2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

[deargodno]

Have there been any reports of us offering the 2 for SAC's 5 & 10? I've seen it discussed lots here but is that based on any rumors?

[Michael Lucky]

No there are no rumors to it.

[Hank7]

Three reasons why the Lakers will not draft Ball and go with Jackson or Fox.

1) He is the least athletic in terms of speed, quickness and strength pound for pound than any of the top five. Hence, his potential defensively at PG is limited. That is not what we need, especially if we are going to keep Russell at 2-guard.

2) He has no mid-range game primarily due to his slow crank it up from the hip set shot. Looks to me like he was a two-handed shooter for too long and never really adjusted. It'll take years for him to change that.

3) "The Lakers need a leader and I'm the one." Right, he's going to come in and show Russell/Randle/JC et al ... how it's done and lead them. His reality testing is not unlike his dad's, just more carefully wrapped.

Can't wait for June 22...

[karkinos]

latest draft express has josh going 3 *shrug*

as far as DSJ goes, he's going to be a great player, but he has the potential to be a ball stopper. praying he goes to a team who knows how to coach.

[dockingsched]

Read on Twitter

Honestly it's starting to seem like the front office is preparing the fan base for life without Ball

[Michael Lucky]

Just have a hard time seeing what our lineup with Jackson would be.

[Kobeallday]

Now I don't really believe any of the hype that we might not take Lonzo. Im pretty sure he's who we go at 2 so I've been focusing more on 28 lately and come up with a small big board.

1- Semi Ojeleye - Great shooter built like a tank can play 3/4
2- Jordan Bell - Maybe best defender in the draft can switch on to anyone
3- Anzejs Pasecniks - High upside player to gamble on

Players I like to see Lakers get a 2nd rounder and go after.

1- Sindarius Thornwell - Seems like the perfect player to come of the bench and give 15-20 min a night
2- Cameron Oliver - Unique ability to shoot 3s and block shots
3- Dillon Brooks - I don't know why but I like this guy always makes plays comes up clutch

If we trade 2 for 5 and 10....

We can trade 10 and 28 with Portland for 15, 20, and 26.

Latest Draft express has Josh going at 5 sooo... we can possibly end with josh, OG/giles, semi, and anzejs. That would be solid!

There is no way we are taking 4 rookies on the team, we need to start winning and we need quality over quantity,

[Princeinrevolt]

Three reasons why the Lakers will not draft Ball and go with Jackson or Fox.

1) He is the least athletic in terms of speed, quickness and strength pound for pound than any of the top five. Hence, his potential defensively at PG is limited. That is not what we need, especially if we are going to keep Russell at 2-guard.

2) He has no mid-range game primarily due to his slow crank it up from the hip set shot. Looks to me like he was a two-handed shooter for too long and never really adjusted. It'll take years for him to change that.

3) "The Lakers need a leader and I'm the one." Right, he's going to come in and show Russell/Randle/JC et al ... how it's done and lead them. His reality testing is not unlike his dad's, just more carefully wrapped.

Can't wait for June 22...

Although I'm not too worried about your first two reasons.

Your third reason is actually something people should pay attention to. Lonzo will definitely not be the leader his first year, the only way he will lead this team is if he actually is as good as Magic Johnson. And I do not see that happening. I believe he will struggle in his rookie year like Ingram, but not as bad. Lonzo is a raw prospect that could turn into something special. If I were to make the decision on who to draft for the second overall pick it would either be Jackson or Ball (can't decide; happy with either).

But no way in hell do I pick De'Aaron Fox (No disrespect to you)... To be honest I wouldn't pick him in my top 10.

[Michael Lucky]

I might be more excited about Jackson if he wasn't already older than Ingram.

[Worst_to_First]

Three reasons why the Lakers will not draft Ball and go with Jackson or Fox.

1) He is the least athletic in terms of speed, quickness and strength pound for pound than any of the top five. Hence, his potential defensively at PG is limited. That is not what we need, especially if we are going to keep Russell at 2-guard.

2) He has no mid-range game primarily due to his slow crank it up from the hip set shot. Looks to me like he was a two-handed shooter for too long and never really adjusted. It'll take years for him to change that.

3) "The Lakers need a leader and I'm the one." Right, he's going to come in and show Russell/Randle/JC et al ... how it's done and lead them. His reality testing is not unlike his dad's, just more carefully wrapped.

Can't wait for June 22...

Although I'm not too worried about your first two reasons.

Your third reason is actually something people should pay attention to. Lonzo will definitely not be the leader his first year, the only way he will lead this team is if he actually is as good as Magic Johnson. And I do not see that happening. I believe he will struggle in his rookie year like Ingram, but not as bad. Lonzo is a raw prospect that could turn into something special. If I were to make the decision on who to draft for the second overall pick it would either be Jackson or Ball (can't decide; happy with either).

But no way in hell do I pick De'Aaron Fox (No disrespect to you)... To be honest I wouldn't pick him in my top 10.

One of the shot charts here is an eyesore.

[spikeslovechild]

This isn't a surprise but it sucks as a sixer fan. The only two players I want top three are Fultz or Jackson.

I think Ball and Fox are going to be busts. In fox case it's more of the NBA is moving away from athletic PG's who can't shoot. It's just so much easier for PG's to get a cpl of wide open threes a game dribbling up the court and waiting for a pick. I mean you can still be successful but as Dunn, Mudiay, and Payton show the margin of error is just that much smaller.

