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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#601 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:01 pm

Kilroy wrote:Trez and Schroder for Beal...

Or KCP/Kuz/Harrell, for Siakam

Or KCP and Harrell for Oladipo

Or KCP/Trez/Kuz for Brogdon...

IDK... Just messing around, although if we get Drummond, we've got a bunch of guys we aren't going to retain next year anyway, so we might as well move them for something we really need.

If we get Drummond, we aren't likely to keep Harrell... And if we trade Harrell for a position of need, it'll be for either a Wing or a combo guard, so we won't need either Schroder, KCP or Kuz... So if there's something out there, we might as well go for it now rather than later... Although I think most of those teams are looking for picks...


I only trade key players for Beal bec he is the only legit star I know who will be a key piece not just for this year but for the next few years...ok maybe Siakam but I only give KCP and fillers for him.
Not a few fans here are getting very antsy and are frustrated. Sure Kuzma has been underwhelming without Lebron but James will eventually comeback. For the season he is shooting 37% from 3.
Harrell is giving this team 15 points at less than 10 attempts, PER OF 23.5 shooting 64% from the field.
Schroder is scoring 15 pts/game at 12 shots, with a great FT rate of 35.5, proving very good on the ball defense etc.
KCP has been struggling shooting the ball but still shooting 40% from 3pt area for the SEASON!! shot 38% from there last playoffs!!
Caruso provides great defense, can cover and defend 3 positions, shoots 39% from 3 this SEASON, HAS A GREAT +/- stats with Lebron and key players like he is a + 26 with Schroder and Davis, +19 with Harrell and Schroder etc.
yes, all of them have weaknesses but it's not like there players are trash.
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#602 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:32 pm

Too many trades, too many moves, and we fly dangerous going into battle with untested weapons. Playoffs are trust and cohesion. Remember, its the Horry's, shaws, dfish, ty lues that play their major part in winning
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#603 » by scoobs07 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:43 pm

Harrell and KCP to Charlotte for Rozier.
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#604 » by Beethoven » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:54 pm

No to Harrell. Keep him.
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#605 » by kblo247 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:00 pm

Kilroy wrote:Trez and Schroder for Beal...

Or KCP/Kuz/Harrell, for Siakam

Or KCP and Harrell for Oladipo

Or KCP/Trez/Kuz for Brogdon...

IDK... Just messing around, although if we get Drummond, we've got a bunch of guys we aren't going to retain next year anyway, so we might as well move them for something we really need.

If we get Drummond, we aren't likely to keep Harrell... And if we trade Harrell for a position of need, it'll be for either a Wing or a combo guard, so we won't need either Schroder, KCP or Kuz... So if there's something out there, we might as well go for it now rather than later... Although I think most of those teams are looking for picks...

Frank would get COY if he can make Beal even decent at defense. People talk about Harden but Beal is beyond awful at defense. He doesn’t try to defend and he doesn’t try to do anything but score.
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#606 » by kblo247 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:02 pm

scoobs07 wrote:Harrell and KCP to Charlotte for Rozier.

Why would Charlotte do that? They tried to pay him last year. In fact that’s who the clippers wanted to sign and trade him for. He told Charlotte **** their money so he’s not staying there and then they are down Rozier who Ball has great chemistry with on and off the court. Nba tv did a piece about Ball being Rozier rookie and them sticking together
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#607 » by kblo247 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:06 pm

iamworthy wrote:If we get Drummond that probably means Rob is working the phones trying to trade Harrell and KCP.

It also means AD got you Drummond because they are tight. Then the question becomes how the hell you keep him. I would love to have him though
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#608 » by zimpy27 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:07 pm

If Drummond come to the Lakers then that makes Harrell useless.

C position in playoffs: Davis 16 minutes, Drummond 24 minutes, Gasol 8 minutes.

Could see Harrell and KCP being traded for an upgraded SG: Brogdon, Rozier, Powell
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#609 » by Kilroy » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:09 pm

slifersd wrote:I don't think THT is off the table at all for discussion purposes, nor should he be. He is a nice young player with upside. We all know that. But if giving him up can land us someone higher caliber, like a Myles Turner, then I don't see why we wouldn't at least consider it.


