Coach Search: Dan Hurley out, now who

TylersLakers · Post #81 » by **TylersLakers** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:35 pm

I really wish we'd get rid of this front office and ownership group, honestly.

If you're offering 6 years, that offer needs to be 6 years, 85 million. Or 6 years, 90 million.

I'll go back to my initial thoughts when this first came out on Thursday morning: I think the Lakers were aware that hiring JJ the way they did wouldn't have gone off well and people would have continued to criticize their process. This was their way of trying to get past that narrative but come up just a little short. Now they can say "Hey, we offered to make him the highest paid coach in Lakers history!"

Syko_boB · Post #82 » by **Syko_boB** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:40 pm

We need Stan Van Gundy

sonnyhill · Post #83 » by **sonnyhill** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:30 pm

Syko_boB wrote:We need Stan Van Gundy

???

Nooooooo!!!

LAKESHOW · Post #84 » by **LAKESHOW** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:09 am

It just ain't the same. To get professionals all in like college kids. To mold and form 1 unit. To yell and harp on kids for not playing defense. To get them to think All Life depends on this game or possession.
That stuffs works on the collegiate level. Pros will tune u out and won't listen to u by march 1st. He made the correct decision

stan francisco · Post #85 » by **stan francisco** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:14 am

Becky Hammon, JB Bickerstaff, Jerry Stackhouse, Rajon Rondo, Sam Cassell, Juwan Howard… All of them are great candidates for assistant coaches, too.

Or any established disciple of coach Malone, Popovic. If the defense isn’t there, no thanks. If only defense is there (Van Gundy, Vogel), no thanks.

Godfather13 · Post #86 » by **Godfather13** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:38 am

TylersLakers wrote:I really wish we'd get rid of this front office and ownership group, honestly.

If you're offering 6 years, that offer needs to be 6 years, 85 million. Or 6 years, 90 million.

I'll go back to my initial thoughts when this first came out on Thursday morning: I think the Lakers were aware that hiring JJ the way they did wouldn't have gone off well and people would have continued to criticize their process. This was their way of trying to get past that narrative but come up just a little short. Now they can say "Hey, we offered to make him the highest paid coach in Lakers history!"

Parallel to what you said -

Read on Twitter

This seems eerily similar to how Kawhi pulled Robs pants down in 2019 off season. Idk what it'll take for Rob to ever get fired still. We're a joke!

Post #87 » by **Danny Darko** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:34 am

sell the team incompetent cheapskates...and least go with Becky

Landsberger · Post #88 » by **Landsberger** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:42 am

Love the talk about the money.... my guess is he asked the former people associated with the team leadership a few questions and suddenly all the money in the world wasn't worth it.

zuju · Post #89 » by **zuju** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:48 am

Its only about 3peat at NCAA?

if so, don't even attend the interview and consider a few days. Outright reject it from the very beginning.

Feeling Lakers was used for his own leverage.

Also means the chance of hiring Hurley in the future tends to zero. Unless we got an opening again next season.

SlimShady83 · Post #90 » by **SlimShady83** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:24 am

Danny Darko wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Coach RONDO

sure at this point

Even though I'm laughing I'm kind of serious, actually think he'd do good.

SlimShady83 · Post #91 » by **SlimShady83** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:30 am

On a Serious note ... I'm guessing now that offer has been offered to HURLEY ...

Does any other coach except less offer then that? Or will Lakers have to match that offer to other coaches now?

MAMBAEMD · Post #92 » by **MAMBAEMD** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:32 am

This would have been an incredible hire, but was always a pipe dream.

Hurley clearly played the Lakers here, and the only way to have brought him here would have been for something in the range of $15 million/yr for at least 7 years. And that was never going to happen for a first time NBA coach.

Hurley is a great coach and a big upgrade over Ham, but it is one thing to motivate young college players, and completely another to get LBJ or DLo to play defense or box out, or to get Prince to consistently knock down open 3s.

In other words, we need a much better coach than Ham, but more importantly, we need players who consistently do the things that win games and series.

I'd go after Borrego or Atkinson.

Hiring Redick isn't a good move.

zuju · Post #93 » by **zuju** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:03 pm

If it looks like Dan Hurley really have interest in the job in a year or two, shall the Lakers hire an "interim coach" to wait for him. Of course, a more competent one better than Ham.

tamaraw08 · Post #94 » by **tamaraw08** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:51 pm

MAMBAEMD wrote:This would have been an incredible hire, but was always a pipe dream.

Hurley clearly played the Lakers here, and the only way to have brought him here would have been for something in the range of $15 million/yr for at least 7 years. And that was never going to happen for a first time NBA coach.

Hurley is a great coach and a big upgrade over Ham, but it is one thing to motivate young college players, and completely another to get LBJ or DLo to play defense or box out, or to get Prince to consistently knock down open 3s.

In other words, we need a much better coach than Ham, but more importantly, we need players who consistently do the things that win games and series.

I'd go after Borrego or Atkinson.

Hiring Redick isn't a good move.

I am at a lost on why they are even considering Borrego because this coach had ONE winning season out of 5 tries.
Sucked at Orlando,
He lost more than he won in first 3 years in Charlotte. He finally won more than 42 games there but still couldn't convince his present and other GM's who had openings to hire him as HC, why?
Atkinson turned down a HC job in the past, I'm not sure if he will be interested.
meh on Cassell and other assistants.

