Official Transaction Ideas thread

[Jetset]

I don't think the #2 pick is to any value to the Wolves unless Irving is sitting on the board. The Wolves just drafted Wesley Johnson who had a respectable rookie season and Derrick Williams has said he wants to play SF in the NBA. The Wolves have enough wings they need a big man, and I don't see any teams with young big men vying for the pick in this weak draft. As many have pointed out Gasol's game doesn't rely on athleticism so he can easily play a lot longer regardless of age and still continue to be efficient. A Love/Gasol front court with Rubio running PG would be a beautiful thing and would spells a bright future for the Wolves.

I guess it comes down to how willing the Wolves would be to parting with the pick.

[Jajwanda]

If there is no MLE wouldn't that likely mean the Lakers will be one of the more attractive destinations to players not returning to their current teams?

- Could the Lakers acquire say Rashard Lewis, Rasual Butler, and guys of that ilk on levels around say 1-1.5m a year?

I think Shannon Brown is probably back if there is no MLE.

[Jetset]

1. There will be an MLE

2. There's a level of uncertainty right now, as no one knows how the Lakers will be with Brown and the new staff, this might deter F.A.'s from coming here. Who knows we may go back to dominating the league or may play ourselves into oblivion.

[Doormatt]

I don't think the #2 pick is to any value to the Wolves unless Irving is sitting on the board. The Wolves just drafted Wesley Johnson who had a respectable rookie season and Derrick Williams has said he wants to play SF in the NBA. The Wolves have enough wings they need a big man, and I don't see any teams with young big men vying for the pick in this weak draft. As many have pointed out Gasol's game doesn't rely on athleticism so he can easily play a lot longer regardless of age and still continue to be efficient. A Love/Gasol front court with Rubio running PG would be a beautiful thing and would spells a bright future for the Wolves.

I guess it comes down to how willing the Wolves would be to parting with the pick.

how does a #2 value not hold any value to them??? they could trade it for a younger player on a better contract than gasol.

and they dont have to draft dwill. they could trade down, or just draft kanter. they dont need gasol, they are building for the future, and gasol's contract eats up a lotta cap as opposed to a high pick on a rookie deal.

what would a frontcourt of love/gasol with rubio win them? an award for no defense played? and how motivated is gasol going to be playing in Minnesota? do you think hes gonna be happy about that? we couldnt even get him up for the 2nd round of the playoffs, what hope do the wolves have?

[Doormatt]

an MLE isnt assured. the owners want to cut back spending, so im pretty sure the first thing they would attempt to cut would be a provision that allows teams over the cap to add more salary.

and i dont want shannon brown back. id rather have a rookie take his minutes or just spread them around to the rest of the guys.

[The_Trade_Seer]

It certainly looks as if the Lakers as we knew them are history and that the Jim Buss lead Lakers reign has just begun for real.

It may not be the Lakers who will be looking to trade Kobe, but Kobe who demands a trade now that Brown has been hired. Believe me, I don't think that is going to happen and I could see Brown being fired after a rough start before Kobe gets traded ... but ... I am thinking Kobe may be looking at this signing of Brown as a slap in the face.

Everyone knew that Kobe wanted Shaw and would have accepted Adelman as a second option, but Mike Brown? Wow.

Kobe may also be looking at this as a very bad omen, an omen that says the Lakers are now fully under the control of Jim Buss and that they are going into rebuilding mode, made in the imagine of Jim so that their next title is credited to him.

Kobe made it very clear that he wanted to come back with the same team, the same players and Shaw (baby Phil) running the triangle. Hiring Brown is a huge change and could be compared player wise to a big trade involving Pau, Odom and/or Artest.

I can definitely see why Kobe would be "confused" right now!

There are some big questions that need answering, questions such as:

1.) Is Jim Buss bent on making this Bynum's team and if so, will Kobe want out?

2.) Is Jim Buss dedicated to a complete rebuild and getting rid of the old guard of Pau, Odom and Artest and if so, will Kobe want out?

