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Post#681 » by stan francisco » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:24 pm

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ROballer wrote:...he'll still going to be considerably better than anything we call youth on our team.


I don't know man, he's peaking early and the step back jumper looks cool but I really don't see the necessary athleticism for having a high ceiling. Ingram blew by him a few times and he barely reacted in the game at Dallas.


And Luka was blowing by every LAL player as well. So what's your point? He torched Bradley, Beverly, Harris, when they played LAC. He is seeing multiple top defenders from opposing teams on a regular basis. He was double teamed vs PHX. And he still finds a way to produce big numbers. And saying a 19yo peaked at this age with baby fat on him, not even in a proper NBA shape is just utter BS.

Obviously he will have up and down games and defense is not there yet, but i guess that's just another proof that he is just a young kid trying to develop NBA game.


He’s already playing like a five year pro. And, he is. Defensively, he might have challenges going forward due to lack of lateral quickness but he reads the game well and anticipates well to compensate for it.

Offensively, I see no problems. I’ve quite frankly never seen a 19 year old play a more mature all around game. The game has already slowed down for him, it’s semmingly effortless for him to score, he calmly makes the right decisions all the time and passes well, too. He makes a ton of stuff happen, with very little fluff. Efficiently creates space with his weight and size.

In one way he’s similar to another slow ball player who had his way his whole career. Slow, overweight, relatively unathletic; still nobody could stop him because he has the smarts to play the right way and the cool in his belly to take advantage of a centimeter of space or a blink of an eye of an opening. Z Bo. I think Luka will have a much better career, though, due to offensive talents.

Both have deceptively unimpressive looking games in that it doesn’t look like they’re dominating, but both will keep reliably putting up big numbers every night.

Would I want him here? No. Defense, rebounds being why.
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Re: Around The NBA X 

Post#682 » by Archx » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:58 pm

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I don't know man, he's peaking early and the step back jumper looks cool but I really don't see the necessary athleticism for having a high ceiling. Ingram blew by him a few times and he barely reacted in the game at Dallas.


And Luka was blowing by every LAL player as well. So what's your point? He torched Bradley, Beverly, Harris, when they played LAC. He is seeing multiple top defenders from opposing teams on a regular basis. He was double teamed vs PHX. And he still finds a way to produce big numbers. And saying a 19yo peaked at this age with baby fat on him, not even in a proper NBA shape is just utter BS.

Obviously he will have up and down games and defense is not there yet, but i guess that's just another proof that he is just a young kid trying to develop NBA game.


He’s already playing like a five year pro. And, he is. Defensively, he might have challenges going forward due to lack of lateral quickness but he reads the game well and anticipates well to compensate for it.

Offensively, I see no problems. I’ve quite frankly never seen a 19 year old play a more mature all around game. The game has already slowed down for him, it’s semmingly effortless for him to score, he calmly makes the right decisions all the time and passes well, too. He makes a ton of stuff happen, with very little fluff. Efficiently creates space with his weight and size.

In one way he’s similar to another slow ball player who had his way his whole career. Slow, overweight, relatively unathletic; still nobody could stop him because he has the smarts to play the right way and the cool in his belly to take advantage of a centimeter of space or a blink of an eye of an opening. Z Bo. I think Luka will have a much better career, though, due to offensive talents.

Both have deceptively unimpressive looking games in that it doesn’t look like they’re dominating, but both will keep reliably putting up big numbers every night.

Would I want him here? No. Defense, rebounds being why.


OK, respect your opinion but he's a PG not a PF or C :P At first it sounded exactly why you would want him on your team including the fact that he is already one of the best clutch players in the NBA statistically and proven by eye test. :D

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Post#683 » by stan francisco » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:10 pm

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And Luka was blowing by every LAL player as well. So what's your point? He torched Bradley, Beverly, Harris, when they played LAC. He is seeing multiple top defenders from opposing teams on a regular basis. He was double teamed vs PHX. And he still finds a way to produce big numbers. And saying a 19yo peaked at this age with baby fat on him, not even in a proper NBA shape is just utter BS.

