Lakers Trade IDEAS

[loveshaq786]

send AD, Nunn and Beverly... for bojan, Stewart, saddiq bey, and two picks

with trade exception.. we can get Dennis Smith Jr for free

trade Westbrook and four picks... for KD and seth

[loveshaq786]

how likely is it to trade.... AD, Beverly, and nunn for capela, Murray, and Collins? or AD and nunn for Collins and Murray?

[TylersLakers]

Do we want the antisemite flat earth crazy train Kyrie? Can we entertain the idea of him on the court? I’m not sure if I could.

Russ for Irving. Both teams have incentive. Shrugs.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7621798

Please keep Kyrie away from this team. Please.

Yep. I'm completely off the Kyrie train. This dude doesn't care about basketball in the slightest. I don't care about his beliefs and everything else. I care about his want to play basketball and it's clearly not there.

If he wants to play for the Lakers so bad, he can sign for a MLE in the off-season and play on 1 year deals.

[Pythagoras]

We should gauge the Bulls interest in moving off DeRozan and Vucevic. They may be willing to think about tearing it down.

Westbrook + Christie + 2 unprotected 1sts + a pick swap for DeRozan and Vuc.

[zuju]

how likely is it to trade.... AD, Beverly, and nunn for capela, Murray, and Collins? or AD and nunn for Collins and Murray?

This was a trade I thought when I first consider trading AD as an option. But Murray is likely not available in this trade. I'd rather look at Hunter.

Yet, I still don't see trading AD as a good option at this point. AD is not a Top 5 player anymore. AD is not a cornerstone you build around after LBJ's era. The question to me is : Who can you get for trading AD? Is this guy a cornerstone or will this guy be better than AD in the long run? Very much like the PAu gasol trade. Did Grizzle made a bad trade. They simply trade a star player in Pau to a future star player in Marc Gasol.

There are two route you have to consider going before making a trade. Route 1: Keep the team competitive for deep playoff runs (win now mode) or Route 2: Trade for the future. Is there a way to make Route 1 & 2 happen at the same time? You have to have a great and smart GM to evaluate players and make trades. Sorry, Pelinka is not one of them.

For Route 1, very likely you have to trade for some great players in return for AD.
Cornerstone level players : Luka, Embiid, Jokic, Giannis => Extremely unrealistic to obtain.

Star level players: KD, Beal, Lavine, Demar, Kyrie, Butler, Ingram, Tatum, J. Brown

- KD: Is he really better than AD? The last 2 season, KD played 35 and 55 games respectively while AD played 36 and 40 games for the same period. KD is offensive oriented and AD plays both ends of the floor. AD is much younger and KD is already regressing. KD is not a cornerstone either. He never lead a team to champion. Warriors was a Champion before he joined them.

- Beal, Lavine, Demar, Butler, J.Brown: They are not as good as AD or they have similar impact to the game at best.

- Ingram and Tatum: their respective team are not gonna trade them for AD. They are up and coming young stars.

- Kyrie : Keep him away from the team. Toxic.

For route 2, you have to trade for some young players who have the potential to grown into star. If the player is obviously a future star, It will be hard to trade. Or they could trade for picks . The downside would be that Lakers may have to tank for some time before a young star arrive the team.

AD is the biggest asset the team has. They have to be very careful with him. I would keep him at least for this season instead of making panic moves to blow the team up in the mid-season.

[TylersLakers]

We should gauge the Bulls interest in moving off DeRozan and Vucevic. They may be willing to think about tearing it down.

Westbrook + Christie + 2 unprotected 1sts + a pick swap for DeRozan and Vuc.

I honestly think this is the reason why the Lakers are being patient with deals. I've been eyeing up Chicago as a blow it up team since the start of the season. They're below .500 and their schedule in the next 2-3 weeks is absolutely brutal. If they don't come out of that within close range of .500, they have to think about blowing it up. We have the ability to take contracts off their hands with the Westbrook contract.

I would also do everything imaginable to get Caruso back. The Lakers front office has to know they f**ed that up. Getting Caruso back would really help with fan engagement and correcting a clear mistake they made 2 seasons ago.

So here's some deals I'd do with Chicago:

A) Do they really want the next 5 years of Zach Lavine? Any buyers remorse?
B) Any buyers remorse on Lonzo?

We'd have the ability to take on both of those deals. So let's start with that.

