2018 Trade Ideas thread

[TylersLakers]

On a side note: I hate watching Al Horford with the Boston Celtics. A few years ago, when he was a free agent, he would have been very interested in hearing what we had to say, according to reports.

Mitch and Jim didn't place a call Horford's way. Instead, they called Timofey Mozgov.

Imagine Al Horford with our young core.

[Spens1]

What kind of contract do you think Boogie will fetch this offseason?

If New Orleans doesn't offer the max, I could easily see a 1 year, $30M offer from the Lakers especially if George signs and we still have the room remaining.

PG: Lonzo
SG: George
SF: Ingram
PF: Kuzma
C: Randle

Until Cousins returns. Once he does, Kuzma slides back to a 6th man role and Randle and Boogie start in the front court.

However, finding depth would be tough. The room exception would basically be the only tool we have.

I'd have Randle come off the bench at P.F. and S.F. and have Kuzma start because of the stretch options he provides in truth, either way if DMC is anywhere near what he was before, he'd be amazing.

[MixedUp]

My A+ offseason would be anything that doesn't involve signing LeBron.

I dont want the ISO drive and kick offense here.
I don't want all the drama here.
I dont want to building around a 33 year old.

Yet it seems I am the only one.


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[SlimShady83]

My A+ offseason would be anything that doesn't involve signing LeBron.

I dont want the ISO drive and kick offense here.
I don't want all the drama here.
I dont want to building around a 33 year old.

Yet it seems I am the only one.


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No you are not!

[stan francisco]

What are they doing for next season though to fill it out? Expect KD to take another paycut? I'm curious to see how they operate this offseason. Who knows... maybe KD enters another chapter...

This.

It’s very unlikely he doesn’t stay. But I’m also thinking KD might be the only one ballsy enough to pick up Kobe’s challenge. He’s a different kind of dude. Basketball legend immortality is on the other end of that challenge. Mentions with Milan, Wilt, West, Kareem, Magic, Shaquille, Kobe ... Durant...

Now when his defense has improved greatly(!), I currently hold him as the best two way player in the league and I would take him over LeBron.

[3nnui]

I think a realistic and great offseason would be the additions of Paul George, Clint Capela, and Mirotic. This is doable under the cap, and could possibly enable us to keep Randle (though randle does not pair well with Capela, so I might be more inclined to let him go.

With this we are in good shape with the cap, all of our young players can continue to develop and we have a contending team going forward.

We could draft a point guard or a back up big depending on the development of Zu and bryant. We might also be able to pick up montrez Harrel to round out our bigs, he would be a great pairing with Bryant.

Lonzo/vet minimum pick up (or draft pick)
George/Hart
Ingram/Hart/kuzma
Kuzma/mirotic/Harrell
Capela/Bryant/Harrell

This would enable so many good lineups, This team could run, defend switch and shoot. They would be young, athletic, but with a resident superstar in George and some up and coming stars. I think this team makes the playoffs the first year and continues to trend upward for the next decade.

[danfantastk32]

My A+ offseason would be anything that doesn't involve signing LeBron.

I dont want the ISO drive and kick offense here.
I don't want all the drama here.
I dont want to building around a 33 year old.

Yet it seems I am the only one.

Not close. There are millions of you. Why you hate Lebron, I will never know. Most of it has to do with some "Kobe is our guy" imagined rivalry....I just don't get it.

You been a Laker fan long? Maybe you remember Magic getting the coach fired....the sour Kareem mad he never got props like Magic. How about Magic contracting HIV with a pregnant wife at home? You remember J-West getting pushed outa town? Shaq and Kobe ring a bell?? What about the Kobe rape case? Kobe and Malone getting into it? Phils last year with Payton....Phil going on a tell-all tour ala H-Clinton....."Its everybody's fault but mine!". And no-one can forget our great stint with Rodman.

You remember Kobe and Shmush? Medvedenko refusing to play defense.....Horrace Grant deciding to quit mid-season. Kobe demanding a trade? Calling out Bynum. Our semi-functioning alcoholic coach who made it like 50 games before quitting.

You remember our year with Dwight? The D'antoni signing over Phil. Jeanie's reaction. You remember losing CP3, and Lamar refusing to show up? How about the dip-stick son who ruined this team...and then tried a hostile takeover? How about Magic running to the media for 2 years bad-mouthing out coaches? The final season of Kobe.....and what a wasted season that was? How about a certain phone recording a couple years back? The fallout from that....Magic's parting shot to him.

Your worried about 'drama' huh?

Go look in the mirror and say it out loud: WE ARE THE KARDASIANS <----spelling...don't know, don't care.

The only point against Lebron worthy of mention is his age. But I'll take a 33 year old Lebron over 29 year old PG any day. What's PG done? Who had a better year this year? Who's still best on the planet? Who's never gonna be close to best on planet? I think you should look at Kareem...23ppg at 38. Lebron has a much better body, and 10-million times the health/nutrition/training at his side.

If we could get a younger super-stud player....I'm all for it. But to consider signing Lebron some sorta 'failure'...I mean Jesus.

[larry14r]

My A+ offseason would be anything that doesn't involve signing LeBron.

