2018 Trade Ideas thread

[TylersLakers]

If we were to get Kawhi I'm 99% sure both Lebron and George will follow soon after.

I'm not on the Randle wagon, never was....his skillset is limited in today's NBA, I don't see a whole lot of winning teams where his game could work out, but one of them is definitely San Antonio. We all know Pop loves him, unfortunately sign and trading his ass won't be enough, it pains me to say this but we need to include Ingram.
Randle will have 0 problems to agreeing with a S&T and play for Pop, as long as it's getting him paid.

Randle/Ingram for a disgruntled Kawhi, the Spurs can't say no....I'd even reckon we could make them take Deng as well if we add an incentive or two, or simply bluff on Kawhi's impending FA. He has a year left on his contract, the Spurs can't ask for the moon here.


We'd still have Ball/Kuzma/Hart, plus possibly Lopez since the room exception is still there...plus the afromentioned 3 super stars.
Ring chasers would walk to LA and play for free if it was possible, that 7 man foundation + the right pieces are more than enough to contend from year one.

We don't trade for someone who is going to be a free agent next summer. What happened with PG? Laker fans were dying to trade for him last summer and we waited and we're in a perfect position to sign him without losing any assets.

We can sign Kawhi next summer without losing assets.

And what if Paul George signs with Philly or OKC? Then do we trust that theory again?

[larry14r]

If we were to get Kawhi I'm 99% sure both Lebron and George will follow soon after.

I'm not on the Randle wagon, never was....his skillset is limited in today's NBA, I don't see a whole lot of winning teams where his game could work out, but one of them is definitely San Antonio. We all know Pop loves him, unfortunately sign and trading his ass won't be enough, it pains me to say this but we need to include Ingram.
Randle will have 0 problems to agreeing with a S&T and play for Pop, as long as it's getting him paid.

Randle/Ingram for a disgruntled Kawhi, the Spurs can't say no....I'd even reckon we could make them take Deng as well if we add an incentive or two, or simply bluff on Kawhi's impending FA. He has a year left on his contract, the Spurs can't ask for the moon here.


We'd still have Ball/Kuzma/Hart, plus possibly Lopez since the room exception is still there...plus the afromentioned 3 super stars.
Ring chasers would walk to LA and play for free if it was possible, that 7 man foundation + the right pieces are more than enough to contend from year one.

We don't trade for someone who is going to be a free agent next summer. What happened with PG? Laker fans were dying to trade for him last summer and we waited and we're in a perfect position to sign him without losing any assets.

We can sign Kawhi next summer without losing assets.

And what if Paul George signs with Philly or OKC? Then do we trust that theory again?

It doesn't matter what we do we're potentially F'ed either way.

[larry14r]

Yeah, but the Spurs can say F the Lakers and send Kawhi east because they don't give a F about what he wants.

Lakers and Spurs are historical rivals.

It really would be something if they make a big trade like that.

Cavs just made a trade to Boston whom they beat in the ECF. At the end of the day the Spurs are smart enough to take the best offer. People who care about rivalry when making a trade shouldn't have a job.

Which will most likely come from the Sixers.

[Dloading99]

Yo

let's Be real in here. keep everything 100. Only trade Spurs would make for Kawaii would be Ben Simmons. Only trade Spurs would make for Kawaii with Lakers would be Brandon Ingram. No they don't care about Lonzo Ball he can't shoot. Brandon Ingram is a price cause he can score in this league and you can put him with other people.

So only way we get Kawaii is if we sign him. I don't see the Spurs trading a player like Kawaii Leonard. to be smart about it you have to think about a team who has picks. a team like the Phoenix Suns would they trade their number one pick and a player like Devin Booker or TJ Warren.

Keep in mind they already have Josh Jackson who is on the rise would they trade him. you have to think about teams who have pieces. if the Clippers somehow got the number one pick would they trade that with a Tobias Harris.


Now a player Like Deandre Ayton who is from the Islands and can be the next Tim Duncan. you see where I'm going the spurs would feel Comfortable with that. a Josh Jackson Deandre Ayton type of Trade.


