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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#601 » by DanishLakerFan » Tue Nov 1, 2022 10:34 am

Spurs:
Westbrook + picks for Poeltl, Collins, J-Rich and McBuckets

Poeltl is a legit great defensive 5. Collins and J-Rich are solid defensively. McBuckets cant defend at all. Collins, J-Rich and McBuckets are currently hitting a combined 6 3s per game at 46%. Collins and Poeltl would work in a lot of different lineups in the frontcourt, and we'd be able to keep the back-court intact.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#602 » by zuju » Tue Nov 1, 2022 12:41 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
I disagree, actually. Davis is better at the 4 on both ends of the floor and the chance the Lakers have at being good this season depend on Lebron and AD being at their best. As for Buddy i think you can roll with him alongside either Pat Bev or Reaves.

I do agree that it would be ideal to get some wing depth as well, but both Troy Brown Jr and JTA has looked solid.

Also, Lakers are close to a top 5 defense so far. By replacing Westbrook with Myles and Buddy is only going to improve on that.


Pre-injury Davis was but not this one.

I don't think it's as simple as improving defense that way. The truth is that Lakers need 3+D wings more than anything else.

GTJ, Boucher, Gordon would be the preferred outcome IMO..

Lakers get GTJ, Boucher, Gordon
Pacers get Westbrook, Birch, LAL27FRP, LAL29FRP
Raptors get Turner, Hield
Rockets get $20m TPE


I disagree on Turner.
W/ regards to deals i'd say the Charlotte is an ideal trade partner then.
Hayward-Westbrook are equally bad contracts, but if you're taking on Hayward you need contracts that are locked in long-term and/or bird rights. Rozier would be great and he's somewhat neutral on his current deal and you could probably get a guy like Plumlee for depth at the 5 as well as PJ Washington, although he'd cost a pick.

So:
Hayward, Rozier, Plumlee, Washington for Westbrook, Jones, Nunn and 2 FRPs.


Hayward and Washington are both natural fit to AD and Bron.

Doesn't have a view on Rozier. If we were willing to give Schroder a 20+M/yr deal, Rozier's contract is not bad at all. Problem is if we really need him or we further trade him for other players of our needs.

A rotation of Rozier, Hayward, James, AD and Plumlee should be quite competitive with our bench mob being Schroder, Walker, Brown, Washington and Jones / Bryant. Still too much guards with Reavees and Bev got little playing time.

If we can trade 1 FRP and 1 SRP instead of 2FRP, I'd pull the trigger.

As for Turner, he is great and can work in this line up. Hield is the problem. We need someone who can shoot AND defend, preferably with some playmaking/ passing ability. Hield has only got shooting. We had shootings last year. Why don't you keep any of them on a much cheaper price (i.e. vet min) without having to sacrifice anything.

Again, patient is key and opportunities will come with time.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#603 » by loveshaq786 » Tue Nov 1, 2022 1:06 pm

wco81 wrote:Wow you gonna get KD and Mathurin for WB, whom you want to get rid of anyways?


you missed Anthony freaking Davis?
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#604 » by DanishLakerFan » Tue Nov 1, 2022 1:36 pm

zuju wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Pre-injury Davis was but not this one.

I don't think it's as simple as improving defense that way. The truth is that Lakers need 3+D wings more than anything else.

GTJ, Boucher, Gordon would be the preferred outcome IMO..

Lakers get GTJ, Boucher, Gordon
Pacers get Westbrook, Birch, LAL27FRP, LAL29FRP
Raptors get Turner, Hield
Rockets get $20m TPE


I disagree on Turner.
W/ regards to deals i'd say the Charlotte is an ideal trade partner then.
Hayward-Westbrook are equally bad contracts, but if you're taking on Hayward you need contracts that are locked in long-term and/or bird rights. Rozier would be great and he's somewhat neutral on his current deal and you could probably get a guy like Plumlee for depth at the 5 as well as PJ Washington, although he'd cost a pick.

So:
Hayward, Rozier, Plumlee, Washington for Westbrook, Jones, Nunn and 2 FRPs.


Hayward and Washington are both natural fit to AD and Bron.

Doesn't have a view on Rozier. If we were willing to give Schroder a 20+M/yr deal, Rozier's contract is not bad at all. Problem is if we really need him or we further trade him for other players of our needs.

