doc - date's kind of set doc, either late next year or early 2015. again she's the practical type but I know you know that when women says no it basically means the opposite. it's almost 100% that all women dream of a grand wedding.
EArl - again bro, they say the opposite. they want you to figure them out. I'm asking for confirmation actually. she once said save it on the honeymoon and house but given the chance, I'd go all in for the proposal, wedding, and honeymoon. this makes me creative with my money as well.
Thanks for the input guys. Very helpful especially the questions you threw back at me.













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