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Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion

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Who will the Lakers pick?

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Brandon Ingram
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#641 » by jigga_man » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:05 am

Regarding Marquese Chriss

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Where that tends to show up the most vividly right now is as on the defensive glass. At 4.1 rebounds per-40, Chriss ranks among the least prolific power forwards in NBA Draft history according to our database. Among first round picks, only Thaddeus Young (who played mostly SF in college) had a worse defensive rebounding rate in the draft's last 30 years. Chriss almost never puts a body on opposing big men in an attempt to box out and prepare for loose balls coming off the glass, and his relatively small standing reach (measured at 8'9, comparable with most small forwards) didn't help matters much. In addition to his instincts, his motor here leaves a lot to be desired as well, as if at times appears he's operating at half speed, and far more focused on his work on the offensive end.

Not surprisingly, that translates to the rest of his play defensively. He has the quickness needed to stay in front of nearly everyone he encounters, and the explosiveness to block a decent amount of shots, but lacks the fundamentals, discipline and consistent effort required to take advantage of that. Opposing coaching staffs regularly targeted him in isolation situations, and found a lot of success doing so, as he would typically either commit a foul or give up a basket.


Horrific rebounder & poor defender. Everything you want out of a PF.
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Post#642 » by Mirjalovic » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:17 am

Why is Marquesse so hyped ?

In my eyes he is just another generic PF that his game won't translate in NBA. If anything i would take Skal/Bender/Ellenson over him if i want to gamble.




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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#643 » by Sofa King » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:36 am

76ciology wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
76ciology wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/16084867/chad-ford-latest-intel-brandon-ingram-jamal-murray-ben-simmons-more-2016-nba-draft

P.S. Ingram is raw (not NBA ready) so it's no surprise. Drafting in Ingram is believing that he has really good base rate to be a good wing after development such as PG or Kawhi.


I don't have Insider, what's the gist?


It's just saying how Chad thinks Chriss and Ingram has same upside but Ingram has a lower floor.

Here are some of the quotes I've been given this week:
"The Lakers should take Marquese Chriss at No. 2."
First Kevin Pelton says the Lakers should take Dragan Bender at No. 2. Now this?
Chriss was at No. 8 on our Big Board for quite a while, and moved up to No. 6 in our latest Big Board. We are currently projecting him to go No. 4 to the Suns in our latest mock draft.
But No. 2? Over Brandon Ingram? Is the hype going overboard?
Chriss' elite athleticism, combined with size, length and the ability to both stretch the floor and protect the rim make him a unique prospect. Few players have a similar combination of physical tools and basketball skills.
In the past few weeks I've heard comparisons to Shawn Marion and Shawn Kemp. As we've been saying in this space for a while, he has highest ceiling in the draft after Ben Simmons and Ingram.
But does he have a higher ceiling than Ingram? Perhaps. He's a better athlete, and given his body type, he might be a better defender (if he can learn how to stay out of foul trouble).
That said, he's not the shooter Ingram is and his floor is also much lower. Ingram is more of a sure thing. Chriss is much more raw, and while he is clearly competitive, his decision-making on the court is a lot further behind compared to Ingram.
Talking to Lakers sources, I think Ingram is the pick for L.A. at No. 2. He has similar upside to Chriss without the risks.


Here's the summary of your summary...

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NBA draft chatter from NBA general managers, scouts and agents is arriving constantly via phone, text and email.

And what I'm hearing are provocative comments -- from GMs that I trust with strong track records of truth telling this time of year -- that help decide how the draft is shaping up.

That includes the latest on the Lakers, Celtics, Brandon Ingram, Jamal Murray and much more

Here are some of the quotes I've been given this week:

"The Lakers should take Marquese Chriss at No. 2."

First Kevin Pelton says the Lakers should take Dragan Bender at No. 2. Now this?

Chriss was at No. 8 on our Big Board for quite a while, and moved up to No. 6 in our latest Big Board. We are currently projecting him to go No. 4 to the Suns in our latest mock draft.