The Lakers need to Focus on Paul George that's what they can get. and see if Lebron James is coming. We can talk about this until the Cows come home but this team all hinges on what Lonzo Ball does this summer does he work on his jumper. and we will all be in here after the first game of summer league to see if Lonzo Ball has done anything to fix that jumper. Lonzo Kyle Kuzma and Brandon Ingram there development is what matters. and what happens with Randle. that will decide how good this team is.



2nd year of Summer league I don't care who you are I will know if you are a baller or if you suck. because second year of summer league to be a star you have to be great and play like a superstar second year of summer league.

Klay Thompson did it balled. Deangelo Russell did it balled. Brandon Ingram did it balled. Stephen Curry did it balled. Kevin Martin did it balled. Jamal Murray did it balled. summer league we just want to see Lonzo be aggressive show what's he added to his game and show that he has improved. we'll know it right after the first game. I expect Kuzma to put up 25 a game.

[larry14r]

Yo

let's Be real in here. keep everything 100. Only trade Spurs would make for Kawaii would be Ben Simmons. Only trade Spurs would make for Kawaii with Lakers would be Brandon Ingram. No they don't care about Lonzo Ball he can't shoot. Brandon Ingram is a price cause he can score in this league and you can put him with other people.

So only way we get Kawaii is if we sign him. I don't see the Spurs trading a player like Kawaii Leonard. to be smart about it you have to think about a team who has picks. a team like the Phoenix Suns would they trade their number one pick and a player like Devin Booker or TJ Warren.

Keep in mind they already have Josh Jackson who is on the rise would they trade him. you have to think about teams who have pieces. if the Clippers somehow got the number one pick would they trade that with a Tobias Harris.


Now a player Like Deandre Ayton who is from the Islands and can be the next Tim Duncan. you see where I'm going the spurs would feel Comfortable with that. a Josh Jackson Deandre Ayton type of Trade.


The Lakers need to Focus on Paul George that's what they can get. and see if Lebron James is coming. We can talk about this until the Cows come home but this team all hinges on what Lonzo Ball does this summer does he work on his jumper. and we will all be in here after the first game of summer league to see if Lonzo Ball has done anything to fix that jumper. Lonzo Kyle Kuzma and Brandon Ingram there development is what matters. and what happens with Randle. that will decide how good this team is.



2nd year of Summer league I don't care who you are I will know if you are a baller or if you suck. because second year of summer league to be a star you have to be great and play like a superstar second year of summer league.

Klay Thompson did it balled. Deangelo Russell did it balled. Brandon Ingram did it balled. Stephen Curry did it balled. Kevin Martin did it balled. Jamal Murray did it balled. summer league we just want to see Lonzo be aggressive show what's he added to his game and show that he has improved. we'll know it right after the first game. I expect Kuzma to put up 25 a game.

Magic already said neither Kuzma or Ball will play in summer league this summer.

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/04/13/lonzo-ball-kyle-kuzma-will-not-play-summer-league-magic-johnson-says/

[BBBKobe]

If we were to get Kawhi I'm 99% sure both Lebron and George will follow soon after.

I'm not on the Randle wagon, never was....his skillset is limited in today's NBA, I don't see a whole lot of winning teams where his game could work out, but one of them is definitely San Antonio. We all know Pop loves him, unfortunately sign and trading his ass won't be enough, it pains me to say this but we need to include Ingram.
Randle will have 0 problems to agreeing with a S&T and play for Pop, as long as it's getting him paid.

Randle/Ingram for a disgruntled Kawhi, the Spurs can't say no....I'd even reckon we could make them take Deng as well if we add an incentive or two, or simply bluff on Kawhi's impending FA. He has a year left on his contract, the Spurs can't ask for the moon here.


We'd still have Ball/Kuzma/Hart, plus possibly Lopez since the room exception is still there...plus the afromentioned 3 super stars.
Ring chasers would walk to LA and play for free if it was possible, that 7 man foundation + the right pieces are more than enough to contend from year one.

We don't trade for someone who is going to be a free agent next summer. What happened with PG? Laker fans were dying to trade for him last summer and we waited and we're in a perfect position to sign him without losing any assets.

We can sign Kawhi next summer without losing assets.

And what if Paul George signs with Philly or OKC? Then do we trust that theory again?

And what if we traded for him and he decided to walk to Philly this summer?

