Why are we targeting lebron?

[leeprettyp]

So LeBron leaks the Irving trade demand to get a trade out first? Seems like more will unravel this week, I don't see how Irving and James play this season together.

Stephen A on his radio show today also said LBJ is pretty much at a "I dont want to see Kyrie" mode. Even quoted that he was told that he wants to beat kyrie a**. That's literately the Shaq and Kobe situation all over again. But in this case the older guy will prevail.

The Cavs should move Kyrie for Wiggins or even to another team willing to give them a really good young player and a lottery pick. He has good value out there. If they catch a desperate team they maybe able to get 2 first rounders for him.

Cleveland needs to get ahead of the rebuild now in my opinion. Trade Love and Kyrie for picks. Move Kyrie to Phoenix for Josh Jackson and another 1st rounder and move Love to the Trailblazers for picks and a young ascending player. That could be good hauls

[leeprettyp]

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[ISayshowmee]

After reading more about how much 'power' Lebron has with the Cavs, I am having second thoughts about bringing him in as a Lakers. Not sure if Lakers has enough room to accomodate this man's ego....his entourage....etc.

Let us go with PG13 and Cousins !!

[NBAWestFan]

Don't want Lebron no way no how.
He is old controlling and has jump ship one too many.

Kyrie don't want him so why would these 19, 20, 21 and 22 years old guy are going to want a 34 year old
guy. He is going to be the know it all that know one wants to be around.

He will ruin chemistry and if he fails to win a title which is most likely because GSW and possibly SA will
be too much.


I like to one day see Giannis, AD, Clay or possibity PG in a Lakers uniform but not Lebron.

[Sushisensei26]

Man Brian Windhorst alone makes me iffy about Lebron. What a diva, everyone knows you're LBJ and Rich Paul coffee guy. But, does he need to make it seem so obvious? He was just on the ESPN 710 radio out here in L.A. crying and whining about this is Kobe fault Kyrie wants to leave, because he had him believing in this "Mamba Mentality" thought process. He also took shots at Stephen A for reporting Kyrie camp knows LBJ and his camp leaked this story to him. He kinda admitted that was the case but was clearly upset by it.

It's wild how a grown man whose won a ring cant make a decision on his own for what he wants for his personal career. At the very least you have to respect that. Kyrie never went public with his trade request, he had a private meeting with the front office.

I heard that interview. That was crazy man. I wish there were some proper hosts on the other side coz Windhorst was frickin pissed off and the hosts kinda backed off instead of going in and letting him meltdown fully. Dude was actually going off against his own colleagues for pointing out the damn obvious thing. He didn't even dispute the fact though. He just said, you think I would have only one source? Lulz.... so much drama.

He says how insulted he felt coz Stephen A questioned whether Lebron leaked this story and then he goes and says that Kyrie is a Kobe follower and he knew that one day the "mamba mentality" would lead Kyrie to where he is today. Wowww. One of the most venomous interviews I've heard recently.

[Penberthy]

Don't want Lebron no way no how.
He is old controlling and has jump ship one too many.

Kyrie don't want him so why would these 19, 20, 21 and 22 years old guy are going to want a 34 year old
guy. He is going to be the know it all that know one wants to be around.

He will ruin chemistry and if he fails to win a title which is most likely because GSW and possibly SA will
be too much.


I like to one day see Giannis, AD, Clay or possibity PG in a Lakers uniform but not Lebron.

I understand your concerns about LBJ, but if he decides to come here at 33/34 it will be with the aim to have a young/good enough squad to let him chill out a bit and ride off into the sunset while still competing for chips for the next 5-6 years. Thanks to ball increasing their value, i think we will be able to dump clarkson for a pick and deng+randle for a pick at the deadline, and if Lebron decides to take a Durant type deal next year, we could realistically have:

Ball
George Hart
Ingram Kuzma
Lebron Nance
Boogie Zu Bryant

George and Boogie will be 28 -entering their prime- going into 2018.

Waiting til 2021 for Giannis, 2020 for AD, and 2019 for Klay, and hoping our young guys can get more than 30 wins by then is not a plan This is the Lakers, we have been in the toilet for 3+ years, we cant wait another 3+ They did the right thing this offseason by not committing to any crazy deals, but next summer its on.

[leeprettyp]

Man Brian Windhorst alone makes me iffy about Lebron. What a diva, everyone knows you're LBJ and Rich Paul coffee guy. But, does he need to make it seem so obvious? He was just on the ESPN 710 radio out here in L.A. crying and whining about this is Kobe fault Kyrie wants to leave, because he had him believing in this "Mamba Mentality" thought process. He also took shots at Stephen A for reporting Kyrie camp knows LBJ and his camp leaked this story to him. He kinda admitted that was the case but was clearly upset by it.