LaVine, Ball, Caruso for Westbrook, Nunn, Gabriel, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
DeRozan, Vucevic for Westbrook, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
LaVine, Vucevic for Westbrook, Nunn, 2 1st rounders

They would have the ability to clear their cap sheet pretty quickly in any sort of a trade with us if they're having any sort of remorse with LaVine, Ball or just want to send DeRozan home.

[loveshaq786]

LaVine, Vucevic, caruso for Westbrook, Beverly Nunn, 2 1st rounders

I definitely prefer Derozan over LaVine tho

I'd consider trading LaVine, Christie for duarte (or Benedict) and turner .... or for Beal or harden

[Pythagoras]

LaVine, Ball, Caruso for Westbrook, Nunn, Gabriel, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
DeRozan, Vucevic for Westbrook, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
LaVine, Vucevic for Westbrook, Nunn, 2 1st rounders

I’d be pretty happy with any of those deals honestly.

[tamaraw08]

We should gauge the Bulls interest in moving off DeRozan and Vucevic. They may be willing to think about tearing it down.

Westbrook + Christie + 2 unprotected 1sts + a pick swap for DeRozan and Vuc.

I honestly think this is the reason why the Lakers are being patient with deals. I've been eyeing up Chicago as a blow it up team since the start of the season. They're below .500 and their schedule in the next 2-3 weeks is absolutely brutal. If they don't come out of that within close range of .500, they have to think about blowing it up. We have the ability to take contracts off their hands with the Westbrook contract.

I would also do everything imaginable to get Caruso back. The Lakers front office has to know they f**ed that up. Getting Caruso back would really help with fan engagement and correcting a clear mistake they made 2 seasons ago.

So here's some deals I'd do with Chicago:

A) Do they really want the next 5 years of Zach Lavine? Any buyers remorse?
B) Any buyers remorse on Lonzo?

We'd have the ability to take on both of those deals. So let's start with that.

LaVine, Ball, Caruso for Westbrook, Nunn, Gabriel, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
DeRozan, Vucevic for Westbrook, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
LaVine, Vucevic for Westbrook, Nunn, 2 1st rounders

They would have the ability to clear their cap sheet pretty quickly in any sort of a trade with us if they're having any sort of remorse with LaVine, Ball or just want to send DeRozan home.

OMG, no more Lonzo Ball. If Davis is Glass , Lonzo is Wafer Thin Ball. Have like a relatively ONE healthy season and this is the only ultimately reason why they’ll try to get rid of him. Lavine is also dealing with Knee issues, the only players I like is Vucevic and Caruso.

[loveshaq786]

Juan, jones, Nunn, Beverly.... randle and a 1st

Westbrook, Christie, 3 1sts.... for KD

[Eric Bieniemy]

Beverley and Nunn for Svi Mykhailiuk, Fournier, one of NYs lower valued firsts.

-- Good for Lakers because they gain shooting and a first round draft pick.
-- Bad for Lakers because Fournier's nearly 20 million dollar salary severely cuts into next year's capspace, and they lose Beverley's grit.

-- Good for Knicks because they save 20 mill in salary for next year to comfortably resign Reddish and their other free agents.
-- Bad for Knicks because they lose one of their many picks to save money and don't gain any player assets.

[stan francisco]

Beverly and Nunn play something that resembles defense. Svi? Fournier? One-way players are not my thing, as much as I’d like to see Svi back…

[MAMBAEMD]

And Fournier has a horrendous contract. No thanks.

[fuzzy1]

Hawks fan here,

I think I read some potential AD to ATL trades up earlier but wanted to see where your heads were at.

For an AD deal I think any of these players could be traded: Collins, Hunter, Capela, Bogdanavic, Okongwu, Jalen Johnson, picks (we're out a few but have the Kings pick if they make the playoffs).

Here are a couple potential deals:
AD for Capela, Hunter, 2 (?) picks. We move AD to C next to Collins, you guys move Bron to the 4 and get a starting 3 and 5 in return.

The full youth deal: Collins, Hunter, Okongwu, 1 pick for AD. I think you'd have to ship a filler contract to IND or SA to take on Hunter's deal since he got extended.

Collins, Capela, 2 picks for AD?

Lots of possibilities. Question is who do you want and then we can try to piece them together.

