ImageImageImageImageImage

rumor: cvernon.com hints at Pau to Lakers in Mem firesale

Moderators: Kilroy, Danny Darko, TyCobb

fareweatherfan
Senior
Posts: 663
And1: 1
Joined: Jan 24, 2008

 

Post#81 » by fareweatherfan » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:19 pm

I am not one to feed the rumor beast, but this time I will indulge...its just too good to pass up.

You guys have pretty much covered all angles of this proposed trade. I would just like to add my take on trading both Kwame and LO.

Gasol would more or less obviate the need for LO. If LO were a guy who could come off the bench, then having both would be fantastic. But LO is just not that guy, imo.

I dont like the idea of playing LO at the 3, especially not with two studs down low, in Pau and Bynum. We would need a shooter at the 3 to spread the defense (Radman, maybe even Luke if he ever puts it together this season), or a slasher to gobble up the sweet passes our bigs are capable of dishing (Ariza). LO would only fit in on defense, having him next to Pau and Bynum on the defensive end would be plain nasty. Length, agility, and instincts across the board.

If this trade goes down, its time for our 3s to earn their keep.

Oh...and look out for Kobe as MVP!
User avatar
Danny Darko
Forum Mod - Lakers
Forum Mod - Lakers
Posts: 18,792
And1: 6,093
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
         

 

Post#82 » by Danny Darko » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:19 pm

diturral wrote:would you guys rather take pau or kidd?


Pau
Image
Kilroy
Forum Mod - Lakers
Forum Mod - Lakers
Posts: 21,605
And1: 12,319
Joined: Jul 10, 2006
Location: The Motel 9 in Vegas
       

 

Post#83 » by Kilroy » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:31 pm

Deuce33 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Those scrubs in Odom and Brown are giving us NOTHING, Pau Gasol > Odom/Brown easily.


Yeah, well I didn't start the rumor...

It was proposed that you (Memphis) wanted to cut salaries and wanted to dump Cardinals while taking back expirings...

Kwame is a decent 2nd or 3rd string C/PF but a really nice expiring...
Odom is a solid 3rd scoring option on any team and a monster on boards, his contract isn't horible for what he is, and becomes an 'expiring' next year I believe... Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

This might be viewed as a good move within the confines of the money issues surrounding this rumor.
User avatar
wezbo
Analyst
Posts: 3,697
And1: 6
Joined: Jul 21, 2006
Location: Lakertown

 

Post#84 » by wezbo » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:33 pm

this is what we can do to keep turiaf

make a 3 way where odom goes for expirings and a prospect or pick and send those wiht kwame to memphis
Image
manny "pacman" pacquiao is the greatest
User avatar
zen_4_10
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,316
And1: 14
Joined: Feb 02, 2006

 

Post#85 » by zen_4_10 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:37 pm

Since the main rumor is the Griz are going to acquire Collins from Jersey it makes me far more skeptical they would take Kwame in a Pau deal and to me less likely anything would happen with us.

Having Collins, Kwame and Darko all on the same team makes no sense by any standards what so ever. Even for an expiring.
-G-
Analyst
Posts: 3,595
And1: 2,122
Joined: Jan 30, 2007

 

Post#86 » by -G- » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:57 pm

Memphis just wants expirings, so I don't think they even want Odom.

Kwame/Sasha/Karl works. Throw in a 1st.

For everyone worried about Turiaf's PT, he'd be the backup PF/C. He'd still get 20 minutes.
B-Scott
Head Coach
Posts: 7,180
And1: 94
Joined: Dec 22, 2005
Location: Los Angeles California

 

Post#87 » by B-Scott » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:01 pm

Lakers can get Gasol without losing Lamar and still use Lamar in a seperate trade for a better SF
User avatar
Danny Darko
Forum Mod - Lakers
Forum Mod - Lakers
Posts: 18,792
And1: 6,093
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
         

 

Post#88 » by Danny Darko » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:05 pm

B-Scott wrote:Lakers can get Gasol without losing Lamar and still use Lamar in a seperate trade for a better SF


I could swear I heard you say something about trading Lamar. Perhaps this is the onset of some early form of senility on my part.
Image
B-Scott
Head Coach
Posts: 7,180
And1: 94
Joined: Dec 22, 2005
Location: Los Angeles California

 

Post#89 » by B-Scott » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:13 pm

I never said dont trade Lamar. I just didnt want to do it unless we replaced him at PF. Getting back Gasol,he's replaced.