It's wild how a grown man whose won a ring cant make a decision on his own for what he wants for his personal career. At the very least you have to respect that. Kyrie never went public with his trade request, he had a private meeting with the front office.

I heard that interview. That was crazy man. I wish there were some proper hosts at on the other side coz Windhorst was frickin pissed off and the hosts kinda backed off instead of going in and letting him meltdown fully. Dude was actually going off against his own colleagues for pointing out the damn obvious thing. He didn't even dispute the fact though. He just said, you think I would have only one source? Lulz.... so much drama.

He says how insulted he felt coz Stephen A questioned whether Lebron leaked this story and then he goes and says that Kyrie is a Kobe follower and he knew that one day the "mamba mentality" would lead Kyrie to where he is today. Wowww. One of the most venomous interviews I've heard recently.

Guys tend to back off when LZ Granderson and Keyshawn Johnson are there (Both were out today).... Because they don't shy away from the questions that need to be asked. It's easily my favorite show on the local ESPN app.

[Sushisensei26]

Man Brian Windhorst alone makes me iffy about Lebron. What a diva, everyone knows you're LBJ and Rich Paul coffee guy. But, does he need to make it seem so obvious? He was just on the ESPN 710 radio out here in L.A. crying and whining about this is Kobe fault Kyrie wants to leave, because he had him believing in this "Mamba Mentality" thought process. He also took shots at Stephen A for reporting Kyrie camp knows LBJ and his camp leaked this story to him. He kinda admitted that was the case but was clearly upset by it.

It's wild how a grown man whose won a ring cant make a decision on his own for what he wants for his personal career. At the very least you have to respect that. Kyrie never went public with his trade request, he had a private meeting with the front office.

I heard that interview. That was crazy man. I wish there were some proper hosts at on the other side coz Windhorst was frickin pissed off and the hosts kinda backed off instead of going in and letting him meltdown fully. Dude was actually going off against his own colleagues for pointing out the damn obvious thing. He didn't even dispute the fact though. He just said, you think I would have only one source? Lulz.... so much drama.

He says how insulted he felt coz Stephen A questioned whether Lebron leaked this story and then he goes and says that Kyrie is a Kobe follower and he knew that one day the "mamba mentality" would lead Kyrie to where he is today. Wowww. One of the most venomous interviews I've heard recently.

Guys tend to back off when LZ Granderson and Keyshawn Johnson are there (Both were out today).... Because they don't shy away from the questions that need to be asked. It's easily my favorite show on the local ESPN app.

You're right, Key doesn't care. My favorite used to be Max and Marcellus on the local radio but since Max moved to First Take I kinda stopped listening that much.

[leeprettyp]

The thing with me is... Man that Lebron full max is very concerning for me as he's aging... Now we have to pay attention to how the salary cap is slowly decreasing because of these short playoffs. Hopefully that changes as the teams in the West are strengthening their rosters. I respect that big time. But, for now we shouldn't want to be stuck with another maxed out aging star on our roster because of the name. In Kobe case at the very least he already brought us 5 rings and 7 finals appearances, so we dealt with the Kobe Farewell Tour.... Idk if we'd be inclined to do that for Lebron. But then again how bad do we want PG? Because from how the narrative is being presented for him to come here LBJ or another top level star needs to be part of the equation.

[leeprettyp]

I heard that interview. That was crazy man. I wish there were some proper hosts at on the other side coz Windhorst was frickin pissed off and the hosts kinda backed off instead of going in and letting him meltdown fully. Dude was actually going off against his own colleagues for pointing out the damn obvious thing. He didn't even dispute the fact though. He just said, you think I would have only one source? Lulz.... so much drama.

He says how insulted he felt coz Stephen A questioned whether Lebron leaked this story and then he goes and says that Kyrie is a Kobe follower and he knew that one day the "mamba mentality" would lead Kyrie to where he is today. Wowww. One of the most venomous interviews I've heard recently.

Guys tend to back off when LZ Granderson and Keyshawn Johnson are there (Both were out today).... Because they don't shy away from the questions that need to be asked. It's easily my favorite show on the local ESPN app.

You're right, Key doesn't care. My favorite used to be Max and Marcellus on the local radio but since Max moved to First Take I kinda stopped listening that much.