But THT for Myles Turner isn't even a remote option.... It's THT as FILLER for Myles turner with either Harrell or Schroder... And porbably Kuzma... And why would we trade for Myles Turner when we're getting Drummond after his buy-out? Turner is essentially off the table...

But even if he wasn't, you just don't throw a player like THT in as filler for that trade... Turner isn't good enough for that. he's all blocks, and essentially nothing else... We need some more rim protection and athleticism down low, but we don't need to gut our roster for a player like Myles Turner.
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#610 » by Kilroy » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:10 pm

zimpy27 wrote:If Drummond come to the Lakers then that makes Harrell useless.

C position in playoffs: Davis 16 minutes, Drummond 24 minutes, Gasol 8 minutes.

Could see Harrell and KCP being traded for an upgraded SG: Brogdon, Rozier, Powell


Yeah, and I think Kuz is gone too...
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Post#611 » by kblo247 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:17 pm

Kilroy wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:If Drummond come to the Lakers then that makes Harrell useless.

C position in playoffs: Davis 16 minutes, Drummond 24 minutes, Gasol 8 minutes.

Could see Harrell and KCP being traded for an upgraded SG: Brogdon, Rozier, Powell


Yeah, and I think Kuz is gone too...


Kuz is essentially your Danny Green now. I can see them sliding him down. If you watched the third quarter of the suns game Frank basically had him advance the ball when Caruso was out there which is why he had the six assists. He’s transitioning to the wing. Yeah he’s back at the 4 because well we have no bodies anymore but he’s transitioned to the wing this year.

The lakers aren’t trading for Powell when he said he’s seeking 20mil per year this summer. And he’s already won a ring so that’s not something important compared to money

The Hornets would be stupid trading Rozier. It would be a very Mitch move to piss off Ball, but you would hope he’s learned something about personal and people skills than to trade Balls best friend and who he has chemistry with especially for a player who said I don’t want to play for you.

Now Brogdon is something to look at. But if we talking to Indy **** Brogdon and Myles. I want Sabonis and his skillset next to AD and Bron. It’s like pulling a young Marc and Pau hybrid out and dropping him with those two.

I wouldn’t be shocked if we moved Harrell, but I do think Caruso will be used as the sweetener. I mean he’s going to get paid and I think it’s go be the delladova like over pay this summer
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#612 » by zimpy27 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:21 pm

Kilroy wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:If Drummond come to the Lakers then that makes Harrell useless.

C position in playoffs: Davis 16 minutes, Drummond 24 minutes, Gasol 8 minutes.

Could see Harrell and KCP being traded for an upgraded SG: Brogdon, Rozier, Powell


Yeah, and I think Kuz is gone too...


Hard to trade Kuz with hard cap though.

Lakers would have to trade Kuz with KCP and Harrell and take back a $28m package of players
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#613 » by kblo247 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:24 pm

I think the name that people aren’t talking about in Dennis is the one who could be moved. They wouldn’t have to negotiate with anyone if they trade him for a guard like Brogdon who is locked in.

I don’t want VO because he can never stay healthy
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#614 » by zimpy27 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:28 pm

kblo247 wrote:I think the name that people aren’t talking about in Dennis is the one who could be moved. They wouldn’t have to negotiate with anyone if they trade him for a guard like Brogdon who is locked in.

I don’t want VO because he can never stay healthy


Yeah I'd prefer to see Dennis moved over KCP tbh. Not liking his poor 3 shooting. Everything else is great but 3 shooting is very important to winning in the NBA
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#615 » by scoobs07 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:53 pm

kblo247 wrote:I think the name that people aren’t talking about in Dennis is the one who could be moved. They wouldn’t have to negotiate with anyone if they trade him for a guard like Brogdon who is locked in.

I don’t want VO because he can never stay healthy


I agree with this. The way I see it is, if you put a stretch 5 next to AD, maybe you could get away with having one less below-average three-point shooter on the floor, such as Dennis. But, if you are going to go with somebody like Drummond at the 5, then it would be imperative to have as many above-average three-point shooters as possible, because the lanes would be clogged with AD, LBJ, Drummond, and when THT comes into the game. This is why I feel the Lakers would be much better served with somebody like Rozier at the 1, instead of Dennis.
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#616 » by kblo247 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:05 am

scoobs07 wrote:
kblo247 wrote:I think the name that people aren’t talking about in Dennis is the one who could be moved. They wouldn’t have to negotiate with anyone if they trade him for a guard like Brogdon who is locked in.

