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Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:30 pm
by Cashin out
Oneal is also playing in Phx, they have the best training staff in NBA history. Once he got here he would break down instantly.

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:40 pm
by jwise44
Jajwanda wrote:If it comes down to it, I wouldn't be opposed to a Howard-Lopez S and T. Not sure if it's allowed. It's not my ideal scenario but with Lopez's excellent outside shot, you could play Jordan Hill/Earl Clark with him at PF and get a solid backup C.

Then you trade Gasol for a wing.

My L.A. backup plan:

PG- Nash, draft pick Brooklyn
SG- Bryant, Meeks
SF- Earl Clark, Wesley Johnson
PF- Jordan Hill, Derrick Williams
C- Brook Lopez, Spencer Hawes

A backup plan in case Howard wants to leave and L.A. wants some youth.


teams over the cap can't sign and trade or receive sign and trades from here on out

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:47 pm
by LApwnd
jwise44 wrote:
Jajwanda wrote:If it comes down to it, I wouldn't be opposed to a Howard-Lopez S and T. Not sure if it's allowed. It's not my ideal scenario but with Lopez's excellent outside shot, you could play Jordan Hill/Earl Clark with him at PF and get a solid backup C.

Then you trade Gasol for a wing.

My L.A. backup plan:

PG- Nash, draft pick Brooklyn
SG- Bryant, Meeks
SF- Earl Clark, Wesley Johnson
PF- Jordan Hill, Derrick Williams
C- Brook Lopez, Spencer Hawes

A backup plan in case Howard wants to leave and L.A. wants some youth.


teams over the cap can't sign and trade or receive sign and trades from here on out


• 2011 CBA: Taxpaying teams have a smaller midlevel exception, can acquire less salary in trade, and cannot use the biannual exception. Starting in 2013-14, teams more than $4 million above the tax level cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade transaction.

does not say anything bout the team sending the player away only the receiving team.

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:32 pm
by loveshaq786
If we are going to trade for a wing, I would look into igoudala or

iguodala, mozgov, randolph... for gasol, ebanks, and sacre, would be a dream... but so far iguodala hasn't met Denver's expectations as much as they expected him to

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:35 am
by Cashin out
^Unrealistic why would Denver trade Iggy for Pau?

Pau will be much more valuable on draft night as a expiring contract. Hopefully we can get a lottery pick for him on draft night, maybe Charlotte Gordon/Henderson/lottery pick for Pau.

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:37 am
by Doormatt
Cashin out wrote:^Unrealistic why would Denver trade Iggy for Pau?

Pau will be much more valuable on draft night as a expiring contract. Hopefully we can get a lottery pick for him on draft night, maybe Charlotte Gordon/Henderson/lottery pick for Pau.


you think pau for iggy is unrealistic, yet think a lottery team would give up their pick + a productive young player for his expiring contract?

lol

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:52 am
by loveshaq786
LOLLLL i was laughing reading that as well

AI < Pau.... any day!

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:39 am
by Cashin out
Doormatt wrote:
Cashin out wrote:^Unrealistic why would Denver trade Iggy for Pau?

Pau will be much more valuable on draft night as a expiring contract. Hopefully we can get a lottery pick for him on draft night, maybe Charlotte Gordon/Henderson/lottery pick for Pau.


you think pau for iggy is unrealistic, yet think a lottery team would give up their pick + a productive young player for his expiring contract?

lol
Charlotte Bobcats=anything is possible when MJ runs your team.

Yes it is much more realistic than Pau for Iggy, why would Denver help us out?

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:27 am
by RamonSessions7
Cashin out wrote:^Unrealistic why would Denver trade Iggy for Pau?

Pau will be much more valuable on draft night as a expiring contract. Hopefully we can get a lottery pick for him on draft night, maybe Charlotte Gordon/Henderson/lottery pick for Pau.

So his value lies in him being an expiring contract? As an expiring contract, he's able to net a 1st round pick how? Gordon would also be expiring while Henderson expires this year. So if they valued an expiring they would just let Henderson walk and keep Gordon's smaller contract over Pau instead of trading away their lottery pick.

