2024 off-season: what moves would you like to see??

[TylersLakers]

Realistically this team is not going to make big moves for financial reasons outside of re-signing their guys (D'Lo, Max, Bron obviously, Dinwiddie because he will be cheap even though he's not good anymore) but I'd like to see more depth at the C position. Daniel Theis, Tillman, Goga are probably our options.

I think we're going to make some real changes outside of LeBron + AD. I'd be stunned if they don't trade all their future draft capital.

[dAdo dA dEvil]

FO would probably hold on to LeBron.
I will prioritize keeping AD and Reaves.
Rui, Vando, Max will be next on the list.
I wouldn't mind having back Taurean, Spencer, Hayes and Wood.
Prioritize getting a big first. Jax and Wood are decent back up but not enough if there is an injury. During the Nuggets match up, AD is the only legit big that we have. JAx is athletic and long, Wood is good offensively and can shoot but we need a big who can bang and defend.
Fill the rest of the roster with guards and wings.

[Landsberger]

Realistically this team is not going to make big moves for financial reasons outside of re-signing their guys (D'Lo, Max, Bron obviously, Dinwiddie because he will be cheap even though he's not good anymore) but I'd like to see more depth at the C position. Daniel Theis, Tillman, Goga are probably our options.

I think we're going to make some real changes outside of LeBron + AD. I'd be stunned if they don't trade all their future draft capital.

I'd tear it down to the foundation while there are marketable assets. Trade Davis and Bron will leave.

That said, the "family" needs the cash flow so they will ride this pig into the ground before they sell it. I can see them keep swinging for the fences. We're getting late in this cycle... about Nash/Howard late. Look for CP3 to somehow find his way here and a borderline star at the twilight.

[TylersLakers]

Realistically this team is not going to make big moves for financial reasons outside of re-signing their guys (D'Lo, Max, Bron obviously, Dinwiddie because he will be cheap even though he's not good anymore) but I'd like to see more depth at the C position. Daniel Theis, Tillman, Goga are probably our options.

I think we're going to make some real changes outside of LeBron + AD. I'd be stunned if they don't trade all their future draft capital.

I'd tear it down to the foundation while there are marketable assets. Trade Davis and Bron will leave.

That said, the "family" needs the cash flow so they will ride this pig into the ground before they sell it. I can see them keep swinging for the fences. We're getting late in this cycle... about Nash/Howard late. Look for CP3 to somehow find his way here and a borderline star at the twilight.

I said it earlier in this thread and one poster thought I was crazy: If Paul gets cut (and he will), he will likely be a Laker.

I'm praying for depth and to turn Rui, D-Lo, Vincent and draft capital into playoff performers. DFS, Caruso, Dejounte, Jarrett Allen, Michael Porter, DeRozan, etc. The mission coming out of this off-season should be to have 5-6 two way players and 7-8 legit playoff players.

Caruso for Vincent, 2029 1st (unprotected), 2024 1st (17th overall).
DFS, Sharpe for Rui, JHS, 2031 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Can still re-sign D-Lo or use the MLE to sign players like: DeRozan, Buddy Hield, Drummond, KCP, Valanciunas, Gary Trent Jr etc. Offer the full MLE to KCP, DeRozan, Gary Trent Jr and see who takes it first. If you can't get any, split it up between depth pieces.

Reaves/DeRozan/DFS/LeBron/AD with Caruso/Vando/Christie/Paul/Theis
Caruso/Reaves/DFS/LeBron/AD with Hield/Vando/Christie/Paul/Drummond

If we're going to go the AD and LeBron route (not saying that's the right plan) - go all in. The margin between us and Dallas, Minnesota and Denver isn't all that big in my opinion.

[TimeisIllmatic]

Realistically this team is not going to make big moves for financial reasons outside of re-signing their guys (D'Lo, Max, Bron obviously, Dinwiddie because he will be cheap even though he's not good anymore) but I'd like to see more depth at the C position. Daniel Theis, Tillman, Goga are probably our options.