Losing assets isn’t in Rob’s interest.

[One Love]

This offseason is going to come down to TWO things... PG & the Young Bucks working... Ball, Kuzz & Ingram won’t be playing Simmer League (Magic)... Maybe Hart, Zubac & Bryant with our 2 picks... Everything else is gravy baby...

[Dloading99]

I feel Very Passionate about this.

Wow I had no idea Lonzo was not playing summer league. Why is that? it's not like he stormed through the League and was Rookie of the year.

That's been the problem with Magic. babying these guys don't play this game. you don't need to play. and then we all get pissed when Lonzo decides he's not playing.

Why does Magic continue with this? what's the problem with Lonzo that he can't play a summer league? what am I missing here? Does Magic just think he doesn't need it?

Now I know some of you in here are going to say Dloading he won Summer league MVP. Yes

But the point is for him to work on things in a game setting that he can't in a preseason or regular season game.

Things like Having Lonzo continue to shoot the ball and be the aggressive lead guy. with other stars not having to feed them why not let him be the guy get that confidence and bring that into training camp?


Year two summer league is where we see what guys are the stars when the just score and play like stars in that setting. I understand him only playing one game and bailing like some guys do but come on get out there. especially after the way he finished.


Ingram I understand he's a year three guy. but Kuzma and Lonzo no way they should be out there. all the other guys played summer league year two. Dearen Fox will be out there so will Josh Jackson. and when you look at how Jayson Tatum is playing it pisses me off more and more. Let us see Lonzo Ball play great and score and show us a great player so we won't be kicking ourselves all summer thinking what we could've had in Jayson Tatum and Donovan Mitchell. cause I' aint even gonna front. Damn we should've picked one of those players. Tatum got one workout and we couldn't see what the Celtics saw really. The dude looks Like Paul Pierce with the Atletism. Damn. Yeah the Celtics look like the New Warriors.

[Michael Lucky]

Lonzo seems to be picking up injuries left and right so I'm not all that bummed that he won't be playing summer league. On the other hand I am not sure why Kuzma wouldn't be.

[Dloading99]

Yeah I read that article.

I understand Brandon Ingram needing to get in the locker room. But Why Lonzo. with my experience scouting looking at players in the NBA it's not that smart for guys to really get that buff and get in the weight room. Point Guards that is.

I point to Mike Bibby. he was a lot lighter better when he could get around on the court. when he started to buff out it took away from some of his quickness as a guard. Curry was able to get a little buffer but his was more on his shooting and continuing to work on that.

Usually I like the guards to be kind of on the side of quicker kind of scrawnyier You kind of lose a little as a shooter when you continue to have guys get all buffed out. Rashard Lewis destroyed hiself.


I would like to see Kuzma at Summer league in a lead role. But looking at Taytum I just want Lonzo out there. I want to see what the guy is working on. the article was kind of weird. Lonzo is like if the Lakers want me out there I'll be out there. no you should be out there.

Guys like Kobe would be there and say shut up and I'm playing. We've got to set a tone that these guys should always wanting to be playing basketball. if anything you should be pissed how we ended the season you should be chomping at the bit for any type of live Basketball. The front office the coaches have to demand greatness. but the attitude is show up when you want. it's like okay we'll they'll be good when their good.

We should be what the Celtics are and I have no disagreement with that. Look at what they did after pierce and Garnett. Rozier Taytum Brown Smart signed Horford signed Hayward. they have Trade Chips. I hate that team but Damn they are doing it the right way. we need to start developing our young squad like that. and if you want a Cohesive young unit all those guys Lonzo and Kuzma Bryant should all be playing summer league together.

[SlimShady83]

Why is everyone saying Lonzo needs to hit the weight room? Think his fine the way he is. Just needs more confidence having that kind of pressure that he had coming into the league is a lot for anyone too handle

[Michael Lucky]

Lakers and Spurs are historical rivals.

It really would be something if they make a big trade like that.

Cavs just made a trade to Boston whom they beat in the ECF. At the end of the day the Spurs are smart enough to take the best offer. People who care about rivalry when making a trade shouldn't have a job.

Which will most likely come from the Sixers.

Maybe, but just because one team has the most to give, doesn't mean they'll will do so.