But No. 2? Over Brandon Ingram? Is the hype going overboard?

Chriss' elite athleticism, combined with size, length and the ability to both stretch the floor and protect the rim make him a unique prospect. Few players have a similar combination of physical tools and basketball skills.

In the past few weeks I've heard comparisons to Shawn Marion and Shawn Kemp. As we've been saying in this space for a while, he has highest ceiling in the draft after Ben Simmons and Ingram.

But does he have a higher ceiling than Ingram? Perhaps. He's a better athlete, and given his body type, he might be a better defender (if he can learn how to stay out of foul trouble).

That said, he's not the shooter Ingram is and his floor is also much lower. Ingram is more of a sure thing. Chriss is much more raw, and while he is clearly competitive, his decision-making on the court is a lot further behind compared to Ingram.

Talking to Lakers sources, I think Ingram is the pick for L.A. at No. 2. He has similar upside to Chriss without the risks.

But after that? The Celtics, Suns and Wolves all will be very tempted. I'm still betting on the Suns at No. 4. But the Celtics taking him at No. 3 is a real possibility.

"Jamal Murray may be the best scorer in the draft, but he can't guard anybody."

Shooting is at an all-time premium in the league right now. After Murray broke a Celtics record in a workout on Wednesday, hitting 79-for-100 from NBA 3, and John Calipari stating it's Murray -- not Simmons, Ingram or Chriss -- that should be the No. 1 pick, should Murray actually be considered for the top spot?

His strengths as a scorer are obvious. Not only can he really shoot it, but Murray has more to his game than just a jump shot. He can put the ball on the deck, get to the rim, and see the floor well enough to be a playmaker.

Multipositional, playmaking shooters are the rage right now. So why isn't he No. 1?

One GM nailed it by saying there are serious concerns about who Murray guards at the next level. The effort is there, but the lateral quickness is not. That probably keeps him in the No. 3-6 range.

"If Dejounte Murray played at North Carolina or Duke, he'd be a top-five pick."

We've been high on Murray for a while and it seems as if the league is catching up to that point of view. His length, quickness, toughness and ability to play multiple positions make him one of the highest upside guards in the draft.

As I wrote in my workout confidential on Thursday, if you compare Kris Dunn to Murray at the same age, I think Murray probably would get the nod over Dunn in this year's draft.

But top-five pick? His lack of shooting probably keeps him from hitting that range. Dunn is ahead of Dejounte Murray on virtually every draft board in the league and I think it will stay that way. But after Dunn is off the board (and Jamal Murray, if you count him as a point guard), I think Dejounte Murray has moved into the consensus spot as the next-best PG in the draft.

There are teams, particularly the Wolves and Pelicans, that could take him in the top six. But I think his landing spot is more likely in the No. 8-17 range, with the Kings, Bucks, Jazz, Bulls and Grizzlies the most likely candidates to draft him.

"Malachi Richardson canceled his workout with us."

This was relayed to me by a team in the mid-first round. It was confirmed by another team in the early 20s. What's going on? It looks as if his agent is confident that Richardson is going somewhere in the late lottery or slightly later. The Jazz (No. 12), Suns (No. 13), Nuggets (No. 15 and No. 19) and Hawks (No. 21) have gotten workouts. It sounds as if the Bucks (No. 10) will get one as well.

Agents do this all the time. They get what are called "soft promises" from teams that basically say, "If the draft plays out the way we think it will and if we keep the pick, we'll take your guy." If agents get multiple soft promises, they often choose to limit a player's workouts.

It's not clear exactly why the workouts were canceled, but the evidence suggests that Richardson's range is No. 10 to No. 21.

"Shooting is obviously really important in our league, but I think the ability to make plays for others is even more important."

I spoke about this on David Locke's podcast recently. The trend this year is to prioritize playmaking, and that trend is influenced greatly by a Golden State team that puts four great passers -- Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green -- on the floor together. More and more teams are looking for players who can defend multiple positions and also make their teammates better.