Obviously he will have up and down games and defense is not there yet, but i guess that's just another proof that he is just a young kid trying to develop NBA game.


He’s already playing like a five year pro. And, he is. Defensively, he might have challenges going forward due to lack of lateral quickness but he reads the game well and anticipates well to compensate for it.

Offensively, I see no problems. I’ve quite frankly never seen a 19 year old play a more mature all around game. The game has already slowed down for him, it’s semmingly effortless for him to score, he calmly makes the right decisions all the time and passes well, too. He makes a ton of stuff happen, with very little fluff. Efficiently creates space with his weight and size.

In one way he’s similar to another slow ball player who had his way his whole career. Slow, overweight, relatively unathletic; still nobody could stop him because he has the smarts to play the right way and the cool in his belly to take advantage of a centimeter of space or a blink of an eye of an opening. Z Bo. I think Luka will have a much better career, though, due to offensive talents.

Both have deceptively unimpressive looking games in that it doesn’t look like they’re dominating, but both will keep reliably putting up big numbers every night.

Would I want him here? No. Defense, rebounds being why.


OK, respect your opinion but he's a PG not a PF or C :P At first it sounded exactly why you would want him on your team including the fact that he is already one of the best clutch players in the NBA statistically and proven by eye test. :D

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I was comparing their ability to create space out of nothing despite seeming unathletic, not their position.

Luka fan much? FYI, you’re not gonna make the Lakers fan bass see the new light. West, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, LeBron.

I’m surprised his rebounding has improved that much.
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Post#684 » by Archx » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:17 pm

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He’s already playing like a five year pro. And, he is. Defensively, he might have challenges going forward due to lack of lateral quickness but he reads the game well and anticipates well to compensate for it.

Offensively, I see no problems. I’ve quite frankly never seen a 19 year old play a more mature all around game. The game has already slowed down for him, it’s semmingly effortless for him to score, he calmly makes the right decisions all the time and passes well, too. He makes a ton of stuff happen, with very little fluff. Efficiently creates space with his weight and size.

In one way he’s similar to another slow ball player who had his way his whole career. Slow, overweight, relatively unathletic; still nobody could stop him because he has the smarts to play the right way and the cool in his belly to take advantage of a centimeter of space or a blink of an eye of an opening. Z Bo. I think Luka will have a much better career, though, due to offensive talents.

Both have deceptively unimpressive looking games in that it doesn’t look like they’re dominating, but both will keep reliably putting up big numbers every night.

Would I want him here? No. Defense, rebounds being why.


OK, respect your opinion but he's a PG not a PF or C :P At first it sounded exactly why you would want him on your team including the fact that he is already one of the best clutch players in the NBA statistically and proven by eye test. :D

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I was comparing their ability to create space out of nothing despite seeming unathletic, not their position.

Luka fan much? FYI, you’re not gonna make the Lakers fan bass see the new light. West, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, LeBron.

I’m surprised his rebounding has improved that much.


We were just debating. Nothing wrong with that. I already said i respect your opinion and didn't try to change it.
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Post#685 » by stan francisco » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:21 pm

All cool. Just trying to clarify.
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Post#686 » by stan francisco » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:44 pm

How about Dennis Smith Jr; is he just another JC or is his defensive attention and selfish play fixable?

He is a great fit for running the break. He’s a bit pissed off over Luka taking his job; and, for having been offered in trades lately. There is friction.

What do we offer? Anyone? Is there anybody else on the Mavs we want if they’re package trading him?
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Post#687 » by Danny Darko » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:48 pm

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Danny Darko wrote:Thank you Spencer Dinwiddie. Dlo starting is a joke. Dude has a better chance of developing an app than into a legit starter.


This talking out of the ass has to stop. Where were you when he was dropping 22.6 ppg 4.0 rpg 6.7 ast .470 FG, 28 3's at .400% in his past 10?
With the Nets winning 7 out of 10 despite being injured as ****...

But I know, being a smartass is cooler than actual facts.


