Official Transaction Ideas thread

KingLakers · Post #601 » by **KingLakers** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:45 am

After reading that article it feels the Lakers the Lakers may really try to move up in the draft and try to get a Bledsoe, Bradley, or Armon Johnson I cant imagine them going into a season with just Fisher and Blake or Watson or Ridnour. I didn't get the vet big man they will supposedly be looking for its just seems like a waste of a roster spot.

Sundov · Post #602 » by **Sundov** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:02 am

...Gilbert Arenas.

How about vujacic, walton and odom for arenas and mike miller? Derek Fisher is clutch, but you only really need him for 15mins a game, anything more than that and he becomes a liability. The lakers could still sign fisher for a 2mil per year contract and then give the remaining MLE to a combo forward like hakim warrick and other bit players

pg - arenas/fisher
sg - kobe/brown
sf - artest/miller
pf - gasol/warrick
c - bynum/powell

This gives the lakers much more depth, and Arenas at the very least can knock down the open three. He has a big ego, but he is a huge Kobe fan so I'm thinking he will do whatever he can to win just like artest did this season.

The_Commish · Post #603 » by **The_Commish** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:45 am

I still believe Gilbert is one of the best players in the NBA today, so I say yes, but they must ask every player if they are willing to give away some more shots. I think Arenas could take over the scoring load all season, and have Kobe, Pau, Ron, and Andrew rested for the big games.

Ronathinyo · Post #604 » by **Ronathinyo** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:51 am

i just dont see us being able to move Walton, and i doubt we ever trade Odom

doozyj · Post #605 » by **doozyj** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:28 am

Not that it would happen but I will say no to Arenas, he will probably end up shooting Bynum in the foot or something.

The Skyhook · Post #606 » by **The Skyhook** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:17 pm

Ronathinyo wrote:http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-whats-next-20100619,0,4088566.story

looks like Farmar's gonna walk

This is also from the article.

The Lakers will look at free-agent point guards Steve Blake, Earl Watson and Luke Ridnour, the executive added.

But whoever signs with the Lakers will have to take a pay cut because they don't plan on using the mid-level exception to sign a player. They will be looking to sign an experienced big man for the veteran's minimum, which will be as much as $1.325 million for a player with 10 years or more of experience.

Why won't they be using the MLE? That doesn't make sense to me. I was really hoping they would go after a guy like Redick/Korver/Miller to help the bench. I'm starting to feel like this offseason isn't going to be so great.

The Skyhook · Post #607 » by **The Skyhook** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:04 pm

So many speculations about what the Lakers are going to do. One article says one thing another says something else. I think this offseason is going to be crucial to the Lakers winning another championship. This current roster can do it but if you think about it that will be 4 NBA FInals in a row. My biggest concern is the wear and tear on the core. This is why I think it is so important to make some good moves and load up on depth. I'm not talking about guys like Luke Walton, DJ, Ammo, and Josh who just rotted away on the bench last season. As a fan I won't be satisfied with something like just the addition of Steve Blake. They need to go bigger than that.

Should Shannon Brown opt out of his current contract and sign with another team, or should Jordan Farmar leave L.A. for a higher salary that the Lakers will certainly not match, then the Lakers will explore signing unrestricted free agent guards Luke Ridnour or Raymond Felton.

In addition to guard depth, the Lakers are also considering bolstering the wing depth of the bench unit. The Lakers will not maintain small forward Adam Morrison, and do not see Slovenian guard Sasha Vujacic as an important role player once his contract ends in 2011. The Lakers will inquire about the availability of free agent shooters Kyle Korver or Mike Miller.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4084 ... ade-roster

KingLakers · Post #608 » by **KingLakers** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:25 pm

doozyj I dont think that article is saying their not going to use the whole MLE I think they'll us half of it at least they have to because they can't really expect any of those guys even Blake and Ridnour to take minimum deals. This is why I keep saying Will Bynum maybe the Lakers best option next season at PG even though he is a RFA that is about how much he will cost half the MLE.

Post #609 » by **Kilroy** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:38 pm

Bosh idea...

I'm not a big Bynum for Bosh fan, but a thought came to me while I was trying to catch up on my sleep after we won BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!!!

Bynum+ for Bosh+ (Hopefully a solid combo gaurd comes back)
Sign Shaq for as little as possible...

I don't know if anyone has come up with this scenario because I haven't been paying attention because I think Bynum fits better than Bosh. So I'm sorry if this is redundant.

This gets us a talented PF to play next to Gasol... These two can tag team all but the biggest Centers... Yao, Bynum and Oden, probably and if Howard and the Lopez's improve footwork a bit would be a bit much to handle...

But thats when Shaq comes in.

Bynum showed me a bunch this post season, and if there's anyway to keep him and keep him healthy, I think we need to do that, but if Bosh is the better option for whatever reason, I think we need to get Shaq on the phone... And Kobe...

I'm not crazy about bringing Shaq back to this team but if we get Bosh and if Kobe and Shaq are just messing with each other... I think it could be a very successful lineup.

Lots of IFs... Longshot... Highly unlikely... But it's the only way getting Bosh makes sens to me.

Post #610 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:45 pm

with the lakers winning the title i think the idea that the lakers trade bynum for bosh is dead. you can justify such a drastic move for more expensive player if one, you are coming off losing the title, and two you are pushing your 10mil coach out. with the lakers winning the title and the pressure to resign phil on hand, i seriously doubt the lakers make such a big investment that is bosh's contract.

Post #611 » by **Slava** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:11 pm

Making an investment in Bosh means that we are looking at life after Kobe and trying to make a smooth transition when we get that far.