Who is it helping? Ben Simmons, obviously. It's why his lack of shooting is less of a concern than people think. But it's also really helping Jamal Murray, Dragan Bender, Dejounte Murray, Domantas Sabonis, DeAndre Bembry, Denzel Valentine, and Patrick McCaw.

"Isaiah Cousins will be the guy that falls into the second round that should've been a first-rounder."

Every year there's a guy who goes in the second round that's a head-scratcher two or three years down the road. International picks and one-and-dones get a pass, because often teams are drafting with limited information.

But college seniors? After four years of scouting? It feels a bit inexcusable. Draymond Green is an obvious example. But the list is long. Paul Millsap, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas, Khris Middleton, Danny Green and Kyle Korver all raise major questions about teams' draft decisions.

This year it sounds as if that player might be Oklahoma's Isaiah Cousins. I've heard multiple teams over the past week refer to him as a guy who probably doesn't get taken in the first, but probably will outperform many of the players taken ahead of him.

"He's a good athlete and defender," one GM said. "He can play and defend both backcourt positions. He can really shoot it. He's been killing it in workouts. I think he's going to have a long career."

So why not take him in the first?

"You take guys like that for granted a bit," the GM said. "You feel like you can always find them. So you reach for more upside or sexier picks in the first. I'm not saying it's right. It's just how things are."
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#644 » by stan francisco » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:49 pm

I like this Ingram kid. Down to earth. I'm assuming the sixers pick Simmons so I haven't even looked him up.

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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#645 » by TylersLakers » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:15 pm

crazyeights wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:Judging by the fact it was a "private" workout that no media saw, and I have to believe it was limited to only a handful of people in the gym, I doubt it. The Lakers organization has never been one of "sources." Whenever things happen, it's usually tight lipped.

Until I hear something from Ding or Ramona, I wouldn't believe a single thing.


It wasn't the media. Also I have no reason not to believe him. Regardless, there's still a lot of time until June 23. I trust the FO will make another good call.


Of course it wasn't the media as they weren't let in to the workout.

I doubt anyone was in the workout outside of maybe 4-5 people. And the fact that one of those people would go find a RealGM poster to tell details of the workout to is almost laughable.

So you can choose to believe him, that's fine. However, I know the Lakers history with the media and there is not much that gets out. Kevin Ding has the most inside knowledge with Ramona Shelburne being #2. They've said nothing.
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Post#646 » by crazyeights » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:22 pm

TylersLakers wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:Judging by the fact it was a "private" workout that no media saw, and I have to believe it was limited to only a handful of people in the gym, I doubt it. The Lakers organization has never been one of "sources." Whenever things happen, it's usually tight lipped.

Until I hear something from Ding or Ramona, I wouldn't believe a single thing.


It wasn't the media. Also I have no reason not to believe him. Regardless, there's still a lot of time until June 23. I trust the FO will make another good call.


Of course it wasn't the media as they weren't let in to the workout.

I doubt anyone was in the workout outside of maybe 4-5 people. And the fact that one of those people would go find a RealGM poster to tell details of the workout to is almost laughable.

So you can choose to believe him, that's fine. However, I know the Lakers history with the media and there is not much that gets out. Kevin Ding has the most inside knowledge with Ramona Shelburne being #2. They've said nothing.


You realize that people aren't only their internet avatars, right? That they have real lives and stations in life, and maybe actually know people?

Around LA a lot of things get out, they just don't make it to the media, because in the end these are all fans who find this stuff interesting, but ultimately are rooting for the organization to succeed.

You're acting like somewhat petulant as if hearing something not-positive is going to shatter your dreams. Believe what you want, and as was said it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I guess reactions like yours are why the expression "don't shoot the messenger" exists.