I watched those too... He still has no business starting over spencer who has owned him all year. Dlo is still a horrible defender who doesn't pass the eye test. Don't live in small spurt stats dude. He's only a player for tiny stretches.
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Post#688 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:15 am

stan francisco wrote:How about Dennis Smith Jr; is he just another JC or is his defensive attention and selfish play fixable?

He is a great fit for running the break. He’s a bit pissed off over Luka taking his job; and, for having been offered in trades lately. There is friction.

What do we offer? Anyone? Is there anybody else on the Mavs we want if they’re package trading him?


Luka is the only one I want from the Mavs, but you said earlier you don't want him. So I think we don't need anyone from the Mavs. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#689 » by myersia » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:22 am

So apparently kyrie is interested in la as a free agent next year. So we know he and Lebron have chemistry and he patched things up with bron. I think kyrie could play the two easily as well and can shoot. Any interest?


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Post#690 » by stan francisco » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:27 am

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stan francisco wrote:How about Dennis Smith Jr; is he just another JC or is his defensive attention and selfish play fixable?

He is a great fit for running the break. He’s a bit pissed off over Luka taking his job; and, for having been offered in trades lately. There is friction.

What do we offer? Anyone? Is there anybody else on the Mavs we want if they’re package trading him?


Luka is the only one I want from the Mavs, but you said earlier you don't want him. So I think we don't need anyone from the Mavs. :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: If his defense isn’t as poor as it’s been against the Lakers, I might have to eat that statement big time. Dude is for real, no doubt, and I’d of course take on his rookie deal any time if the Mavs would give it up. :lol:
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Post#691 » by mcscotty » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:01 am

Jazz win and knock us down to the 9th seed.......damn. :banghead:
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Post#692 » by TyCobb » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:48 am

Why can't Anthony Davis win? Holy crap.
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Post#693 » by myersia » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:48 am

Why didn’t we sign boogie?!


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Post#694 » by dockingsched » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:12 am

TyCobb wrote:Why can't Anthony Davis win? Holy crap.

At this rate I’d be surprised if Alvin Gentry survives the season.
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Post#695 » by Wavy Q » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:15 am

TyCobb wrote:Why can't Anthony Davis win? Holy crap.


My theory based on watching a total of 0 Pelicans games is that 1.) Gentry sucks ass and 2.) AD doesn't make teammates better
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Post#696 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:50 am

How do you guys feel about the possibility of Kyrie Irving joining the team? I don't like him OR hate him, but think he'd be worth going for next year? - not sure on the $$$$

some believe there's a good chance of it happening ???
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Post#697 » by mcscotty » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:59 am

mcscotty wrote:Jazz win and knock us down to the 9th seed.......damn. :banghead:


Clippers lose and we're back in 8th :D
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Post#698 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:29 am

myersia wrote:Why didn’t we sign boogie?!


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Chill we'll get him next year

everyone be like - he's a nut cancer etc

Yeh but he still produce 20-8-5 etc still gonna be one of If not best centers in the NBA

We need to get him if he comes cheap
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Post#699 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:30 am

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mcscotty wrote:Jazz win and knock us down to the 9th seed.......damn. :banghead:


Clippers lose and we're back in 8th :D


That's the plan all the long - just wait for the clippers to lose and we'll be 8th seed facing GSW first round :)

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Post#700 » by Kilroy » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:59 am

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TyCobb wrote:Why can't Anthony Davis win? Holy crap.


My theory based on watching a total of 0 Pelicans games is that 1.) Gentry sucks ass and 2.) AD doesn't make teammates better


They're terrible defensively... Teams are simply outscoring them and making it look easy, honestly.

I've watched several of their games and AD's a trip... I'll go away thinking he had a good but not special performance, then I'll check the box score and see that he had monster numbers... He makes putting up the numbers he is, look crazy easy, but it just doesn't seem to mean a whole lot to whether the team wins or loses...
I think he's making it easier for his team... I do think they play better with him than without. But yeah, it's one of the bigger mysteries to me this season...
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