In Balls case his game doesn't really complement what teams will need moving forward and it all stems from his shot. You use him up the court teams are going to crowd him. Does he have the athleticism to beat them consistently off the dribble? Honestly no. You play him off the ball and you are going to lose his best attribute which is his court vision and passing. I think he'll be a good player and honestly the sixers could use him off the ball with Simmons. He's just not worth the 3rd overall pick with those limitations. He's probably for me in the third tier with Monk and DSJ. Behind Jackson and Fultz. And also behind Issac and Tatum.

[Spens1]

Wonder if the 76ers would sell us 36 + 39, they don't really need picks as it is.

Reason i'm saying this is because Frank Jackson and Caleb Swanigan apparently could be available around there. Both i think would fill in a need (Jackson if Clarkson goes and Swanigan offers us a small ball 5 that can shoot).

[xBlackMamba]

I am excited about seeing Wesley Iwundu tomorrow. I think he is a very undervalued player with a 7'1 Wingspan who can pick up guards of small forwards. A great defender that I would like if we pick up a 2nd rounder, or if he goes undrafted fill a summer league spot. I wouldn't even mind if we picked him up with 28.

[TyCobb]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246213/Lakers-Concerned-By-Lonzo-Balls-Conditioning



Yes, one of his best attributes. Next they will have an article about his horrible passing ability and terrible shot selection. His 2nd and 3rd best attributes.

I can't...

[Lakers24gm]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246213/Lakers-Concerned-By-Lonzo-Balls-Conditioning



Yes, one of his best attributes. Next they will have an article about his horrible passing ability and terrible shot selection. His 2nd and 3rd best attributes.

I can't...

Isn't conditioning one of the reasons Lakers didn't select Porzingis. They won't make that mistake again.

[MadNESS]

Although I think Ball COULD be the best player in the draft, I think Jackson WILL be the best player in this draft. I think we need to take Jackson, and I have all along. He's 6'8". There is no reason he can't play the two, and have huge wings with him and Ingram. If he develops a jumper, which a lot of guys with insane athletic ability struggle with when they are young (Lebron / Jordan / etc.) he could become a great player, ala Tmac as some have mentioned.

[Kilroy]

Three reasons why the Lakers will not draft Ball and go with Jackson or Fox.

1) He is the least athletic in terms of speed, quickness and strength pound for pound than any of the top five. Hence, his potential defensively at PG is limited. That is not what we need, especially if we are going to keep Russell at 2-guard.

2) He has no mid-range game primarily due to his slow crank it up from the hip set shot. Looks to me like he was a two-handed shooter for too long and never really adjusted. It'll take years for him to change that.

3) "The Lakers need a leader and I'm the one." Right, he's going to come in and show Russell/Randle/JC et al ... how it's done and lead them. His reality testing is not unlike his dad's, just more carefully wrapped.

Can't wait for June 22...

Although I'm not too worried about your first two reasons.

Your third reason is actually something people should pay attention to. Lonzo will definitely not be the leader his first year, the only way he will lead this team is if he actually is as good as Magic Johnson. And I do not see that happening. I believe he will struggle in his rookie year like Ingram, but not as bad. Lonzo is a raw prospect that could turn into something special. If I were to make the decision on who to draft for the second overall pick it would either be Jackson or Ball (can't decide; happy with either).

But no way in hell do I pick De'Aaron Fox (No disrespect to you)... To be honest I wouldn't pick him in my top 10.

Isn't that essentially the exact same thing Russell said? And keeps saying... This isn't Kobe or LeBron we're talking about it's essentially 3rd year Randle and Russell, and second year Ingram... We're clearly drafting him to be the leader of this team, if not in his first season, then he should make an impact immediately and come on strong in his second season.

No way is that a mark against him.

[Michael Lucky]

Meh seems like a lot of work bringing a player's stock down in order to keep any other team from drafting him. Especially when that other team has shown very little interest in ball and looks dead set on drafting the widely regarded better prospect in Fultz.


Maybe, just maybe the Lakers are not that into Ball and simply like Jackson more. This way they can control the narrative a little more before it is a sudden shock to the fans if Ball is passed over. Remember it is the media that immediately said Lonzo to the Lakers as soon as the lottery was concluded.

[MAMBAEMD]

I think it's Ball for the Lakers all the way.
He didn't work out for anyone else. Other teams have no idea what he's like other than college game tapes.
The Laker FO is trying to devalue him in everyone else's eyes.

I think they realize he's the type of player they need to lead this team, not just in the short term, but long term too.
He has great court vision, and has a pass first mindset.
He's 6'6" and would have a height advantage over most NBA PGs.

Jackson is a great player, with lots of potential. Very athletic, and long. He'll end up being a great wing.

I just think when you have a choice between a great play-maker vs an athletic wing, specially if you're the Lakers with need for on court leadership, you go for Ball.

[dockingsched]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246213/Lakers-Concerned-By-Lonzo-Balls-Conditioning



Yes, one of his best attributes. Next they will have an article about his horrible passing ability and terrible shot selection. His 2nd and 3rd best attributes.

I can't...

I don't know, it's one thing thing to leak that you're still unsure of who the pick is and that you're still looking at other instead. It's another to leak fabricated assertions openly questioning a player's work ethic/preparation that could a very real negative impact them. I have my doubts they'd go that far.