Lastly, this 4 or 5 people number you're fixated on is way off. Have you ever seen footage of a workout? There's all sorts of staff there. This isn't some backroom meeting, it's simply a workout that's closed to the media.
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Post#647 » by crazyeights » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:26 pm

The fact that Ingram is only 18 years old is huge. Hope this isn't overlooked. The kid has so much more growing to do.
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Post#648 » by TylersLakers » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:32 pm

crazyeights wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
It wasn't the media. Also I have no reason not to believe him. Regardless, there's still a lot of time until June 23. I trust the FO will make another good call.


Of course it wasn't the media as they weren't let in to the workout.

I doubt anyone was in the workout outside of maybe 4-5 people. And the fact that one of those people would go find a RealGM poster to tell details of the workout to is almost laughable.

So you can choose to believe him, that's fine. However, I know the Lakers history with the media and there is not much that gets out. Kevin Ding has the most inside knowledge with Ramona Shelburne being #2. They've said nothing.


You realize that people aren't only their internet avatars, right? That they have real lives and stations in life, and maybe actually know people?

Around LA a lot of things get out, they just don't make it to the media, because in the end these are all fans who find this stuff interesting, but ultimately are rooting for the organization to succeed.

You're acting like somewhat petulant as if hearing something not-positive is going to shatter your dreams. Believe what you want, and as was said it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I guess reactions like yours are why the expression "don't shoot the messenger" exists.

Lastly, this 4 or 5 people number you're fixated on is way off. Have you ever seen footage of a workout? There's all sorts of staff there. This isn't some backroom meeting, it's simply a workout that's closed to the media.


Hey man, not arguing with you, he may be Joey Buss for all I know.

The bottom line is this: The Lakers don't let stuff get out. If they do, it's the few sources as I mentioned above.

The fact that no one else has said anything about the workout proves to me it was pretty tight lipped. That simple, really.

As far as it "shattering my dreams" as you so cleverly termed it, even if he came out and said "I've been told my sources that the Lakers told Ingram they were going to draft him if he fell to #2. After Mitch notified Ingram of this, they all sat around and ate KFC together," -- I would still have the exact same reaction.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#649 » by gts1 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:25 pm

76ciology wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
76ciology wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/16084867/chad-ford-latest-intel-brandon-ingram-jamal-murray-ben-simmons-more-2016-nba-draft

P.S. Ingram is raw (not NBA ready) so it's no surprise. Drafting in Ingram is believing that he has really good base rate to be a good wing after development such as PG or Kawhi.


I don't have Insider, what's the gist?


It's just saying how Chad thinks Chriss and Ingram has same upside but Ingram has a lower floor.

Here are some of the quotes I've been given this week:
"The Lakers should take Marquese Chriss at No. 2."
First Kevin Pelton says the Lakers should take Dragan Bender at No. 2. Now this?
Chriss was at No. 8 on our Big Board for quite a while, and moved up to No. 6 in our latest Big Board. We are currently projecting him to go No. 4 to the Suns in our latest mock draft.
But No. 2? Over Brandon Ingram? Is the hype going overboard?
Chriss' elite athleticism, combined with size, length and the ability to both stretch the floor and protect the rim make him a unique prospect. Few players have a similar combination of physical tools and basketball skills.
In the past few weeks I've heard comparisons to Shawn Marion and Shawn Kemp. As we've been saying in this space for a while, he has highest ceiling in the draft after Ben Simmons and Ingram.
But does he have a higher ceiling than Ingram? Perhaps. He's a better athlete, and given his body type, he might be a better defender (if he can learn how to stay out of foul trouble).
That said, he's not the shooter Ingram is and his floor is also much lower. Ingram is more of a sure thing. Chriss is much more raw, and while he is clearly competitive, his decision-making on the court is a lot further behind compared to Ingram.
Talking to Lakers sources, I think Ingram is the pick for L.A. at No. 2. He has similar upside to Chriss without the risks.


That's not what he's saying at all...