[TylersLakers]

I feel Very Passionate about this.

Wow I had no idea Lonzo was not playing summer league. Why is that? it's not like he stormed through the League and was Rookie of the year.

That's been the problem with Magic. babying these guys don't play this game. you don't need to play. and then we all get pissed when Lonzo decides he's not playing.

Why does Magic continue with this? what's the problem with Lonzo that he can't play a summer league? what am I missing here? Does Magic just think he doesn't need it?

Now I know some of you in here are going to say Dloading he won Summer league MVP. Yes

But the point is for him to work on things in a game setting that he can't in a preseason or regular season game.

Things like Having Lonzo continue to shoot the ball and be the aggressive lead guy. with other stars not having to feed them why not let him be the guy get that confidence and bring that into training camp?


Year two summer league is where we see what guys are the stars when the just score and play like stars in that setting. I understand him only playing one game and bailing like some guys do but come on get out there. especially after the way he finished.


Ingram I understand he's a year three guy. but Kuzma and Lonzo no way they should be out there. all the other guys played summer league year two. Dearen Fox will be out there so will Josh Jackson. and when you look at how Jayson Tatum is playing it pisses me off more and more. Let us see Lonzo Ball play great and score and show us a great player so we won't be kicking ourselves all summer thinking what we could've had in Jayson Tatum and Donovan Mitchell. cause I' aint even gonna front. Damn we should've picked one of those players. Tatum got one workout and we couldn't see what the Celtics saw really. The dude looks Like Paul Pierce with the Atletism. Damn. Yeah the Celtics look like the New Warriors.

I'm not surprised. Like it or not, this organization is extremely cautious with these young guys. Why? I have no idea. Maybe they don't want any additional risk to hinder their development? But they've taken this approach ever since Brandon Ingram suffered a cramp in a summer league game and they decided to shut him down after that.

Personally, I don't agree with it. But I don't run the organization.

[One Love]

Tough to recruit PG, LBJ & others by saying come play with our Summer League squad... Magic is selling the league and fans on the fact the “kids are legit”... Do you think Tatum & Mitchell will play...

Lakeshow Baby...

[No name]

Lonzo needs all sorts of work in the gym and in the kitchen. I'm not suggesting he go on big bulk but at 20, that is the time to devolop ligament resilience and core strength. It will make the rest of his career easier.

[kobe808lak]

With how often Lonzo was hurt in his rookie year, I'd prefer just to have him healthy week 1 of the regular season. He would probably turn an ankle in summer league with what we've seen so far.

[dockingsched]

I remember right after the season, Mike Truddell was on one of the local radio shows and explained how the front office is prioritizing Lonzo’s body above everything else. From avoiding injury, being able to draw contract, being able to absorb punishment, and just overall being less prone to injury were some of the reasons given for why that’s a priority and why he’ll need to miss summer league as a result. I think it’s totally the right call.

[Slink]

I remember right after the season, Mike Truddell was on one of the local radio shows and explained how the front office is prioritizing Lonzo’s body above everything else. From avoiding injury, being able to draw contract, being able to absorb punishment, and just overall being less prone to injury were some of the reasons given for why that’s a priority and why he’ll need to miss summer league as a result. I think it’s totally the right call.

Only thing that's missing is re-working his shot.

[Ball so hard]

With how often Lonzo was hurt in his rookie year, I'd prefer just to have him healthy week 1 of the regular season. He would probably turn an ankle in summer league with what we've seen so far.

There's also the possibility he could turn his ankle in practice, playing in a pickup game over the summer, moving a box in his home, etc. By consciously trying to avoid an injury is the easiest way to actually obtain an injury sometimes. I understand what they're trying to do, but I don't necessarily agree with it.

[Ball so hard]

Tough to recruit PG, LBJ & others by saying come play with our Summer League squad... Magic is selling the league and fans on the fact the “kids are legit”... Do you think Tatum & Mitchell will play...

Lakeshow Baby...

I'm not buying this one bit, especially with regard to Lonzo. Tatum and Mitchell were studs so you can't really compare the situations. For much of the year, Lonzo was a bum to a large extent and could serve to sell himself to the league more by actually playing, even if it's in the summer league against scrubs off the street.