EggIsCooling · Post #95 » by **EggIsCooling** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:11 pm

It's obviously now, Dan Hurley's heart was never in it to leave UConn. It's reported that legendary Coach K is ADVISING Jeanie and the front office in the search for a coach, if true, then Hurley likely went through the process only because Coach K recommended him. If Coach K recommended you for anything, I don't care if it is for a Janitorial job, you listen and go through the process to hear what your future employer can offer. The pitch was very compelling according to Hurley but his heart was never in it. Even with an offer that makes him the highest paid coach in the association, he's going to stay at UConn.

The good that came out of this is now a blueprint (culture/legacy building, players development, and a X's and O's guy) became public. Don't know who the next guy to fit this blueprint, but would not be surprising to see someone from another elite college program. Celtics are up 2-0, so we probably need to play catching up again.

Landsberger · Post #96 » by **Landsberger** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:35 pm

EggIsCooling wrote:It's obviously now, Dan Hurley's heart was never in it to leave UConn. It's reported that legendary Coach K is ADVISING Jeanie and the front office in the search for a coach, if true, then Hurley likely went through the process only because Coach K recommended him. If Coach K recommended you for anything, I don't care if it is for a Janitorial job, you listen and go through the process to hear what your future employer can offer. The pitch was very compelling according to Hurley but his heart was never in it. Even with an offer that makes him the highest paid coach in the association, he's going to stay at UConn.

The good that came out of this is now a blueprint (culture/legacy building, players development, and a X's and O's guy) became public. Don't know who the next guy to fit this blueprint, but would not be surprising to see someone from another elite college program. Celtics are up 2-0, so we probably need to play catching up again.

Yeah... this is obvious for sure.

Couldn't be instability of the ownership group, roster issues, ancient star and borderline star and both with injury issues, lack of meaningful 1st round picks or anything like that... It must be because he was obligated to do it by someone who can't obligate any one to do anything.

stan francisco · Post #97 » by **stan francisco** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:13 pm

Danny Darko wrote:sell the team incompetent cheapskates...and least go with Becky

Agreed.

I appreciate that Jeannie has brought peace and stability to the Lakers, post the Jim Buss reign.

However, the fans don’t care about Kum-ba-ya and jersey sales. That’s not the metric by which her dad measured success. The Laker fans and Dr Buss always measured success by the number of rings.

In that regard, she’s failing. The bubble ring happened because we had a good roster put together by Rob.

Rob needs to grow a pair and tell LBJ and Jeannie to back off of roster and coaching decisions.

zuju · Post #98 » by **zuju** » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:05 am

EggIsCooling wrote:It's obviously now, Dan Hurley's heart was never in it to leave UConn. It's reported that legendary Coach K is ADVISING Jeanie and the front office in the search for a coach, if true, then Hurley likely went through the process only because Coach K recommended him. If Coach K recommended you for anything, I don't care if it is for a Janitorial job, you listen and go through the process to hear what your future employer can offer. The pitch was very compelling according to Hurley but his heart was never in it. Even with an offer that makes him the highest paid coach in the association, he's going to stay at UConn.

The good that came out of this is now a blueprint (culture/legacy building, players development, and a X's and O's guy) became public. Don't know who the next guy to fit this blueprint, but would not be surprising to see someone from another elite college program. Celtics are up 2-0, so we probably need to play catching up again.

The one good thing about this coaching search is they found someone competent to advise them instead of the dumbass Rambis.

Pelinka should set up a "substainable program" himself on roster building undet the new CBA. Coach only come in and tell you what he need, you work on getting these players within your roster building program

danfantastk32 · Post #99 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:21 pm

Landsberger wrote:Couldn't be instability of the ownership group, roster issues, ancient star and borderline star and both with injury issues, lack of meaningful 1st round picks or anything like that... It must be because he was obligated to do it by someone who can't obligate any one to do anything.

Yeah, I think the fact that he turned it down proves he's got smarts. I kinda want him more now =0)

Interesting game of poker moving forward. The Lakers have publicly "asked Stacy to the prom" and got denied. So we just saunter back up to JJ?? Does JJ still want the job, knowing a better pier turned it down? Knowing we really wanted Stacy? How do they sell "plan B" to the masses, should they fail at any major 3rd star?

The Lakers are a steamy sh**-show these days.....no doubt. This whole thing is shades of Jim Buss.

Landsberger · Post #100 » by **Landsberger** » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:31 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Couldn't be instability of the ownership group, roster issues, ancient star and borderline star and both with injury issues, lack of meaningful 1st round picks or anything like that... It must be because he was obligated to do it by someone who can't obligate any one to do anything.

Yeah, I think the fact that he turned it down proves he's got smarts. I kinda want him more now =0)

Interesting game of poker moving forward. The Lakers have publicly "asked Stacy to the prom" and got denied. So we just saunter back up to JJ?? Does JJ still want the job, knowing a better pier turned it down? Knowing we really wanted Stacy? How do they sell "plan B" to the masses, should they fail at any major 3rd star?

The Lakers are a steamy sh**-show these days.....no doubt. This whole thing is shades of Jim Buss.

I think any coach knows that they will not last long enough to make a difference. The odds are very low that the Bron/Davis led Lakers ever make to a finals, much less win one. It's not a coaching gap that's preventing it. Fans love to blame coaches, refs, the league and everything else but look at the players. Bron's had an amazing career... Davis is a good player but over valued by most. After that we have nothing in the way of "special talent" on the team.