I think we're going to make some real changes outside of LeBron + AD. I'd be stunned if they don't trade all their future draft capital.

There is honestly no deal out there that will make this team into a championship contender, IMO. Rui, Reaves, maybe Vando (although he has not been healthy), Lewis, JHS, and future picks are not compelling assets for a team looking to give up a valuable player.

I'm all for optimism but as fans of the Lakers we also need to be honest about the value of the players on our team.

[loveshaq007]

I think we're going to make some real changes outside of LeBron + AD. I'd be stunned if they don't trade all their future draft capital.

I'd tear it down to the foundation while there are marketable assets. Trade Davis and Bron will leave.

That said, the "family" needs the cash flow so they will ride this pig into the ground before they sell it. I can see them keep swinging for the fences. We're getting late in this cycle... about Nash/Howard late. Look for CP3 to somehow find his way here and a borderline star at the twilight.

I said it earlier in this thread and one poster thought I was crazy: If Paul gets cut (and he will), he will likely be a Laker.

I'm praying for depth and to turn Rui, D-Lo, Vincent and draft capital into playoff performers. DFS, Caruso, Dejounte, Jarrett Allen, Michael Porter, DeRozan, etc. The mission coming out of this off-season should be to have 5-6 two way players and 7-8 legit playoff players.

Caruso for Vincent, 2029 1st (unprotected), 2024 1st (17th overall).
DFS, Sharpe for Rui, JHS, 2031 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Can still re-sign D-Lo or use the MLE to sign players like: DeRozan, Buddy Hield, Drummond, KCP, Valanciunas, Gary Trent Jr etc. Offer the full MLE to KCP, DeRozan, Gary Trent Jr and see who takes it first. If you can't get any, split it up between depth pieces.

Reaves/DeRozan/DFS/LeBron/AD with Caruso/Vando/Christie/Paul/Theis
Caruso/Reaves/DFS/LeBron/AD with Hield/Vando/Christie/Paul/Drummond

If we're going to go the AD and LeBron route (not saying that's the right plan) - go all in. The margin between us and Dallas, Minnesota and Denver isn't all that big in my opinion.

I believe this is too much... for Caruso. we could easily get Murray for that package and Rui. I do believe that is a good deal if we add DeRozan.

here are slight tweaks to your suggestion:

Caruso AND DEROZAN for Vincent, RUI, 2029 1st (unprotected), 2024 1st (17th overall)

2031 1st (Top 4 Protected), WOOD, and DLO for Jonathan Isaac and Goga (vets min)

get KCP for full MLE. or Claxton.

sign Cp3, Drummond, Covington, Jae, Dinwiddie, Lowry, McGee, Mills, Thad, Hayward, Dinwiddie for vet min

[TylersLakers]

I'd tear it down to the foundation while there are marketable assets. Trade Davis and Bron will leave.

That said, the "family" needs the cash flow so they will ride this pig into the ground before they sell it. I can see them keep swinging for the fences. We're getting late in this cycle... about Nash/Howard late. Look for CP3 to somehow find his way here and a borderline star at the twilight.

I said it earlier in this thread and one poster thought I was crazy: If Paul gets cut (and he will), he will likely be a Laker.

I'm praying for depth and to turn Rui, D-Lo, Vincent and draft capital into playoff performers. DFS, Caruso, Dejounte, Jarrett Allen, Michael Porter, DeRozan, etc. The mission coming out of this off-season should be to have 5-6 two way players and 7-8 legit playoff players.

Caruso for Vincent, 2029 1st (unprotected), 2024 1st (17th overall).
DFS, Sharpe for Rui, JHS, 2031 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Can still re-sign D-Lo or use the MLE to sign players like: DeRozan, Buddy Hield, Drummond, KCP, Valanciunas, Gary Trent Jr etc. Offer the full MLE to KCP, DeRozan, Gary Trent Jr and see who takes it first. If you can't get any, split it up between depth pieces.