I dont want the ISO drive and kick offense here.
I don't want all the drama here.
I dont want to building around a 33 year old.

Yet it seems I am the only one.

Not close. There are millions of you. Why you hate Lebron, I will never know. Most of it has to do with some "Kobe is our guy" imagined rivalry....I just don't get it.

You been a Laker fan long? Maybe you remember Magic getting the coach fired....the sour Kareem mad he never got props like Magic. How about Magic contracting HIV with a pregnant wife at home? You remember J-West getting pushed outa town? Shaq and Kobe ring a bell?? What about the Kobe rape case? Kobe and Malone getting into it? Phils last year with Payton....Phil going on a tell-all tour ala H-Clinton....."Its everybody's fault but mine!". And no-one can forget our great stint with Rodman.

You remember Kobe and Shmush? Medvedenko refusing to play defense.....Horrace Grant deciding to quit mid-season. Kobe demanding a trade? Calling out Bynum. Our semi-functioning alcoholic coach who made it like 50 games before quitting.

You remember our year with Dwight? The D'antoni signing over Phil. Jeanie's reaction. You remember losing CP3, and Lamar refusing to show up? How about the dip-stick son who ruined this team...and then tried a hostile takeover? How about Magic running to the media for 2 years bad-mouthing out coaches? The final season of Kobe.....and what a wasted season that was? How about a certain phone recording a couple years back? The fallout from that....Magic's parting shot to him.

Your worried about 'drama' huh?

Go look in the mirror and say it out loud: WE ARE THE KARDASIANS <----spelling...don't know, don't care.

The only point against Lebron worthy of mention is his age. But I'll take a 33 year old Lebron over 29 year old PG any day. What's PG done? Who had a better year this year? Who's still best on the planet? Who's never gonna be close to best on planet? I think you should look at Kareem...23ppg at 38. Lebron has a much better body, and 10-million times the health/nutrition/training at his side.

If we could get a younger super-stud player....I'm all for it. But to consider signing Lebron some sorta 'failure'...I mean Jesus.

That's what we said about Malone, but look what happened to him. Father time will get LeBron soon enough, and so will GS.

[TylersLakers]

My views on LeBron remains as follows:

I don't think he's best suited for us just because of the type of players around him. Hart, Kuzma and Randle would fit perfectly next to him. However, Lonzo and Ingram are difficult fits.

When you also factor in the ages of our core, it doesn't make sense in that regard.

With all that said, if he wants to sign here, you sign him. He's the best player in the world and one of the greatest players of all time.

[zuju]

I think a realistic and great offseason would be the additions of Paul George, Clint Capela, and Mirotic. This is doable under the cap, and could possibly enable us to keep Randle (though randle does not pair well with Capela, so I might be more inclined to let him go.

With this we are in good shape with the cap, all of our young players can continue to develop and we have a contending team going forward.

We could draft a point guard or a back up big depending on the development of Zu and bryant. We might also be able to pick up montrez Harrel to round out our bigs, he would be a great pairing with Bryant.

Lonzo/vet minimum pick up (or draft pick)
George/Hart
Ingram/Hart/kuzma
Kuzma/mirotic/Harrell
Capela/Bryant/Harrell

This would enable so many good lineups, This team could run, defend switch and shoot. They would be young, athletic, but with a resident superstar in George and some up and coming stars. I think this team makes the playoffs the first year and continues to trend upward for the next decade.

Huh !? You let randle walk because of capela ?
Whats the point to do that ?

[Landsberger]

My views on LeBron remains as follows:

I don't think he's best suited for us just because of the type of players around him. Hart, Kuzma and Randle would fit perfectly next to him. However, Lonzo and Ingram are difficult fits.

When you also factor in the ages of our core, it doesn't make sense in that regard.

With all that said, if he wants to sign here, you sign him. He's the best player in the world and one of the greatest players of all time.

Balance is the key to a great team. I'm not sure Randle fits unless you are penciling him in at the 5. I'm not sure he can defend the top 5's in the league. I'm with you on Ingram and Bron. Ingram isn't your prototypical floor spacer and he really needs to have the ball to be effective. Randle is very similar. Bron loves to set the offense and drive/dish...... dish to who is the issue. How does Ball fit if he's not the primary initiator? I think Hart is, at best, the second guard off the bench on a very good team.

If we get Bron we probably won't stop there in reshaping the team. Bron alone wouldn't seem to be enough considering how his game would overlap/take away from some of the guys we have now.

[danfantastk32]

That's what we said about Malone, but look what happened to him. Father time will get LeBron soon enough, and so will GS.

I think you need to go look back at that. Karl Malone was in his 19th season with us. He averaged almost 21ppg and 8 rebounds the year before. But for a freak injury where a guy rolled into his leg....not a break-down in any / shape / form. In fact he was coming back, had he and Kobe not got into some sort of altercation involving Kobe's wife. Malone was 40-41....don't forget 4 years of college was pretty typical back then.

Yes....I will concede that Malones injury prob didn't heal as fast as when he was 26, but that's just assumption. The guy played 81 games the season before. 80 before that. Bynum was like 21-22 when a guy rolled into his leg, and forever changed his career. I don't think 'age' had anything to do with Malone. Malone could have easily played another couple years. And still been pretty good.