The T'Wolves making the #2 pick available is a scary thing for these Kobe lead Lakers as well. While I think the Wolves would love to land Bynum (and Ebanks as a throw in) in a package featuring the #2 pick, Martell Webster, Nikola Pekovic, Darko Millicic and the rights to Ricky Rubio, I have a feeling that Jim Buss may have his sights on that #2 pick and Rubio for some veterans.

It wouldn’t shock me to see the Lakers trade Pau and some cap filler like Ebanks and Caracter for a T’Wolves package featuring the #2 pick, rights to Rubio, Darko, Pekovic, Webster and the expiring contract of Telfair.

If such happens, we will know the rebuild is full on and can expect to see Odom and Artest traded next. Possibly together to the 76’ers for Iggy, or with a handful of 2nd round picks to the Bobcats for the expiring contracts of Pryzbilla and Mo Pete as well as the #9 and #19 picks, or even to the Wizards with a handful of #2 picks for the expiring contracts of Yi Jianlin, Josh Howard, young stud Andray Blatche and the #18 pick.

If the above goes down, where will that leave Kobe?

Imagine for a moment if the Wolves and Wizards trades go down … the Lakers lineup would look as follows:

PG: Rubio/Fisher/Blake
SG: Webster
SF: Williams (#2)/Barnes/Walton
PF: Blatche/Vucevic (#18)
C: Bynum/Pekovic/Milicic

I think it would be obvious to anyone that Kobe would NOT be interested in playing on the above team and just as obvious that Jim Buss would be looking for hometown boys and ready to break out stars Demar Derozan or James Harden.

If that happens, a Kobe trade is not out of the realm of possibility though it would almost assuredly have to be a 3 team deal as Kobe would not want to play in Toronto or Memphis, nor would he want to join Durant’s team in OKC. Hmmm, on second thought Kobe may be up for playing with Durant, Westbrook, Perkins and Ibaka after all as that is a title contender without any doubt.

Anyways, a straight up trade with the Thunder would look like: Kobe for Harden, Sefolosha, Collison, the expiring contract of Nazr Mohammed and the #24 pick.

A 3 way deal that lands the Lakers DeRozan would probably look like:

LAKERS TRADE: Kobe Bryant and (4) 2nd round picks
LAKERS RECEIVE: DeRozan, Billups, #17 pick and the exp. contracts of Azuibike and Mason

KNICKS TRADE: Billups, Fields, Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, exp. contracts of Azuibike & Mason, & pick #17
KNICKS RECEIVE: Kobe Bryant and Linas Kleiza

RAPTORS TRADE: Derozan and Kleiza
RAPTORS RECEIVE: Fields, Douglas, Walker, Turiaf and (4) 2nd round picks

Now … I am hoping that Mike Brown with his penchant for defense, trades for Dwight at best and at worst only gets rid of Pau … however now that we have entered the Jim Buss era, anything seems possible.

[So Gutta]

Chill out bro. You're thinking too much.

[TyCobb]

You just traded Kobe. Thanks for slapping us in the face.

[dockingsched]

throwing in all 4 second rounders is a kick to the groin after we're distracted by the slap to the face.

[Doormatt]

that whole deal.... it was just awful.

awful to think about, awful to read.

[Jajwanda]

Lakers improve their offense:

- Jameer Nelson+Ryan Anderson for Lamar Odom
- sign Pat Mills with part of MLE
- part of MLE for Daquan Cook
- TPE in a trade for K-Mart

PG- Nelson, Mills, 2nd rounder
SG- Bryant, Cook
SF- Artest, Barnes
PF- Gasol, Anderson
C- Bynum, K-Mart

Much improved back court with Nelson in there and an equal front court.

[Doormatt]

No thanks, I don't care for jameer. Even tho I think the trade is good value, I like what Lamar brings us. Plus Nelson is 28, he's not gonna get any better.