A rotation of Rozier, Hayward, James, AD and Plumlee should be quite competitive with our bench mob being Schroder, Walker, Brown, Washington and Jones / Bryant. Still too much guards with Reavees and Bev got little playing time.

If we can trade 1 FRP and 1 SRP instead of 2FRP, I'd pull the trigger.

As for Turner, he is great and can work in this line up. Hield is the problem. We need someone who can shoot AND defend, preferably with some playmaking/ passing ability. Hield has only got shooting. We had shootings last year. Why don't you keep any of them on a much cheaper price (i.e. vet min) without having to sacrifice anything.

Again, patient is key and opportunities will come with time.


Rozier is really good. Much better defensively than Schroeder and he's hit 3 3s at about 40% the past four years.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#605 » by zuju » Tue Nov 1, 2022 2:12 pm

DanishLakerFan wrote:
zuju wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
I disagree on Turner.
W/ regards to deals i'd say the Charlotte is an ideal trade partner then.
Hayward-Westbrook are equally bad contracts, but if you're taking on Hayward you need contracts that are locked in long-term and/or bird rights. Rozier would be great and he's somewhat neutral on his current deal and you could probably get a guy like Plumlee for depth at the 5 as well as PJ Washington, although he'd cost a pick.

So:
Hayward, Rozier, Plumlee, Washington for Westbrook, Jones, Nunn and 2 FRPs.


Hayward and Washington are both natural fit to AD and Bron.

Doesn't have a view on Rozier. If we were willing to give Schroder a 20+M/yr deal, Rozier's contract is not bad at all. Problem is if we really need him or we further trade him for other players of our needs.

A rotation of Rozier, Hayward, James, AD and Plumlee should be quite competitive with our bench mob being Schroder, Walker, Brown, Washington and Jones / Bryant. Still too much guards with Reavees and Bev got little playing time.

If we can trade 1 FRP and 1 SRP instead of 2FRP, I'd pull the trigger.

As for Turner, he is great and can work in this line up. Hield is the problem. We need someone who can shoot AND defend, preferably with some playmaking/ passing ability. Hield has only got shooting. We had shootings last year. Why don't you keep any of them on a much cheaper price (i.e. vet min) without having to sacrifice anything.

Again, patient is key and opportunities will come with time.


Rozier is really good. Much better defensively than Schroeder and he's hit 3 3s at about 40% the past four years.


How can you solve the logjam at the guard position?

Between Pat Bev, Schroder, Reavees and walker, who will see little to no minutes?

Or all 3 centers will not start and Walker be put in the starting line up ?
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#606 » by DanishLakerFan » Tue Nov 1, 2022 3:56 pm

zuju wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
zuju wrote:
Hayward and Washington are both natural fit to AD and Bron.

Doesn't have a view on Rozier. If we were willing to give Schroder a 20+M/yr deal, Rozier's contract is not bad at all. Problem is if we really need him or we further trade him for other players of our needs.

A rotation of Rozier, Hayward, James, AD and Plumlee should be quite competitive with our bench mob being Schroder, Walker, Brown, Washington and Jones / Bryant. Still too much guards with Reavees and Bev got little playing time.

If we can trade 1 FRP and 1 SRP instead of 2FRP, I'd pull the trigger.

As for Turner, he is great and can work in this line up. Hield is the problem. We need someone who can shoot AND defend, preferably with some playmaking/ passing ability. Hield has only got shooting. We had shootings last year. Why don't you keep any of them on a much cheaper price (i.e. vet min) without having to sacrifice anything.

Again, patient is key and opportunities will come with time.


Rozier is really good. Much better defensively than Schroeder and he's hit 3 3s at about 40% the past four years.


How can you solve the logjam at the guard position?

Between Pat Bev, Schroder, Reavees and walker, who will see little to no minutes?

Or all 3 centers will not start and Walker be put in the starting line up ?


To me it's about getting talent on the team that enable AD and Lebron to succeed. Getting a guy like Rozier as part of a trade could result in a logjam, but with Beverley and Reaves being able to play the 3 a bit i dont think it's going to matter.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#607 » by Kilroy » Tue Nov 1, 2022 4:24 pm

We got all we're ever going to get out of AD/LeBron... If you can't get rid of LeBron, you have to dump AD for assets and picks if possible... That's if you care about the future of the franchise, however.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#608 » by mhd » Tue Nov 1, 2022 9:26 pm

Wizards fan here. Would you guys do Westbrook+Reeves+2027 unprotected first for Beal? All of our board hated the Beal extension and the hamstringing it caused (we all want to tank). Beal would have to agree to it.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#609 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Tue Nov 1, 2022 11:31 pm

mhd wrote:Wizards fan here. Would you guys do Westbrook+Reeves+2027 unprotected first for Beal? All of our board hated the Beal extension and the hamstringing it caused (we all want to tank). Beal would have to agree to it.