Jorge Sedano (Miami) is normally solid... But, he's very smart about how he walks that company line with colleagues. You can tell he knew to back off and let Windhorst vent.

Fellas if you didnt get a chance to hear and/or a bit interested. It was on the early morning show on ESPN 710 with Keyshawn, Jorge and LZ Granderson... It's a very interesting interview, Windhorst came on right after Stephen A was interviewed on the same show.

[Penberthy]

The thing with me is... Man that Lebron full max is very concerning for me as he's aging... Now we have to pay attention to how the salary cap is slowly decreasing because of these short playoffs. Hopefully that changes as the teams in the West are strengthening their rosters. I respect that big time. But, for now we shouldn't want to be stuck with another maxed out aging star on our roster because of the name. In Kobe case at the very least he already brought us 5 rings and 7 finals appearances, so we dealt with the Kobe Farewell Tour.... Idk if we'd be inclined to do that for Lebron. But then again how bad do we want PG? Because from how the narrative is being presented for him to come here LBJ or another top level star needs to be part of the equation.

Durant just took less than the max, how do you know LBJ wouldn't do the same, especially if it allows him to bring two others like Boogie and PG with him to add to Ball Ingram Nance Kuzma Hart Zu?

[leeprettyp]

The thing with me is... Man that Lebron full max is very concerning for me as he's aging... Now we have to pay attention to how the salary cap is slowly decreasing because of these short playoffs. Hopefully that changes as the teams in the West are strengthening their rosters. I respect that big time. But, for now we shouldn't want to be stuck with another maxed out aging star on our roster because of the name. In Kobe case at the very least he already brought us 5 rings and 7 finals appearances, so we dealt with the Kobe Farewell Tour.... Idk if we'd be inclined to do that for Lebron. But then again how bad do we want PG? Because from how the narrative is being presented for him to come here LBJ or another top level star needs to be part of the equation.

Durant just took less than the max, how do you know LBJ wouldn't do the same, especially if it allows him to bring two others like Boogie and PG with him to add to Ball Ingram Nance Kuzma Hart Zu?

The idea of the 3rd slot is very unrealistic to me. No one is taking Deng contract and giving us an expiring contract (without 2 future 1st rounders attached... And thats just dumb). I've come to accept that we're stretching Deng and moving Clarkson at some point this season to shed salary no matter what.

I'd like to open up at least the thought of resigning Randle if he has a big year here. I'm not totally sold on just moving him.

Focus on 2 max contracts and using the rest of what we have left accordingly.

[Penberthy]

If Randle blows up this year, which I also expect, then we will be able to attach him to Deng rather than 2 future first rounders.

In that scenario, if we want to resign Randle, it will require near max.

[leeprettyp]

think he can be had for a bit of a discount because he loves it here. Think it would be between 15-18mill a season to resign him but remember we'd have his bird rights.... So, we could just resigning him while we're over the cap if we're a serious contender by then

[chefy]

for once i really would like the lakers to rebuild like the spurs way (right way).

[MixedUp]

So after the Kyrie trade request I put up a tweet saying I would rather have Kyrie on the Lakers than LBJ and I got completely roasted by alot of fans. I dont understand though? I thought my reasons for this are pretty clear and should be shared by more.

Why do we want LeBron?

So we built a good couple of years to get this team where they are now (the collection of talent) and while I'm allready sad about the departure of D'Lo I do understand.
So lets say for argument sake we do get LeBron next season.

- Does this mean Lonzo goes from the 1st ballhandler to 2nd? Does this stunt his growth? Or is LBJ suddenly going to play off-ball (see Miami).
- LeBron needs shooters around him. So where do Randle, Clarkson, Zubac (creator himself) among others go? I think we need to lose half our team to consolidate to LeBrons playing style.
- What happens if LBJ strongarms us and controls the Lakers like he did in Cle, Mia, Cle?
- What if he leaves after 1/2 years?
- What if he starts declining (see Nash).


I for one, much rather make a package for Kyrie Irving (who is more of a 2 than a 1 in my eyes). Loves Kobe, has the same killer instrinct and Luke can learn him defense just like he did with Nick.
What are your thoughts?

[Slava]

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[Tee212]

ok you like kyrie and dont want lb..got it

[Lakernut4ever]

We don't need another hero ball 1 versus 5 type of ball dominating black hole....

[Michael Lucky]

Op brings a good point. If we get LeBron it is quite possible he will try and force management to trade away Ingram and Lonzo for veteran players. He is in win now mode and he did that as soon as he arrived in Cleveland with Wiggins.