[Jajwanda]

Three way trade:

Detroit sends Villanueva to replace Ilyasova.
Lakers send Blake+Walton to Detroit.
Milwaukee sends the Lakers Salmons, while the Lakers take on Maxiell.

Basically the Lakers get Salmons for Blake filling the backup SG/SF hole and opening the PG position for acquisitions through the TPE and MLE. Team would be down to two needs. Simple?

[Doormatt]

For sure I'd do that, I think salmons, even on his contract, is a good player. Good defender, can create his own shot, an isn't terribly inefficient. If he can get back to his Chicago form, I like it.

Don't see how it's gonna work, but I like it. I don't see the bucks having any interest in CV soooo.

[Doormatt]

Just checked and turns out Salmons is more efficient than I thought, which makes this deal even better.

Not sure how we can turn Blake + Walton into Salmons, but that is a great deal imo.

[Imadogg]

Just checked and turns out Salmons is more efficient than I thought, which makes this deal even better.

Not sure how we can turn Blake + Walton into Salmons, but that is a great deal imo.

Yea no... it's impossible to have a deal where we just give up Blake+Walton...

[The_Trade_Seer]

You just traded Kobe. Thanks for slapping us in the face.

Hahahaha, no I definitely didn't just trade Kobe and wouldn't trade Kobe if I was the GM. I'm just a little nervous about the Jim Buss era and know that if players like Kareem, Shaq, Lebron, Joe Montana, Brett Favre and even Wayne Gretzky for goodness sake can be traded, so can Kobe and Jim Buss might be just the guy to entertain such a thought.

Three way trade:<BR itxtNodeId="914"><BR itxtNodeId="913">Detroit sends Villanueva to replace Ilyasova.<BR itxtNodeId="912">Lakers send Blake+Walton to Detroit. <BR itxtNodeId="911">Milwaukee sends the Lakers Salmons, while the Lakers take on Maxiell.<BR itxtNodeId="910"><BR itxtNodeId="909">Basically the Lakers get Salmons for Blake filling the backup SG/SF hole and opening the PG position for acquisitions through the TPE and MLE. Team would be down to two needs. Simple?

That is a very nice trade for us, though three way trades are always tough to orchestrate and I don't think the Bucks go for the deal at all. The Pistons would be okay with it and we would love it but the Bucks balk ... they tried the Charlie V experiment once and I doubt they want a re-do.

Something simpler might be us trading Blake, Walton, Caracter and a 2nd round pick or two for Charlie V, using him as a younger Odom and then trading Odom to the Nuggets for Felton and the #22 pick.

[Doormatt]

Lol@ replacing Odom with Charlie V.

[Jajwanda]

I'll give it a try and add a tougher PF to help out Villanueva and Gasol.

- Denver sends Raymond Felton, 22, 8.2m TPE
- Los Angeles sends Odom, Blake, Walton, 5.3m TPE
- Detroit sends Villanueva, Maxiell

- Denver receives Lamar Odom, TPE
- Lakers receive Villanueva, K-Mart, 22nd overall, Maxiell, Felton, 8.2m TPE
- Detroit receives Blake, Walton, Caracter

At 22 the Lakers draft a SG.

Lakers take on Jordan Farmar with a pick throw in by New Jersey to do so (2nd round). Lakers draft youth at PF/C, combo guard, two European prospects to stash with the second rounders.
The salary in for L.A. this year versus out would be about 6m higher but I've improved avery aspect of the team.

PG- Felton, Farmar, 2nd rounder
SG- Bryant, 22nd overall, 2nd rounder
SF- Artest, Barnes, Ebanks
PF- Gasol, Villanueva, Maxiell
C- Bynum, K-Mart, 2nd

I still have the MLE and a TPE.

[TGW]

^^^Dude, Blake, Walton, and Caracter have NO TRADE VALUE. You may be able to get Travis Outlaw with that package, but I even doubt that.