[loveshaq786]

I'd demand Murray

Murray and Collins

[Pythagoras]

Hawks fan here,

I think I read some potential AD to ATL trades up earlier but wanted to see where your heads were at.

For an AD deal I think any of these players could be traded: Collins, Hunter, Capela, Bogdanavic, Okongwu, Jalen Johnson, picks (we're out a few but have the Kings pick if they make the playoffs).

Here are a couple potential deals:
AD for Capela, Hunter, 2 (?) picks. We move AD to C next to Collins, you guys move Bron to the 4 and get a starting 3 and 5 in return.

The full youth deal: Collins, Hunter, Okongwu, 1 pick for AD. I think you'd have to ship a filler contract to IND or SA to take on Hunter's deal since he got extended.

Collins, Capela, 2 picks for AD?

Lots of possibilities. Question is who do you want and then we can try to piece them together.

If the Lakers were moving AD, I’d say they’d need a boat load of picks, because they’re full on rebuilding. You’re not retooling around Lebron (who’s still good, but probably not as good as AD anymore) and Westbrook.

Guys like Capela and Collins hold no interest to me.

[loveshaq786]

I would agree unless we can contend, still

KD means contention still.... I wish there was a way to get more picks... to send off 4 FRPs and Westbrook for KD

[Doug_12]

We should gauge the Bulls interest in moving off DeRozan and Vucevic. They may be willing to think about tearing it down.

Westbrook + Christie + 2 unprotected 1sts + a pick swap for DeRozan and Vuc.

I honestly think this is the reason why the Lakers are being patient with deals. I've been eyeing up Chicago as a blow it up team since the start of the season. They're below .500 and their schedule in the next 2-3 weeks is absolutely brutal. If they don't come out of that within close range of .500, they have to think about blowing it up. We have the ability to take contracts off their hands with the Westbrook contract.

I would also do everything imaginable to get Caruso back. The Lakers front office has to know they f**ed that up. Getting Caruso back would really help with fan engagement and correcting a clear mistake they made 2 seasons ago.

So here's some deals I'd do with Chicago:

A) Do they really want the next 5 years of Zach Lavine? Any buyers remorse?
B) Any buyers remorse on Lonzo?

We'd have the ability to take on both of those deals. So let's start with that.

LaVine, Ball, Caruso for Westbrook, Nunn, Gabriel, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
DeRozan, Vucevic for Westbrook, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
LaVine, Vucevic for Westbrook, Nunn, 2 1st rounders

They would have the ability to clear their cap sheet pretty quickly in any sort of a trade with us if they're having any sort of remorse with LaVine, Ball or just want to send DeRozan home.

Actually I'd do a
Caruso, Ball, Vucevic
for
Westbrook, Nunn, Beverley + 2 1sts

That'd address a lot of our gaps: It would provide us proper perimeter defense and some shooting, balanced in the starting lineup immediately. Something like this:
Ball/Schröder
Caruso/Lonnie Walker
James/Reaves/Troy Brown
Davis/Wenyen/Ryan
Vucevic/Bryant/Jones

Not a contender, but I think it's a PO team (contrary to our current lineup) and w/ the proper forward pick-up from the buyout market, it can be a contender.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Quickley, Fournier, and Mykhailiuk to the Lakers for three expiring contracts (Beverley, Nunn, and Anderson)

-- Knicks do it to dump Fournier's contract at the price of Quickley.
-- Lakers do it to improve shooting at the price of losing two-thirds of capspace for next year.

PG - Reaves - Westbrook
SG - Walker - Quickley
C - Davis - Bryant
PF - James - Gabriel
SF - Fournier - Mykhailiuk

You're welcome.

[loveshaq786]

if CHA is trying to shed salary

beverly and nunn... for terry rozier would make sense. He is tough, can shoot, and defend decently. This helps us immediately. I'd also look into any other players that are good on teams that need to get rid of contracts. Collins is another guy that comes to mind but is not as impactful as rozier. Also Buddy Hield


I also think the time to trade AD is NOWWW...

WE should trade AD, jones, and juan... for turner, TJ, duarte, Benedict. Indiana get a superstar next to his home city to pair with Haliburton. If they dont want to include Benedict or Duarte, i would demand one with an extra pick or 2


If are still considering trading our picks for talent with westbrook... i think derozan and vucevic bring more value than turner and Buddy