Reaves/DeRozan/DFS/LeBron/AD with Caruso/Vando/Christie/Paul/Theis
Caruso/Reaves/DFS/LeBron/AD with Hield/Vando/Christie/Paul/Drummond

If we're going to go the AD and LeBron route (not saying that's the right plan) - go all in. The margin between us and Dallas, Minnesota and Denver isn't all that big in my opinion.

I believe this is too much... for Caruso. we could easily get Murray for that package and Rui. I do believe that is a good deal if we add DeRozan.

here are slight tweaks to your suggestion:

Caruso AND DEROZAN for Vincent, RUI, 2029 1st (unprotected), 2024 1st (17th overall)

2031 1st (Top 4 Protected), WOOD, and DLO for Jonathan Isaac and Goga (vets min)

get KCP for full MLE. or Claxton.

sign Cp3, Drummond, Covington, Jae, Dinwiddie, Lowry, McGee, Mills, Thad, Hayward, Dinwiddie for vet min

The new CBA makes that all tough. If we acquire a player via sign and trade, we're hard capped at $179M.

In that deal, DeRozan would be sign and traded to us for a deal starting at around $18M. That's totally realistic.

Bron: $50M
AD: $43.2M
DeRozan: $18.0M
Caruso: $9.9M
Reaves: $13.0M
Vando: $11.0M
Reddish: $2.4M
Lewis: $1.8M
JHS: $3.9M
2nd round pick: $1.1M
Christie: $6.0M (projected 1st year salary)
MLE: $13.1M

Total = $173.4 - If we split the MLE up between 2 players, that gives us 13 players. You need at minimum 14 on your roster. We'd have enough room to add a vet minimum or two in addition. Totally doable. We would need shooting in a big way and a big man.

We would have to renounce D-Lo so the Isaac trade wouldn't be able to happen unfortunately. I love Isaac's fit on this team.

[loveshaq007]

plot twist... LeBron takes slightly less for the team he wants

[Landsberger]

I think we're going to make some real changes outside of LeBron + AD. I'd be stunned if they don't trade all their future draft capital.

I'd tear it down to the foundation while there are marketable assets. Trade Davis and Bron will leave.

That said, the "family" needs the cash flow so they will ride this pig into the ground before they sell it. I can see them keep swinging for the fences. We're getting late in this cycle... about Nash/Howard late. Look for CP3 to somehow find his way here and a borderline star at the twilight.

I said it earlier in this thread and one poster thought I was crazy: If Paul gets cut (and he will), he will likely be a Laker.

I'm praying for depth and to turn Rui, D-Lo, Vincent and draft capital into playoff performers. DFS, Caruso, Dejounte, Jarrett Allen, Michael Porter, DeRozan, etc. The mission coming out of this off-season should be to have 5-6 two way players and 7-8 legit playoff players.

Caruso for Vincent, 2029 1st (unprotected), 2024 1st (17th overall).
DFS, Sharpe for Rui, JHS, 2031 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Can still re-sign D-Lo or use the MLE to sign players like: DeRozan, Buddy Hield, Drummond, KCP, Valanciunas, Gary Trent Jr etc. Offer the full MLE to KCP, DeRozan, Gary Trent Jr and see who takes it first. If you can't get any, split it up between depth pieces.

Reaves/DeRozan/DFS/LeBron/AD with Caruso/Vando/Christie/Paul/Theis
Caruso/Reaves/DFS/LeBron/AD with Hield/Vando/Christie/Paul/Drummond

If we're going to go the AD and LeBron route (not saying that's the right plan) - go all in. The margin between us and Dallas, Minnesota and Denver isn't all that big in my opinion.

You could get all those "names" from yesteryear here and still not improve the outcome. The focus is on the players not named Bron, Davis and Russell it seems. The problem is WITH those 3. They will get the overwhelming majority of the minutes on the floor. You think DeRozan is going to have the ball to close games? Come on. The elephant in the room is LeBron. Not the lack of a bench player or 2.

