withstand another rebuild which by the way I firmly believe will take at least 3 years probably more.
That's at least 3 MISERABLE YEARS for fanatics like me who would have to see them lose 60+ games= 60 VERY depressing nights.
But yes, I also get it, you don't want them to give up picks because it would surely prolonged that rebuild... unless they get another superstar...ESPN radio host and Lakers play by play guy John Ireland kept saying we don't know which superstar might just demand a trade. AD, Kawhi, Lillard etc did it. Jrue Holiday all of a sudden landed on Boston's lap and became a very valuable piece for them.
LakersSoul
Head Coach
Posts: 7,100
And1: 4,968
Joined: Jul 03, 2016

Re: JJ Reddick new lakers coach UPDATE: McMillan & Brooks 

Post#80 » by LakersSoul » Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:55 am

danfantastk32 wrote:shai gilgeous-alexander, Danilo Gallinari, and FIVE first round picks (plus two pick-swaps) for Paul George. God bless the Clippers....truly the sh***iest team in sports history.


Clippers traded 2FRPs, 2 SRPs and pick swap for Harden and helped 76ers open up a max player spot to add anyone they wanted, lol. Good luck!! As if any all-stars would join 76ers on a max deal.

God bless the Clippers

Not Yo Ham Lakers!

The Don and The King!

Return to Los Angeles Lakers