I don’t want VO because he can never stay healthy


I agree with this. The way I see it is, if you put a stretch 5 next to AD, maybe you could get away with having one less below-average three-point shooter on the floor, such as Dennis. But, if you are going to go with somebody like Drummond at the 5, then it would be imperative to have as many above-average three-point shooters as possible, because the lanes would be clogged with AD, LBJ, Drummond, and when THT comes into the game. This is why I feel the Lakers would be much better served with somebody like Rozier at the 1, instead of Dennis.


I mean Brogdon was signed to play with VO not Levert. The issue they run into is Dennis goes to them but short of Wes, nothing else really works coming back for them because they got Warren and Lamb. They don’t need Caruso when they have TJ McConell. They don’t need Marc either.

I think the lack of extension and injuries make him possible to traded. Let’s just say that no trade is made and Dennis keeps this team in the 5th spot without Bron and AD ... he’s getting and demanding a Max from them because he’s got leverage of can’t be replaced money wise, record without AD, and keeping them relevant ... I don’t think they want Dennis to have them by the balls either this summer
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#617 » by scoobs07 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:28 am

kblo247 wrote:
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kblo247 wrote:I think the name that people aren’t talking about in Dennis is the one who could be moved. They wouldn’t have to negotiate with anyone if they trade him for a guard like Brogdon who is locked in.

I don’t want VO because he can never stay healthy


I agree with this. The way I see it is, if you put a stretch 5 next to AD, maybe you could get away with having one less below-average three-point shooter on the floor, such as Dennis. But, if you are going to go with somebody like Drummond at the 5, then it would be imperative to have as many above-average three-point shooters as possible, because the lanes would be clogged with AD, LBJ, Drummond, and when THT comes into the game. This is why I feel the Lakers would be much better served with somebody like Rozier at the 1, instead of Dennis.


I mean Brogdon was signed to play with VO not Levert. The issue they run into is Dennis goes to them but short of Wes, nothing else really works coming back for them because they got Warren and Lamb. They don’t need Caruso when they have TJ McConell. They don’t need Marc either.

I think the lack of extension and injuries make him possible to traded. Let’s just say that no trade is made and Dennis keeps this team in the 5th spot without Bron and AD ... he’s getting and demanding a Max from them because he’s got leverage of can’t be replaced money wise, record without AD, and keeping them relevant ... I don’t think they want Dennis to have them by the balls either this summer

Yeah, I agree. He could be a sleeper in a trade.
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Re: Official trade thread 20-21 edition 

Post#618 » by iamworthy » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:51 am

How on earth is KCP shooting 40% from 3pt land.
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Post#619 » by kblo247 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:21 am

iamworthy wrote:How on earth is KCP shooting 40% from 3pt land.

Because his shot attempts are actually down on the year. He’s at a career low in field goal attempts per game. Guy takes 6 shots a night, 4 of them being 3s.

For reference he took 9 shots a night in the playoffs with 6 being threes every game.

The easiest way I can describe things is this ... KCP is at a career low in shot attempts, Marc is at a career low in shot attempts, Markieff is at a career low, and Kuz is at a career low as well ... You might want to look at Dennis as opposed to Rondo who didn’t look to score and just got them all shots


KCP has been accurate from the 3pt line and free throw line it’s just that the bad stands out but we ignore he’s told you getting a handful of shots now, and you aren’t getting your plays called for you like the wheel route to get you the ball because Trez and Dennis eat or THT is going to iso. There’s a very different dynamic with those 3 on the team. Where Kuz and KCP are last year there are now guys eating before them. And you can add in that Wes has set shots called for him too which used to belong to KCP. The easiest solution might be to turn 2-3 guys into 1 guy because I’m telling you adding Drummond to 11 guys when everyone whose won before are already sacrificing numbers, time, shots ain’t easy
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Post#620 » by Slava » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:37 am

If Atlanta is still seeking a defensive guard, may be KCP and Caruso for Bogdanovic makes sense. This team needs some offense to survive.
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