LeBron has been one of the most talented players to ever play... that said, his days of carrying a team are done. He's a dinosaur to the era of a single player being the center of a team. I just don't see him differing to anyone. Do you think lightening strikes 2 seasons in a row and we get 70+ games from Bron and Davis again?

[danfantastk32]

You could get all those "names" from yesteryear here and still not improve the outcome. The focus is on the players not named Bron, Davis and Russell it seems. The problem is WITH those 3. They will get the overwhelming majority of the minutes on the floor. You think DeRozan is going to have the ball to close games? Come on. The elephant in the room is LeBron. Not the lack of a bench player or 2.

LeBron has been one of the most talented players to ever play... that said, his days of carrying a team are done. He's a dinosaur to the era of a single player being the center of a team. I just don't see him differing to anyone. Do you think lightening strikes 2 seasons in a row and we get 70+ games from Bron and Davis again?

Amen. I'm the one who thought he was crazy. Turns out his contract is not guaranteed, so I guess we might get him on the cheap. But if we do, what does that say? Another player who's so past it, that nobody's offering him anything legit....that's our game plan?

We gotta do bigger things. Think past grabbing ancient ring-chasers, or some random-ass roll player on Miami. I've tried to say it every which way I can for the last 12 months.....Lebron and AD aren't bringing another title. If your able to actually get a legit star with our picks....a real difference maker who's not old....then I'll shut up and see how it goes. It's still not what I'd want to do mind you, but I'll at least check it out.

But new coaches deferring to Lebron, and an assortment of guys who arent good enough to command real contracts doesnt interest me. It'll still be the Lebron show. And Lebron is the issue. Not hate....just this is where he's at now at this stage. He can't carry like he once did, but wont change. And even if AD and Lebron manage another injury free season....its another year older.

But I'm over it. The FO is clearly gonna get Bronny and try to sign a 3rd star. And failing that....will get a guy like CP3...overpay him, and try to paint lipstick on that pig, and sell it to the fans (who will mostly buy it for a while).

I got other things to do. Since we signed Brick a few years back, I don't watch half the games I used to. This team is just swirling down the drain slowly, and the FO doesn't have a plan. So no thank you.

[TylersLakers]

I'd tear it down to the foundation while there are marketable assets. Trade Davis and Bron will leave.

That said, the "family" needs the cash flow so they will ride this pig into the ground before they sell it. I can see them keep swinging for the fences. We're getting late in this cycle... about Nash/Howard late. Look for CP3 to somehow find his way here and a borderline star at the twilight.

I said it earlier in this thread and one poster thought I was crazy: If Paul gets cut (and he will), he will likely be a Laker.

I'm praying for depth and to turn Rui, D-Lo, Vincent and draft capital into playoff performers. DFS, Caruso, Dejounte, Jarrett Allen, Michael Porter, DeRozan, etc. The mission coming out of this off-season should be to have 5-6 two way players and 7-8 legit playoff players.

Caruso for Vincent, 2029 1st (unprotected), 2024 1st (17th overall).
DFS, Sharpe for Rui, JHS, 2031 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Can still re-sign D-Lo or use the MLE to sign players like: DeRozan, Buddy Hield, Drummond, KCP, Valanciunas, Gary Trent Jr etc. Offer the full MLE to KCP, DeRozan, Gary Trent Jr and see who takes it first. If you can't get any, split it up between depth pieces.

Reaves/DeRozan/DFS/LeBron/AD with Caruso/Vando/Christie/Paul/Theis
Caruso/Reaves/DFS/LeBron/AD with Hield/Vando/Christie/Paul/Drummond

If we're going to go the AD and LeBron route (not saying that's the right plan) - go all in. The margin between us and Dallas, Minnesota and Denver isn't all that big in my opinion.

You could get all those "names" from yesteryear here and still not improve the outcome. The focus is on the players not named Bron, Davis and Russell it seems. The problem is WITH those 3. They will get the overwhelming majority of the minutes on the floor. You think DeRozan is going to have the ball to close games? Come on. The elephant in the room is LeBron. Not the lack of a bench player or 2.