That said, he's not the shooter Ingram is and his floor is also much lower. Ingram is more of a sure thing.
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Post#650 » by trevm37 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:03 pm

I am a big Ingram fan, and although from what I've heard is very similar to what I heard about Okafor last year, I still hope the Lakers pick Ingram and be patient bringing him along, but the #2 pick is in no way settled. The Lakers are still working out prospects and setting up more work outs.
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Post#651 » by ALL HAIL » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:29 pm

I think Brandon Ingram's best position in another three to five years will be PF.

That said, right now, I question his ability to guard NBA SFs and, albeit less concerning, his ability to dribble and drive against NBA SFs.

He looks like the type who really needs to be brought along slowly. He's not Durant. He, to me, is not an ideal first day starting SF.
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Post#652 » by TyCobb » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:32 pm

He'll never rebound enough for a PF. He is absolutely 100% a capable SF.

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Post#653 » by trevm37 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:41 pm

His ability to guard NBA 3s with his length is supposed to be one of his highest attributes. His dribble and drive is concerning but most rookie SFs cant dribble and drive against NBAers....
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Post#654 » by ALL HAIL » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:52 pm

On "my" team Kevin Durant would play PF and center. Tall guys (6'10 and up), with long-ass arms are PFs unless they have back to the basket games to post up their smaller defenders -- drives me crazy with Durant!

Don't be surprised to see Ingram getting substantial time at PF and some minutes at center in the next handful of years, especially after he gets on the Elden Campbell meal plan and puts on 35 pounds of muscle.
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Post#655 » by 76ciology » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:54 pm

gts1 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
I don't have Insider, what's the gist?


It's just saying how Chad thinks Chriss and Ingram has same upside but Ingram has a lower floor.

Here are some of the quotes I've been given this week:
"The Lakers should take Marquese Chriss at No. 2."
First Kevin Pelton says the Lakers should take Dragan Bender at No. 2. Now this?
Chriss was at No. 8 on our Big Board for quite a while, and moved up to No. 6 in our latest Big Board. We are currently projecting him to go No. 4 to the Suns in our latest mock draft.
But No. 2? Over Brandon Ingram? Is the hype going overboard?
Chriss' elite athleticism, combined with size, length and the ability to both stretch the floor and protect the rim make him a unique prospect. Few players have a similar combination of physical tools and basketball skills.
In the past few weeks I've heard comparisons to Shawn Marion and Shawn Kemp. As we've been saying in this space for a while, he has highest ceiling in the draft after Ben Simmons and Ingram.
But does he have a higher ceiling than Ingram? Perhaps. He's a better athlete, and given his body type, he might be a better defender (if he can learn how to stay out of foul trouble).
That said, he's not the shooter Ingram is and his floor is also much lower. Ingram is more of a sure thing. Chriss is much more raw, and while he is clearly competitive, his decision-making on the court is a lot further behind compared to Ingram.
Talking to Lakers sources, I think Ingram is the pick for L.A. at No. 2. He has similar upside to Chriss without the risks.


That's not what he's saying at all...

That said, he's not the shooter Ingram is and his floor is also much lower. Ingram is more of a sure thing.


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Post#656 » by dockingsched » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:19 pm

^^^re-read what you initially wrote, it's the opposite of what the article and the tweet you provided are saying
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Post#657 » by ArC_man » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:40 pm

That interview with Ingram was pretty boring, I guess the Duke guys all get the same interview training.
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Post#658 » by Slava » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:05 pm

According to ESPN's NBA Draft Projection Model

Code: Select all

PLAYER SPM   ALL-STAR   BUST
Ingram   90.5   25%   26%
Dunn   88.9   18%   26%
Poeltl   88.8   12%   16%
Simmons   88.2   25%   35%
Chriss   88.2   21%   31%


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Post#659 » by DRussell » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:13 pm

I'm surprised Thon Maker is rated so highly here.
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Post#660 » by ArC_man » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:44 pm

Marcus Smart, Dion Waiters, and Thomas Robinson had a higher all star potential than KAT :lol:

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