Now you can trade him for someone like Artest
davidse
Head Coach
Posts: 6,375
And1: 2
Joined: Nov 05, 2004

 

Post#90 » by davidse » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:14 pm

odom and mihm to minny

ratliff, simien, kwame, sasha (all expiring), picks to memphis

gasol, cardinal, darko, navaro to la



the only problem i have with the entire logic of this article is that if expiring deals is all the grizzlies want - there's no way they chose us over miami who have the expiring deals, even have a pf they grizzlies would like and the heat can now give up - in haslem, but most importantly - they also play in the east.

and as bad as miami have been - i don't think riley misses an opportunity like this.

hope i'm wrong though.
that trade at the top of my post works for me... :wink:
User avatar
0HeadAche0
Rookie
Posts: 1,018
And1: 0
Joined: Apr 30, 2006
Location: a board

 

Post#91 » by 0HeadAche0 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:15 pm

very surprised if anything happens now they have traded for Collins.
-G-
Analyst
Posts: 3,595
And1: 2,122
Joined: Jan 30, 2007

 

Post#92 » by -G- » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:21 pm

0HeadAche0 wrote:very surprised if anything happens now they have traded for Collins.


Really don't see how it affects this. Bad contract for bad contract. Instead of Swift on the bench, Collins will replace him on the bench.
User avatar
bulldogcharly
Junior
Posts: 258
And1: 6
Joined: Jul 06, 2007

 

Post#93 » by bulldogcharly » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:27 pm

swift >>> collins. ive seen swift play and hes actually pretty good. collins is just horrible.

anyways i really hope we get pau instead of kidd. kidd isnt a good fit in the triangle while pau is a great fit. we need a dominant pf more than a great pg. fisher is the best pg for the triangle and farmar and jcritt are great off the bench
Image
Spoiler:
<3Kobe<3
davidse
Head Coach
Posts: 6,375
And1: 2
Joined: Nov 05, 2004

 

Post#94 » by davidse » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:27 pm

-G- wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Really don't see how it affects this. Bad contract for bad contract. Instead of Swift on the bench, Collins will replace him on the bench.



if anything - i think this deal may mean that kidd is staying in n.j. since swift could actually be somewhat effective playing with kidd.
tnayrbrocks
Senior
Posts: 648
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 25, 2005

 

Post#95 » by tnayrbrocks » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:38 pm

I haven't seen too much of Pau play so can anyone tell me where he likes to play or his style? If he's a low post player idk if it would be the best thing to trade for him because of Bynum. I don't want this team to turn into the los angeles knicks.
User avatar
EHL
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,312
And1: 2
Joined: Nov 05, 2003

 

Post#96 » by EHL » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:38 pm

I pray to Allah that this deal goes through. My deal would look as follows:

Kwame ($9.1M), Sasha ($1.8M), 2008 1st rounder

for

Pau Gasol ($13.7M)
tnayrbrocks
Senior
Posts: 648
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 25, 2005

 

Post#97 » by tnayrbrocks » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:44 pm

OMG OMG THEY GOT HIM THEY GOT HIM
I_Love_This_Game!!
Rookie
Posts: 1,002
And1: 82
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Location: Naperville, IL

 

Post#98 » by I_Love_This_Game!! » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:45 pm

Sorry, guys...but I'm not sold on the Lakers acquiring Gasol. Don't get me wrong - he is good player, but...

1) Andrew Bynum: Bynum is a back-to-the-basket player, similar to Gasol. Right now the Knicks are having difficulty playing two low-post players on the floor at the same time. Couldn't the Lakers have the same problem when Bynum returns, especially given that Kobe and Odom float down low from time to time as well? Also, Bynum is pretty young. How would he feel about this addition to the team after all that he did to improve this summer? Could he regress?

2) Triangle: Phil Jackson has never been a fan of making big midseason trades because it takes players time to learn the triangle offense. Would the addition of Pau help or hurt the team this year while he learns how to fit in this unique offense?

2) Lakers are solid without him: The Lakers were playing great ball before Bynum and Ariza went down with injuries. Once they return, there's no reason to belive that the team won't get right back on track.

Just my thoughts.
ak777
Banned User
Posts: 1,939
And1: 0
Joined: May 15, 2007

 

Post#99 » by ak777 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:46 pm

Gasol Traded to Lakers...wow...hows that?? per wiretap
LLcoleJ
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 24,393
And1: 3,366
Joined: Jan 20, 2005
Location: El Segundo
Contact:
       

 

Post#100 » by LLcoleJ » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:46 pm

Sticky
Cheers. :beer: — Mags

Return to Los Angeles Lakers