LeBron has been one of the most talented players to ever play... that said, his days of carrying a team are done. He's a dinosaur to the era of a single player being the center of a team. I just don't see him differing to anyone. Do you think lightening strikes 2 seasons in a row and we get 70+ games from Bron and Davis again?

Considering Austin Reaves has had the ball in his hands to close playoff games, I absolutely do think DeRozan would have the ball. LeBron has transitioned into much more of an off ball player since winning the Championship. HIs on-ball shot creation hasn't been as good. He's lost a significant step in that regard and he's smart enough to know that which is why we've seen the ball in Austin's hands, D-Lo's hands, Westbrook's hands, Malik Monk's hands, etc.

To expect 70+ games from LeBron and AD is nonsense. If it happens, fantastic. Which again is why you need a player like DeRozan or credible depth to get you through those games.

[zuju]

Don't know if we are keeping the #17 draft pick. If we do, Yves Missi is a guy to watch

Watch on YouTube

He can surprise a lot of people if nurtured properly. Remember in the good old days, elite big men all had elite athleticism and excellent body coordination.

Year 1, coach him for disciplined defense and defensive awareness and be a lob threat. This is what the Lakers need the most. A big who can defense and back up AD

Year 2 and so on, train for some additional skills eg handles, footwork under the rim, sky hook, mid range jumpers etc. Kareem and phil handy will be great for him if available.

FF too much

[danfantastk32]

Don't know if we are keeping the #17 draft pick. If we do, Yves Missi is a guy to watch

He can surprise a lot of people if nurtured properly. Remember in the good old days, elite big men all had elite athleticism and excellent body coordination.

Year 1, coach him for disciplined defense and defensive awareness and be a lob threat. This is what the Lakers need the most. A big who can defense and back up AD

Year 2 and so on, train for some additional skills eg handles, footwork under the rim, sky hook, mid range jumpers etc. Kareem and phil handy will be great for him if available.

FF too much

So my first thought was after about a 1/3rd of way through video, I had yet to see him not dunk. I think there might have been a layup in there. Gotta spread the floor in today's game. Just gotta. This guy clearly has no shot (the narrator was polite, but said as much). You don't think that any of his coaches, or himself have pointed out "hey....you get some range to your game, and you can start adding zero's to your contract"? So it's worrisome to me that I'm seeing ZERO from outside of 2 feet. You gotta know he's tried. So I think there is something there.

But hey....nice find. Looks like he plays D. With no real shot to speak of....he prob will be available at #17. But before I picked him, I'd go get some real experts to check his shot out, and determine if there's hope there. And no offense, but Kareem isn't the guy I'd want. He had his crazy hook...but thats about it. And it didn't go out past about 9feet. I'd be looking to bring in a guy like Dirk. A 7' SHOOTER. Work with this guy for an afternoon (with about 5 other "Shooting coaches)...really pick his mechanics apart, and determine if this guy can be worked on. Cause if not.....I dont wanna waste a FRP on him. But if there was some hope....hell yeah, I think this guy could be a great player. Granted it was all "pro Missi" material...but he seems to read game well.

And you can't teach 7'

[Syko_boB]

Free agency could get crazy especially with all of our own out there
#1 after re-signing Bron is to retain Max Christie entering RFA on a long term deal rather than him accept the qualified offer for one year

Maybe we could use #17 on his bro Cam Christie he looks like a clone

And wondering what type of contracts we can offer to UFAs. What effect would DLo opting in/out have on the MLE/tax and how bad would it be if we lost him for nothing

[Syko_boB]

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[TyCobb]

Draft Devin Carter with 17.

[TylersLakers]

Trade the pick.

[Fo-Real]

So would it be disrespectful to Bron to wait until pick 55 to draft Bronny? Dose he have to be the 17th pick?

[Hoopz Afrik]

Draft Devin Carter with 17.

I don't think he'll last that long.

[DNP-Old]

My 1st choice at 17 would be Johnny Furphy, 2nd choice would be DaRon Holmes.