Again, I don't think Lebron's age is a ZERO factor. But this idea that he's got 3 maybe 4 years left, is totally wrong. He will start to wane, and when he does....he'll still be better than PG.

[Unbiased hater]

He is on decline this year , he dont play defence anymore so he can prolong his career . He can go to the ECF or Finals bc East is weak but on the West he would need to play muh much better to do the same and to have much better support . Especially because his game can only be worse in the future and i think that he has 2 years on this level with slow decline and after that quality of his game would drop significatly.

Drama that he brings isn't the same as in those situations that you mentioned bc if he comes and team become succesfull you would have Lakers fans, new fans that come with success and Lebrons fans following the same team and he is most popular player in the NBA so you would see the difference on this board , on social media and in real life. Difference between level of drama with Lebron and drama when situation with Shaq and Kobe happened for example is that they become real superstars while they were Lakers so majority of their fans were Lakers fans too. Lebrons fans that will come aren't Lakers fans and they care only about him so if he play good and team is losing they will be happy and if team wins but he play terrible they will be unhappy ( btw i think that this wont happen bc his teams are heavily oriented around him and he dont allows plan B so when he play bad usually his team play bad ) . So when drama with him starts they would care only about his image and how to make him look good in that situation and they wouldn't care about what is best for the team. Also if team play bad they would always look for scapegoat especially if he is the reason for that. This would divide real Lakers fans and Lebrons fans so Lakers fans would start to hate him bc of his fans and their behaviour . Lakers fans never really faced with situation like that before but you can ask teams that had situations like that when fans of superstar player or popular foreign player with huge fanbase start following your team because of him so you can see how big problem team fans can have with them. If he help the team to become NBA champions then everyone will think that it was worth it but if not it would be much bigger failure than situations with Malone or Dwight .

[TylersLakers]

There's a few Raps fans on their board talking about an Ingram and Deng trade for DeRozan.

I would consider that.

Lonzo, DeRozan, George, Kuzma, Randle with Hart, Zubac, Bryant, our 1st & 2nd round pick and $20M remaining in cap space is a pretty damn good situation to be in.

[G-Ant]

What about Clint Capela? The Rockets could have money issues, especially if they in some way sign LeBron and by the way Capela is performing, he won't take that much of a paycut.

His defense is elite already and offensively with Lonzo I would be thrilled on having him here. If I have to choose between Randle and Capela, I'd go with the latter. Less ofensive talent for sure, but he would thrive in our system and we would have a quality rim protector.

[stan francisco]

I think every Lakers fan should watch the games leading up to Lonzo and BI getting injured, in order to calm down. At that time, we had a stretch of games at close to full strength during which I had the feeling that we could contend with most playoffs teams. They were sharing the ball and playing very hard defense.

I’m fine with adding one star this summer, waiting out GSW’s and Rockets’ fall from grace, snag another star next season in order to contend then and for the long term.

[dockingsched]

There's a few Raps fans on their board talking about an Ingram and Deng trade for DeRozan.

I would consider that.

Lonzo, DeRozan, George, Kuzma, Randle with Hart, Zubac, Bryant, our 1st & 2nd round pick and $20M remaining in cap space is a pretty damn good situation to be in.

Unless there’s a team lined up willing to take Derozan in a 3-way, I wouldn’t even trade Deng for him. With Deng you can stretch him to create cap if needed. With Derozan and his contract, you’re forced to consider him a foundation of your team, and that means you’re never going to be a title contender.

[scoobs07]

There's a few Raps fans on their board talking about an Ingram and Deng trade for DeRozan.

I would consider that.

Lonzo, DeRozan, George, Kuzma, Randle with Hart, Zubac, Bryant, our 1st & 2nd round pick and $20M remaining in cap space is a pretty damn good situation to be in.

Unless there’s a team lined up willing to take Derozan in a 3-way, I wouldn’t even trade Deng for him. With Deng you can stretch him to create cap if needed. With Derozan and his contract, you’re forced to consider him a foundation of your team, and that means you’re never going to be a title contender.

That would be a bad trade for the Lakers imo. First off, I think Derozen is a bad fit in today's NBA let alone the Lakers. Second, his game is similar to Ingram's but he is much more expensive. BI and Derozen's second year numbers are almost identical. Notably, they both got 5 free throw attempts per game and Derozen became one of the best in the game at free throw attempts. However, Ingram takes a lot more three pointers and is more accurate from there. Long story short, Ingram is well on his way of having a Derozen type of career, only better for todays NBA game, because he is better from distance and a better ball handler and passer btw. So, yeah, if Toronto has interest in Ingram and would take Deng, maybe there is a team out there that would want to do a three way trade.

[thankyouKOBE]

Nice to see most responses say that Okafor could be a productive bench piece and maybe finally get it together. I don't know what the plan is with Zubac or Bryant, and I don't think we're bringing back Lopez, so you know, if Magic still wants the kid...

[loveshaq786]

What we should be talking about is capella or randle... Who should we spend our money on?