I wouldn't trade Bynum though, just get him fixed up and running when next season comes along. His heath has actually gotten better with each passing season.

fongie24 · Post #612 » by **fongie24** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:22 pm

Kilroy wrote:Bosh idea...

I'm not a big Bynum for Bosh fan, but a thought came to me while I was trying to catch up on my sleep after we won BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!!!

Bynum+ for Bosh+ (Hopefully a solid combo gaurd comes back)
Sign Shaq for as little as possible...

I don't know if anyone has come up with this scenario because I haven't been paying attention because I think Bynum fits better than Bosh. So I'm sorry if this is redundant.

This gets us a talented PF to play next to Gasol... These two can tag team all but the biggest Centers... Yao, Bynum and Oden, probably and if Howard and the Lopez's improve footwork a bit would be a bit much to handle...

But thats when Shaq comes in.

Bynum showed me a bunch this post season, and if there's anyway to keep him and keep him healthy, I think we need to do that, but if Bosh is the better option for whatever reason, I think we need to get Shaq on the phone... And Kobe...

I'm not crazy about bringing Shaq back to this team but if we get Bosh and if Kobe and Shaq are just messing with each other... I think it could be a very successful lineup.

Lots of IFs... Longshot... Highly unlikely... But it's the only way getting Bosh makes sens to me.

im 50/50 on trading for bosh.. andrew i think has shown his worth to the team and i think, if he can stay healthy, he can have an even bigger impact in the future. and ive been saying for a while that if the bosh trade went down, that we would need to get a big bruiser as a center who plays good defense and can rebound. i think shaq would fit nice in this position coming off the bench. but i doubt that kobe will allow that to happen. getting rid of bynum really thins us out defensively, but if anyone knows how to take up space in the lane, shaq does.

chefy · Post #613 » by **chefy** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:12 pm

I think we can get sean williams for super cheap...he looked like he has good potential early in his career, the guy even looked like hes jason kidd's new kenyon martin, I don't know what happened to him...his minutes went down when kidd got traded, but I would be willing to roll the dice to him; , still very young, he can play defense, he hustles, very athletic, and a good shot blocker, his career high is 8 blocks against the kings. we should add him to our pre season roster if other team don't sign him, or if we're gonna replace powell and we're looking for someone as cheap, I'm cool with this dude.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd2LsTWf6oY[/youtube]

highlight of his 8 blocks against kings

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xtdjl1robo/youtube]

highlight against us

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDBKubZbT9s[/youtube]

highlight game playing against us

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDBKubZbT9s[/youtube]

fongie24 · Post #614 » by **fongie24** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:22 pm

highlights look pretty nice, but i have to take them with a grain of salt given its a rook-soph game with no defense.. i wouldnt giving a shake of the dice on him either if given the chance.

Post #615 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:45 pm

sean williams is a complete headcase. wouldn't want him anywhere near the lakers.

fongie24 · Post #616 » by **fongie24** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:22 pm

dcash4 wrote:sean williams is a complete headcase. wouldn't want him anywhere near the lakers.

fair enough...

well given we let powell n mbenga walk.. who do you guys think we should pick up as the 11th n 12th man on the roster? i know its not too important but if they go, somone has to fill thier positions

chefy · Post #617 » by **chefy** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:26 pm

fongie24 wrote:
dcash4 wrote:sean williams is a complete headcase. wouldn't want him anywhere near the lakers.

fair enough...

well given we let powell n mbenga walk.. who do you guys think we should pick up as the 11th n 12th man on the roster? i know its not too important but if they go, somone has to fill thier positions

chris wilcox, if hes willing to sign for cheap

fongie24 · Post #618 » by **fongie24** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:37 pm

he wouldnt be a bad pickup.. i think he would bang more than powell does and would get some good rebounds for us.. i feel powell has tried to turn himself into a jump shooter.

for what his role is on the team, i think DJ does a good job.. i like him better than powell.. he has some questionable moments, but if he was better than he is he would be playing for another team makin a lot more money.. for the services he brings and the price he is at, i think we might keep him around.

but i agree with you.. wilcox > powell

Silvie Lysandra · Post #619 » by **Silvie Lysandra** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:38 pm

I still don't see why you'd trade Bynum for Bosh over Gasol for Bosh (which Toronto would more readily take, as they can flip Gasol for more young talent).

Bosh meshes better with Bynum, is younger, and is more versatile offensively. He may not be Gasol long but he's long enough to maintain the Lakers primary advantage.

Optms · Post #620 » by **Optms** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:07 pm

Chaos Revenant wrote:I still don't see why you'd trade Bynum for Bosh over Gasol for Bosh (which Toronto would more readily take, as they can flip Gasol for more young talent).

Bosh meshes better with Bynum, is younger, and is more versatile offensively. He may not be Gasol long but he's long enough to maintain the Lakers primary advantage.

Gasol instantly just assisted us to 3 straight NBA finals appearance, which just so happens to include a pair of back to back beauties. Morally, that is just wrong. Filthy dirty dirty thinking. Dangerous for you, too. But because there is absolutely no reason or incentive for the front office to ever consider contemplating Gasol and 'trade block' in the same sentence - ever. And I've come around on Bynum staying on the team, but if it meant him or Gasol going; ship Drew's ass outta here and make with what we receive in return. Guess what? The team would survive.

Realistically, everything you've stated are less likely scenarios than say Dane Cook's ass being lit up by lightning while crying himself to sleep tonight on ho's ho's. And as much as I wish and wish and wish, that just isn't happening. You should be ashamed of yourself.