Take Reaves out of the equation and we're good.
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Post#610 » by LAKESHOW » Wed Nov 2, 2022 12:33 am

Beal is washed
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#611 » by KuzControl » Wed Nov 2, 2022 4:53 am

Yeah I'm a fan of the CHA-LAL deal. I do think we'd have to give up the two unprotected picks, Christie and maybe some 2nds, but a haul of Rozier (genuine 3rd scoring option)-Hayward (taller productive wing)-PJ (stretch 4/small-ball 5)-Plumlee (backup big) would be elite for us. I don't care about taking on future salary at this point, we need guys that are locked in. 30mil in cap space might get us a GTJ and a Will Barton-type - that's it

Hell, I'd even do Rozier/Hayward/Plumlee for Westbrook/Jones/Christie and one first. Still gives us two pieces that we sorely need, and another semi-useful one. You'd then need to go looking for a backup stretch 4 or 5 with Beverley/Nunn and some 2nds, though
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#612 » by DanishLakerFan » Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:03 am

mhd wrote:Wizards fan here. Would you guys do Westbrook+Reeves+2027 unprotected first for Beal? All of our board hated the Beal extension and the hamstringing it caused (we all want to tank). Beal would have to agree to it.


I'm sure the Lakers' front office would do it in a heartbeat because they're obsessed with big names. And Beal for sure is a big name.

Personally, i think it could make some sense for both teams depending on how the deal looks. I dont really see a path for the Wizards to contend right now, so maybe it is time to cut your losses and rebuild.

The question for LA is whether there are any assets left to trade and if there is a path to rounding out the team? If it's Westy+1 FRP then LA pretty much have to do it imo. Then use Nunn+FRP+whatevs to round out team. Or include Kuz somehow.

It seems insane to be talking about Beal like that, but he's on the books for 110M the two years after Lebron and AD's contracts are up. That's kinda scary.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#613 » by The Hypnotoad » Wed Nov 2, 2022 10:04 pm

Hypothetically, next offseason, what additional future first round draft picks become available to trade along with the two they currently have available to trade? Would it be 2030, 2031?
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#614 » by tamaraw08 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:05 am

Im predicting Russ goes home to OKC, plus 2 picks for SGA and fillers. :wink:
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#615 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 5:44 am

Lakers will end up keeping Russ now ...
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#616 » by Beethoven » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:59 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Lakers will end up keeping Russ now ...

His stock is steadily rising they see the impact he has as a benchwarmer
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#617 » by winforlose » Fri Nov 4, 2022 4:35 am

Wolves fan with a question. As radioactive as Kyrie is, would you guys still do the RW and 2 firsts and gamble that you could teach him to shut up? On the court he is still elite, but everywhere else you just cannot handle him.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#618 » by DanishLakerFan » Fri Nov 4, 2022 5:25 am

winforlose wrote:Wolves fan with a question. As radioactive as Kyrie is, would you guys still do the RW and 2 firsts and gamble that you could teach him to shut up? On the court he is still elite, but everywhere else you just cannot handle him.


I sure hope not. Kyrie is unable to shut up. Racism and antisemitism isnt acceptable and while i will give him half a pass because he's a naive head case with mental issues I don't see him changing. Nor do I think his next contract is something to be excited about.

What team over the past 5 years had a good experience with Kyrie?
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#619 » by MAMBAEMD » Fri Nov 4, 2022 5:54 am

winforlose wrote:Wolves fan with a question. As radioactive as Kyrie is, would you guys still do the RW and 2 firsts and gamble that you could teach him to shut up? On the court he is still elite, but everywhere else you just cannot handle him.


Hell no.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#620 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Nov 4, 2022 2:51 pm

Beethoven wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Lakers will end up keeping Russ now ...

His stock is steadily rising they see the impact he has as a benchwarmer


A 47 Million Dollar bench guy who plays like 24 mins. Yeah, Lakers are contenders now because they are keeping him. :roll:

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