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:58 am
by Jajwanda
There are two players that have long-term potential L.A. should look into: Tyreke Evans and Evan Turner. Both of these guys are PGs, especially Evans. When he came into the league he put up phenomenal numbers in his rookie year as a PG. He has the lateral quickness to guard 1s and he is a walking mismatch at that position, yet Sacramento has tried to play him at SG and even at SF over the years which is absurd.

L.A. was mentioned as a suitor for Evans a while back and I wouldn't be surprised if they'd try to land Turner (based on their similar skill set).

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:13 am
by Doormatt
dunno why you think evans or turner are point guards. turner has awful, terrible handles and average play making abilities. tyreke is just straight up not good, hes like rodney stuckey but less efficient. tyrekes offensive game does not even remotely resemble a point guard, hes score first, low efficiency, and has average vision. and yeah, the only reason he looked decent as a rookie was because there was no scouting report out on him yet, he could just overpower people becuase they respected his jumper and he got into the paint much more easily. he went from shooting 8.4 shots at the rim his rookie year, all the way down to 5.9 this year (its gotten steadily worse each year). keep him out of the paint and hes useless. also he has ZERO midrange game. like he cant shoot from 9-23 feet.

evan turner would be intersting coming off the bench for the lakers as a scoring punch, i dont see how tyreke would fit in at all, hes not a good player at all.

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:23 am
by AcecardZ
@Doormat

I agree with your assessment about Tyreke not being a great player. He was very promising as a rookie but since has not lived up to expectations. I'm not saying I'd want him on our team but... There's a pretty decent chance he could shine on a team like ours if he was willing to buy into the notion that he wasn't the first or second option. If he let Kobe, Nash or Dwight attract the defensive attention and just use his skills against whatever mismatches are created by a rotating defender as he's passed the ball by Kobe or Nash I think he could very well shine on our team.

With all that said I don't see him being a Laker anytime soon as I feel Tyreke sees himself as a star in the league and probably wouldn't be too happy about being a 3rd option. He's also be phenomenal coming off the bench for us.

just my .02 not that anybody was asking.

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:26 am
by Jajwanda
Turner has awful handles? Since when?

Evans even as a rookie was far better than Stuckey has ever been. The reason Evans could overpower players is because he was playing against 6-1/6-2 PGs. He was effective and he posted up guys like Deron (larger PGs).

Turner would be great as a scorer off the bench and eventually as a playmaker next to a complete PG (can play with the ball and off the ball guy like Nash).

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:30 pm
by Cashin out
I think we could get Tyreke Evans pretty cheap with the way Clark is playing.

Clark/Meeks for Evans?

Imagine this lineup in the playoffs

Nash
Evans
Kobe
Gasol
Dwight

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:33 pm
by dockingsched
clark >>>> evans

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:52 pm
by Cashin out
Oh Boy!

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:11 pm
by LApwnd
Cashin out wrote:Oh Boy!


those would be my sentiments in regards to your Evans trade idea :lol: not because I think one player is better than the other but you clearly not taking into consideration our lack of depth @ the big man rotation.

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:17 pm
by Cashin out
I guess you forgot who was coaching our team?

Dantoni would love that trade, he could throw out this lineup.

Nash
Meeks
Evans
Kobe
Jamison

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:22 pm
by LApwnd
Cashin out wrote:I guess you forgot who was coaching our team?

Dantoni would love that trade, he could throw out this lineup.

Nash
Meeks
Evans
Kobe
Jamison


I dont care who the coach is, a moronic lineups like that will get us no where. Just cause Antoni like playing small here and there doesn't me he lacks any type of common sense, he's playing small now because he has no choice in matter as Sacre is a dleague scrub of a big, If anything Mitch common sense will overrule Antoni stupidity for now :lol:

Re: Official trade thread 2012-13

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:28 pm
by Cashin out
It was a joke bro, quit catching feelings on me.